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BeFranklin
05-21-2009, 03:39 AM
Article on grand jury indictiments. The organization - American Grand Jury (see link below) - seems like it has a lot of links and information about the power of the grand jury. It is the power of the grand jury that is needed to be brought back into awareness so charges against corrupt government and others can start being filed again.

FYI - It isn't clear to me how all of these grand juries were convened. A "runaway" grand jury convened normally would be hard to ignore, with their presentments interspersed between other presentments and indictments. But how some states convene grand juries itself may need to be reformed. This is one of the areas on the local level, along with the others, that has been changed significantly over the last 100 years, and needs to go back to the way it use to be.


BORN IN THE USA?
Grand juries cite Obama for ineligibility, treason
Hundreds of 'presentments' being handed to prosecutors
Posted: May 21, 2009
By Bob Unruh

Hundreds of "presentments" – or accusations assembled by citizen grand juries – are scheduled to be given to courts, sheriffs, prosecutors, judges and legislators across the United States by July 4 alleging that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president of the United States and his occupancy in the Oval Office constitutes treason.

The accusations are being assembled by the citizen grand juries that have been meeting in recent weeks around the country, and one organization,
American Grandy Jury (http://americangrandjury.org/) now has posted an online procedure that provides a step-by-step instruction manual for those who are concerned about Obama.

American Grand Jury spokesman Bob Campbell's site includes information on the history of grand juries, their powers, rules, evidence, forms, etiquette and how to file the resulting claims.

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BeFranklin
05-21-2009, 04:01 PM
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Sandra
05-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Taitz is sending out these emails. She is claiming that anyone who wants "the usurper" taken out of office can sign up to be on a grand jury. Of course, an incitement to form a prejudiced grand jury is illegal. Orly Taitz knows this, but she thinks it's funny.

Njon
05-21-2009, 07:01 PM
Regardless of the legitimacy of these grand juries, there are at least two genuine things that could be done at the local level.

1. A governor or state attorney general could file suit on behalf of their state in federal court.

2. A state attorney general, county/district attorney or sheriff could open a criminal investigation.


I suggest that anyone who cares about this issue contact your governor and state attorney general, and use the sheriff e-mail list at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=1126 (ignore their instructions; just write your own letter) to contact sheriffs nation-wide.


1. Petition.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

2. Obama's own website admits that he held Kenyan citizenship under the British Nationality Act of 1948.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

3. Affidavit(s) attest that Obama's grandmother claims she was present at his Kenyan birth. Affidavit(s) also indicate that his birth in Mombosa is common knowledge amongst the Christian and Muslim communities of Kenya.
http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/PROJECTS/Obama/Evidence/AFFIDAVITexhibit2.pdf and http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/PROJECTS/Obama/Evidence/AFFIDAVIT-Bishop.pdf

4. Kenyan ambassador said Obama was born in Kenya; he later tried to retract, even though his retraction doesn't make sense given the context of his original statement.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82031

5. Obama attended school in Indonesia at a time when only Indonesian citizens could attend their schools (and they did not allow dual citizenship).
http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/PROJECTS/Obama/Evidence/SchoolRecordsIndonesia.pdf

6. Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 when it was illegal for U.S. citizens to enter that country. He must have gone on a foreign passport.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obamas-college.html

BeFranklin
05-21-2009, 07:27 PM
Taitz is sending out these emails. She is claiming that anyone who wants "the usurper" taken out of office can sign up to be on a grand jury. Of course, an incitement to form a prejudiced grand jury is illegal. Orly Taitz knows this, but she thinks it's funny.

a) The site linked above isn't from Taitz. Also, the article is from worldnetdaily. Don't get scared just because we're discovering our system has *really* been corrupted from what it used to be.

b) The grand jury system has been corrupted. It is completely different than it used to be. One of about five serious problems on the local level.

c) Actually, grand juries can be formed many different ways. It is certainly true that you don't need a DA (which didn't really exist predominately until the 1900s) to file indictments. Originally, this could have been done under private prosecution, the way our courts used to work. Also, anyone with charges could present them to the grand jury directly. As I understand it, its a presentment if they start the investigation themselves, but not only a DA has to bring charges.

I recommend that we start gathering information in one place on what the grand jury should be, before the 1900s. The linked site doesn't have everything - nothing about private prosection or why a grand jury can return *indictments* even without a da for instance, but it does have some useful information.

BeFranklin
05-21-2009, 07:36 PM
Cite has some whole books to download on grand juries. Just found it. I recognize the creator from years ago as a reasonable source.
http://www.constitution.org/jury/gj/gj-us.htm

Book on how DA's came into being over private prosecution.
http://cad.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/30/4/568