Sanford Candidate Nikki Haley for SC Governorin 2010

[dmatlm]

SC Campaign for Liberty has been very active supporting Nikki's attempts to bring more accountability to the SC legislature. And the RINOs and Good Ol' boys have tried to block her at every turn. Her top issues are on the record legislative voting, reducing state spending, and shining a light on the corruption in SC government.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=9002

Now Nikki's running for Governor and I'm thrilled. Governor Sanford even said "Nikki Haley is a true conservative and one of our state's leading voices for fiscal responsibility and government reform. It's too early to endorse anyone, but I would say Nikki Haley would make a terrific and inspiring choice as governor, and she's a great addition to the field of candidates."

So, my request is that you help me support Nikki by signing up at her website:

http://www.nikkihaley.com/volunteer

Or donate to her campaign:

https://co.clickandpledge.com/sp/d1/default.aspx?wid=27382

[Imperial]

Is Sanford running again?

[AJ Antimony]

^ Probably term limited

[RSLudlum]

Is Sanford running again?

No, he can't run due to term limits; only 2 consecutive 4yr. terms allowed.

[Imperial]

I added her to my list of liberty state reps and my chart of 2010 campaigns.

What office can sanford run for now? I don't think he will break his term limits for US congress and there is no open US senate seat.

[scandinaviany3]

I added her to my list of liberty state reps and my chart of 2010 campaigns.

What office can sanford run for now? I don't think he will break his term limits for US congress and there is no open US senate seat.

he will for sure be pushed to run for president against obama...

They dont have any candidate to pull all factions together at all in any way but him and the party knows it.

[go_carolina_528]

Nikki is a fan of the Campaign for Liberty and Free State Project on Facebook. We need to put a lot of our resources behind her in 2010.

[Njon]

he will for sure be pushed to run for president against obama...

They dont have any candidate to pull all factions together at all in any way but him and the party knows it.


I'd like to trust Gov. Sanford, but I can't; he went to Bilderberg in 2008.

YouTube - Mark Sanford Confronted on Bilderberg Attendance and Media Blackout 12-9-08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNtuFERbbPY)

[go_carolina_528]

I'd like to trust Gov. Sanford, but I can't; he went to Bilderberg in 2008.

YouTube - Mark Sanford Confronted on Bilderberg Attendance and Media Blackout 12-9-08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNtuFERbbPY)
Sanford is someone we should trust. I have personally met him and he is for making this country better, not tearing us down

[Njon]

Sanford is someone we should trust. I have personally met him and he is for making this country better, not tearing us down

That still doesn't explain Bilderberg.

[go_carolina_528]

Anyone interested in getting a moneybomb organized for Nikki?

[Gaius1981]

That still doesn't explain Bilderberg.

I guess the campaign will just have to do without the people whose faculties have been destroyed by Alex Jones. :)

[Njon]

I guess the campaign will just have to do without the people whose faculties have been destroyed by Alex Jones. :)

Dr. Paul appears on Alex Jones' show from time to time, mind you.

My 'faculties' aren't destroyed. I'm not the one ignoring the obvious. Global elites meeting behind closed doors is never a good thing.

[Nathan Hale]

That still doesn't explain Bilderberg.

Does his attendance at Bilderberg even require defending? If they asked me to go, I'd go.

What does his attendance at Bilderberg have to do with his moral standing?

[t0rnado]

Ron Paul meets with national elites in congress daily. Does that mean we shouldn't support him?

[Njon]

Ron Paul meets with national elites in congress daily. Does that mean we shouldn't support him?

That's faulty logic. There's a huge difference between carrying out Congressional duties and a bunch of global elites conducting non-necessary secret meetings on how they plan to affect our lives.

[Imperial]

If we do set up a money bomb for her, it needs to be in august rather than june or july where we already have plenty of moneybombs.

[Nathan Hale]

That's faulty logic. There's a huge difference between carrying out Congressional duties and a bunch of global elites conducting non-necessary secret meetings on how they plan to affect our lives.

Let's stick to the topic - how does Sanford accepting an invitation to attend somehow compromise his moral standing?

[go_carolina_528]

Let's stick to the topic - how does Sanford accepting an invitation to attend somehow compromise his moral standing?
The topic is actually supposed to be about Nikki Haley and not Sanford.

Does anyone wanna try to help get a moneybomb for Nikki?

[Nathan Hale]

The topic is actually supposed to be about Nikki Haley and not Sanford.

Does anyone wanna try to help get a moneybomb for Nikki?

I was referring to the topic of my initial interaction, not the topic of the thread. While I hate the idea of going off topic in general, I want to use this opportunity to challenge the opt-recited but misinformed belief that Mark Sanford's attendance at a Bilderberg meeting somehow disqualifies him as a liberty candidate.

[go_carolina_528]

I was referring to the topic of my initial interaction, not the topic of the thread. While I hate the idea of going off topic in general, I want to use this opportunity to challenge the opt-recited but misinformed belief that Mark Sanford's attendance at a Bilderberg meeting somehow disqualifies him as a liberty candidate.
Its fine. I'm a huge Sanford supporter and would love for you to take this guy on.

