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Matt Collins
05-19-2009, 03:50 PM
If we follow historical trends, Huck or Romney will be the GOP nominee next time around. Why? Because the GOP nominees since Eisenhower have all run at least twice, exception being Bush (although he was a protege of his father).


Just an interesting, but sick, thought. So I guess we need to break the trend.

Objectivist
05-19-2009, 04:12 PM
If there is to be a change then the ideas have to follow. Every time an election comes around the Repubs get pinned with two issues that detract from more important agendas, and that is Abortion and Religion/Marriage. The Press hammers on those issues to find any inconsistencies in the candidates position. Both Romney and Huck will poster boys for the religious diatribes by the Press. Are these the most important issues facing the country? Nope, but the Press will make it so for Repubs.

torchbearer
05-19-2009, 04:20 PM
This country is going to last much longer.

Matt Collins
05-19-2009, 04:21 PM
If there is to be a change then the ideas have to follow. Every time an election comes around the Repubs get pinned with two issues that detract from more important agendas, and that is Abortion and Religion/Marriage. The Press hammers on those issues to find any inconsistencies in the candidates position. Both Romney and Huck will poster boys for the religious diatribes by the Press. Are these the most important issues facing the country? Nope, but the Press will make it so for Repubs.
Fortunately the religion / marriage and abortion issues tend to be taking a back burner currently because of the socialistic creep of our government which is no longer a creep and is quickly becoming a full-blown sprint. In other words the feeling is that the GOP is starting to focus on higher priority issues such as the budget, socialism, etc.

torchbearer
05-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Fortunately the religion / marriage and abortion issues tend to be taking a back burner currently because of the socialistic creep of our government which is no longer a creep and is quickly becoming a full-blown sprint. In other words the feeling is that the GOP is starting to focus on higher priority issues such as the budget, socialism, etc.

What are the people focused on?
republican voters have been feeding from the government trough too and are getting socialist in nature too.
They love their war and their government butter on their toast.
There are few that believe as we do... and things getting worse isn't really educating people.

jclay2
05-19-2009, 05:30 PM
If I had to bet on which one it would be, I would pick Romney. Honestly, huckleberry is to busy playing his guitar on Fox News.

Matt Collins
05-19-2009, 05:35 PM
If I had to bet on which one it would be, I would pick Romney. Honestly, huckleberry is to busy playing his guitar on Fox News.
Huckabee = lots of free air time.

ChaosControl
05-19-2009, 05:38 PM
If we follow historical trends, Huck or Romney will be the GOP nominee next time around. Why? Because the GOP nominees since Eisenhower have all run at least twice, exception being Bush (although he was a protege of his father).


Just an interesting, but sick, thought. So I guess we need to break the trend.

No, this means Ron Paul will be the nominee!

jclay2
05-19-2009, 05:38 PM
Huckabee = lots of free air time.

That is true. He could just be doing the fox gig to get his name out among republicans. Then a couple months before the election season hits, he would probably drop the show and start planning his presidential run.

Eric21ND
05-19-2009, 05:58 PM
Huckabee or Palin would destroy the party :)

anaconda
05-19-2009, 06:30 PM
If we follow historical trends, Huck or Romney will be the GOP nominee next time around. Why? Because the GOP nominees since Eisenhower have all run at least twice, exception being Bush (although he was a protege of his father).


Just an interesting, but sick, thought. So I guess we need to break the trend.

Neither can win unless they adopt essentially an RP platform. And they need to be damn convincing. In other words, it aint gonna happen. Neither can win. I am smelling change in the air. I am curious at Sanford's latest apparent positioning of himself. I think he senses change in the air also. And, don't laugh, but Sarah Palin may be able to help us, yet...

anaconda
05-19-2009, 06:36 PM
Huckabee or Palin would destroy the party :)

I think Palin is still a wild card. She may go rogue from the neocon dinosaurs and straight into a libertarian platform, with new and improved talking points. I look for her to emerge in about 24 months in more toward the Sanford camp, with a line in the sand drawn between their ideology and the useless can't win camp comprised of Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Mitt Romney, Michael Steele, Rush Limbaugh, and so forth. Just a possible prediction. Palin was very popular with the base that is ready to move from the center. RP may figure in here in some way. By 2012, RP might be a very popular VP pick for someone. I think, for example, that a Palin/Paul ticket might be very formidable.

nayjevin
05-19-2009, 06:38 PM
my prediction -- one of these groomed candidates will adopt the 'populist message' and the media will tout them as the economic savior. seems to me newt has the best base for such a scam (and he certainly does what the big boys want), but he is a flawed candidate. huckabee couldn't get away with that scam - he is a liberal. palin isn't smart enough for the ptb to trust.

Objectivist
05-19-2009, 06:39 PM
Fortunately the religion / marriage and abortion issues tend to be taking a back burner currently because of the socialistic creep of our government which is no longer a creep and is quickly becoming a full-blown sprint. In other words the feeling is that the GOP is starting to focus on higher priority issues such as the budget, socialism, etc.

That's part of the problem, focusing on socialism that is, they should be focusing on the positive aspects of Capitalism and disallow the other side the opportunity to counter. I'm sick and tired of watching these rubes go on about nothing, and not explaining the truth about how Capitalism works for everyone. Then maybe they themselves don't understand it? You may disagree with Milton Friedman but he does an exceptional job explaining how things work, that is what a political party needs to do... explain how it works, honestly. Stop focusing on the negatives of the other side and ask people if they know how to spend their own money or do they want someone else spending it for them. RP is one of the only politicians that has done that very thing but not everyone has the capacity to take it in the way he explains it, to you or I we get it. Now if we can educate the common man.....:cool:

nayjevin
05-19-2009, 06:41 PM
I think Palin is still a wild card. She may go rogue from the neocon dinosaurs and straight into a libertarian platform, with new and improved talking points. I look for her to emerge in about 24 months in more toward the Sanford camp, with a line in the sand drawn between their ideology and the useless can't win camp comprised of Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Mitt Romney, Michael Steele, Rush Limbaugh, and so forth. Just a possible prediction. Palin was very popular with the base that is ready to move from the center. RP may figure in here in some way. By 2012, RP might be a very popular VP pick for someone. I think, for example, that a Palin/Paul ticket might be very formidable.

Palin is diametrically opposed to Ron Paul - he'd never accept that. she partnered with john mccain lol

i can see her acting libertarian for political interests though, if that's the mission she's given, or fooled into taking.

nayjevin
05-19-2009, 06:43 PM
Sanford could be the scam candidate -- I can see that. I'd have to do some more research on him to know how he's been voting -- but if I recall it's pretty much lockstep with the other so called conservatives - loud mouthed on pork barrel projects, but voting for all the big expenditure evil under the radar stuff.