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ChooseLiberty
09-20-2007, 09:18 PM
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Mexican curriculum in Oregon schools stirs debate

11:05 AM PDT on Thursday, September 20, 2007

Associated Press

Some Oregon high schools are adopting Mexico's public school curriculum to help educate Spanish-speaking students with textbooks, an online Web site, DVDs and CDs provided free by Mexico to teach math, science and even U.S. history.

The Oregon Department of Education and Mexico's Secretariat of Public Education are discussing aligning their curricula so courses will be valid in both countries.

Similar ventures are under way in Yakima, Wash., San Diego, Calif., and Austin, Texas.

"Students come to us with such complex issues," said Tim King, director of Clackamas Middle College and Clackamas Web Academy, where a virtual course using Mexico's learning materials got started this week.

"We've had to change in order to fit into each school scene, become more complex and open ourselves up to new situations."

Oregon officials say the approach is intended as a supplement to keep students learning in Spanish while also gaining English skills.

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Until now, Oregon school districts generally have relied on bilingual aides or used Spanish material different from the English material others are studying.

"That's not enough," said Patrick Burk, chief policy officer with the superintendent's office of the Oregon Department of Education. He said the idea is minimal disruption for immigrant Latinos.

"The availability of resources is astounding," said Burk, who flew to Mexico with Oregon curriculum officials in August to discuss making equivalency standards official. "We're able to serve the students so much better if we're working together."

JosephTheLibertarian
09-20-2007, 10:37 PM
My debate is to just... defund public education lol. nah.. we should let states decide their own destinies in this regard. But really... just shows how America is falling apart. This is all to get us acquainted with our future, and our future happens to be with the NAU. It's all a global push for an eventual WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Lord Xar
09-21-2007, 01:04 AM
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Some Oregon schools adopting Mexican curriculum

09:02 AM PDT on Thursday, September 20, 2007

Associated Press

Some Oregon high schools are adopting Mexico's public school curriculum to help educate Spanish-speaking students with textbooks, an online Web site, DVDs and CDs provided free by Mexico to teach math, science and even U.S. history.

The Oregon Department of Education and Mexico's Secretariat of Public Education are discussing aligning their curricula so courses will be valid in both countries.

Similar ventures are under way in Yakima, Wash., San Diego, Calif., and Austin, Texas.

"Students come to us with such complex issues," said Tim King, director of Clackamas Middle College and Clackamas Web Academy, where a virtual course using Mexico's learning materials got started this week.

"We've had to change in order to fit into each school scene, become more complex and open ourselves up to new situations."

Oregon officials say the approach is intended as a supplement to keep students learning in Spanish while also gaining English skills.

Until now, Oregon school districts generally have relied on bilingual aides or used Spanish material different from the English material others are studying.

"That's not enough," said Patrick Burk, chief policy officer with the superintendent's office of the Oregon Department of Education. He said the idea is minimal disruption for immigrant Latinos.

"The availability of resources is astounding," said Burk, who flew to Mexico with Oregon curriculum officials in August to discuss making equivalency standards official. "We're able to serve the students so much better if we're working together."

Mexico has made its national curriculum available to communities across the U.S. since 2001 to encourage Mexican adults and youths to continue an education often abandoned back home due to limited resources.

"We wanted people to be aware that they have to study," said Patricia Ramos, the director of national affairs for Mexico's Institute for Adult Education and National Advisory of Education for Life and Work.

"You have to dare to study and make use of technology because that way, it will be easier to adapt to where you now live."

In other places, the curriculum was used to educate students' parents, rescue dropouts and even teach inmates. A program exists now at MacLaren Youth Correctional Facility in Woodburn.

The program caught the attention of public schools such as Reynolds High School in Troutdale and Marshall Night School, an alternative school based at Marshall High School in Portland.

At Marshall, the material has been used in night school and may soon move into daytime classrooms.

At Reynolds, educators began using part of Mexico's curriculum to teach a Spanish literacy class.

Students learned punctuation and sentence structure in Spanish and then saw improvement in English progress, said Dale Bernardini, a teacher who handles the partnership for Reynolds School District.

This fall, textbooks, DVDs and Mexico's curriculum Web were introduced in Francisco Rico's math classroom at Reynolds.

"We're just ahead with all the materials," he said. "We have the Web site where students can do exercises ... they can learn through visual and audio. We were having trouble bringing something that would be familiar to their culture."

In Washington state, nearly 30 schools have already implemented Mexico's curriculum into the classrooms.

In Oregon, learning materials are free, but districts must pay for staff. So far, two computer servers supporting Mexico's Web site cost the state about $10,000 to install and about $2,200 annually to maintain.

One of the biggest challenges will be finding more Spanish-speaking instructors, said Burk of the Oregon Department of Education.

He said about 15 percent of Oregon students are Latino, compared with 2 percent of teachers.

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as someone pointed out.... is it starting...

One of the provisions of the NAU IS CO-MINGLING OF EDUCATION BETWEEN THE 3 COUNTRIES.

thuja
09-21-2007, 01:13 AM
what a kind aand helpful country we have, making nice for our neighbors.

V-rod
09-21-2007, 01:43 AM
I am for tightening borders, but adding the Spanish curriculum makes sense.
A good number of young students can't speak English well, and if they can't master the language, they won't be able to understand, do horribly in school, and end up being uneducated by the time they reach their upper teens, and that will spell trouble.
Many German speaking immigrant children were taught in German and they were able to slowly incorporate learning and writing in English and could master both by the time they graduated.
If they can't deport the illegals back, might as well avoid future problems with having educated immigrants.

foofighter20x
09-21-2007, 02:32 AM
Wow... That's from my home county... Looks like I need to get to work when I get back home from active duty.

Lord Xar
09-21-2007, 02:51 AM
I am for tightening borders, but adding the Spanish curriculum makes sense.
A good number of young students can't speak English well, and if they can't master the language, they won't be able to understand, do horribly in school, and end up being uneducated by the time they reach their upper teens, and that will spell trouble.
Many German speaking immigrant children were taught in German and they were able to slowly incorporate learning and writing in English and could master both by the time they graduated.
If they can't deport the illegals back, might as well avoid future problems with having educated immigrants.

no, I disagree. Immersion is the best way to learn. Also, you have missed the point.. its not "bi-lingual" education as we have that all over much to the detriment of the students ( I use to be a teacher in LAUSD and what a travesty that is).. but besides.. you MISSED THE POINT. They are teaching MEXIXO's CURRICULUM. Not the USA's. Not about our history... there is only a certain amount time in the day.

So, your German reference was completely offbase as far as this topic is concerned.

And no, if you can't send them back you DO NOT SUBSIDIZE bad behaviour by rewarding it with free education and then massaging that education with mexicos' curriculum!!! This is the NAU, and it is horrible.

JosephTheLibertarian
09-21-2007, 03:13 AM
I am for tightening borders, but adding the Spanish curriculum makes sense.
A good number of young students can't speak English well, and if they can't master the language, they won't be able to understand, do horribly in school, and end up being uneducated by the time they reach their upper teens, and that will spell trouble.
Many German speaking immigrant children were taught in German and they were able to slowly incorporate learning and writing in English and could master both by the time they graduated.
If they can't deport the illegals back, might as well avoid future problems with having educated immigrants.

Why do we even have public education? They create this problem to begin with.