I just wanna start talking about Nikki again at some point.

[Elwar]

Does she support pre-emptively using an EMP against North Korea?

[Nathan Hale]

Does she support pre-emptively using an EMP against North Korea?

If I'm not mistaken it looks like North Korea was EMPed years ago.

NOTE: Just kidding, North Korea just looks EMPed becauuse it has little electrical capacity.

[JoshLowry]

If I'm not mistaken it looks like North Korea was EMPed years ago.

NOTE: Just kidding, North Korea just looks EMPed becauuse it has little electrical capacity.

He's refering to Sanford's vocal support in pre-emptive war.

NK wanted to test a missile and Sanford didn't seem to think they were a sovereign country. He suggested attacking them for simply testing their own defense systems.

[Nathan Hale]

He's refering to Sanford's vocal support in pre-emptive war.

NK wanted to test a missile and Sanford didn't seem to think they were a sovereign country. He suggested attacking them for simply testing their own defense systems.

Was he referring to a suggestion by Sanford that we use an EMP? Or a suggestion by Sanford that we otherwise attack? Please cite a reference, so we can have a conversation based on the facts of the case.

[Njon]

I was referring to the topic of my initial interaction, not the topic of the thread. While I hate the idea of going off topic in general, I want to use this opportunity to challenge the opt-recited but misinformed belief that Mark Sanford's attendance at a Bilderberg meeting somehow disqualifies him as a liberty candidate.

Bilderberg is a globalist organization that plans policy behind closed doors and undermines national sovereignty. It promotes centralization and increased global control. It's difficult to believe that someone could attend their meetings and walk out of there not knowing what it's all about.

Also: a post at http://www.dailypaul.com/node/88995 discusses Gov. Sanford's apparent endorsement of former Speaker Newt Gingrich's foreign policy. The video clip linked in that post in which Sanford talks about foreign policy (with Gingrich at his side) has since been removed.

[JoshLowry]

Was he referring to a suggestion by Sanford that we use an EMP? Or a suggestion by Sanford that we otherwise attack? Please cite a reference, so we can have a conversation based on the facts of the case.

Watch the first three or four minutes.

YouTube - Newt on North Korea, the GOP and faith on FOX News Sunday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-OxtV0utyE)

[Nathan Hale]

Bilderberg is a globalist organization that plans policy behind closed doors and undermines national sovereignty. It promotes centralization and increased global control. It's difficult to believe that someone could attend their meetings and walk out of there not knowing what it's all about.

This doesn't matter. If Bilderberg sent me an invite, I'd be there. Which of us would be stupid enough NOT to go? And perhaps we'd go and find out, as Sanford likely did, that Bilderberg isn't actually as nefarious as your hypothesis makes it out to be.


Also: a post at http://www.dailypaul.com/node/88995 discusses Gov. Sanford's apparent endorsement of former Speaker Newt Gingrich's foreign policy. The video clip linked in that post in which Sanford talks about foreign policy (with Gingrich at his side) has since been removed.

This is immaterial to the debate at hand. I don't recall endorsing Sanford in this thread. I'm here to talk strictly about the relevance of his Bilderberg attendance.

[Nathan Hale]

Watch the first three or four minutes.

YouTube - Newt on North Korea, the GOP and faith on FOX News Sunday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-OxtV0utyE)

There's no need. I'm not a Mark Sanford cheerleader. My opinion in this thread is related to his guilt by association to Bilderberg.

[scandinaviany3]

Watch the first three or four minutes.

YouTube - Newt on North Korea, the GOP and faith on FOX News Sunday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-OxtV0utyE)


I didnt hear any talk on emp use by sanford. The emp referrence by gingirch to emp attacks on us and how that would effect the grid. Well known fear put on the public.

There is talk on taking out the missile..but no shock to do that given the missile is traveling into japanese air space which we are partnering to protect by Treaty

North Korea is no Iraq/Afghanistan...very, very different situation.

If only the credibility of the govt with iraq and afghanistan wouldnt have been squandered then this could be handle correctly...i doubt it will...but just want to correct the words that emp is about the effect on us...not saying we attack via emp, doubt that is effective anyway given design of the rockets to protect from this.

[RCA]

First thing she needs to do is fix her website. Her first name is illegible even after I found out how to spell her name.

[james1906]

First thing she needs to do is fix her website. Her first name is illegible even after I found out how to spell her name.

Nikki Haley sounds (and looks) like a porn star name.

[JoshLowry]

I didnt hear any talk on emp use by sanford. The emp referrence by gingirch to emp attacks on us and how that would effect the grid. Well known fear put on the public.

There is talk on taking out the missile..but no shock to do that given the missile is traveling into japanese air space which we are partnering to protect by Treaty

North Korea is no Iraq/Afghanistan...very, very different situation.

If only the credibility of the govt with iraq and afghanistan wouldnt have been squandered then this could be handle correctly...i doubt it will...but just want to correct the words that emp is about the effect on us...not saying we attack via emp, doubt that is effective anyway given design of the rockets to protect from this.

I never said anything about an EMP, someone else just decided that's what he said without knowing what I was talking about.



He does talk about supporting preemptive war when other sovereign countries test out their military equipment.

That's shitty foreign policy for the USA.

[Nathan Hale]

He does talk about supporting preemptive war when other sovereign countries test out their military equipment.

That's shitty foreign policy for the USA.

Gingrich does, or Sanford does?

[JoshLowry]

Gingrich does, or Sanford does?

Are you really not going to watch the video that I provided you with after you asked for it?

:mad:

Sanford does.

[Nathan Hale]

Are you really not going to watch the video that I provided you with after you asked for it?

:mad:

Sanford does.

You're right, I'm not. I realized after I posted my off-topic post that I was veering from my course here. Im not here to debate Sanford's viability as a candidate in general, but thank you for taking the time to post it. I'm here to address specifically the idea that Sanford's attendance at Bilderberg is somehow anathema.

[scandinaviany3]

I never said anything about an EMP, someone else just decided that's what he said without knowing what I was talking about.



He does talk about supporting preemptive war when other sovereign countries test out their military equipment.

That's shitty foreign policy for the USA.

In general as i said this is north korea...shooting missiles over foreign countries

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-05-voa2.cfm


is a std act of war and major no..no..one should expect them to be shot down...no questions asked by the rest of the world and japans allies. That is a best case ...we are very ,very lucky things didnt already go crazy

But in general God help us all with all of these crazies...

[Njon]

This doesn't matter. If Bilderberg sent me an invite, I'd be there. Which of us would be stupid enough NOT to go?

Obviously Bilderberg would not invite any of us, so that's a moot point. They only invite people with a lot of influence who they think will go along with their plans. And if Gov. Sanford did not agree with the Bilderberg globalist agenda, why didn't he just say that, instead of making it sound like Bilderberg is no big deal?

For example, I recall listening to an interview not long ago --- I think it was Jim Tucker on Alex Jones' show --- and it was pointed out that Margaret Thatcher once did just that; she recognized the problems with Bilderberg, and she got out of there.


Jim took me to the Men's Bar upstairs. We drank beers and watched sport on the TV above the bar. Framed front pages of big news stories of days gone by lined the walls. "War in the Persian Gulf!" "Thatcher Resigns!" Jim said that both acts were orchestrated by Bilderberg. "Margaret Thatcher is one of the good guys," said Jim. "Bilderberg ordered her to dismantle British sovereignty, but she said no way, so they had her sacked."
Big Jim said he once found himself at a drinks party with Thatcher and he took the opportunity to sidle up to her. "How does it feel to have been denounced by those Bilderberg boys, ma'am?" he growled. She whispered back that she considered it a "great tribute to be denounced by Bilderberg".

The above was taken from http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/10/features.weekend
See quote header for citation.


And perhaps we'd go and find out, as Sanford likely did, that Bilderberg isn't actually as nefarious as your hypothesis makes it out to be.

That's simply speculation, whereas there is plenty of evidence that the Bilderberg agenda is globalist. Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, perhaps you should consider the kind of information that comes from his contacts who track Bilderberg (like Tucker).

[Nathan Hale]

Obviously Bilderberg would not invite any of us, so that's a moot point. They only invite people with a lot of influence who they think will go along with their plans.

I doubt you know the criteria behind Bilderberg invitations.


And if Gov. Sanford did not agree with the Bilderberg globalist agenda, why didn't he just say that, instead of making it sound like Bilderberg is no big deal?

Because maybe, just maybe, Bilderberg is no big deal.


For example, I recall listening to an interview not long ago --- I think it was Jim Tucker on Alex Jones' show --- and it was pointed out that Margaret Thatcher once did just that; she recognized the problems with Bilderberg, and she got out of there.

According to the word of Jim Tucker, Thatcher only abandoned Bilderberg because Tucker claims that "they" were trying to pressure her into dismantling the British monarchy.


That's simply speculation,

ALL of this is speculation.


whereas there is plenty of evidence that the Bilderberg agenda is globalist.

I'd love to see it. Could you please link to a plurality accepted/accedited source that shows the Bilderberg agenda to be globalist?


Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, perhaps you should consider the kind of information that comes from his contacts who track Bilderberg (like Tucker).

I do consider that information, and I acknowledge that his contacts are driven by their biases as well. I'm not here to decry attempts to paint Bilderberg in a bad light, it could very well be an evil organization with designs on world takeover, but it's premature to slam some guy for attending, especially considering how little we know of the organization.

[go_carolina_528]

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - The 2010 race for governor more than a year away, but candidates already raising the money to run.

State Sen. Vincent Sheheen says he's already raised more than $500,000 for his gubernatorial campaign.

Sheheen says he's encouraged by the contributions.

"As I have traveled our state in recent months talking to our citizens, I have become excited by how many share the vision of a South Carolina with the best public schools, a thriving economy, and a state government that works for all its citizens."

State Rep. Nikki Haley says she's seen no substantial effect in fundraising for GOP governors race from the scandal surrounding Gov. Mark Sanford.

Haley said Thursday she'll report raising more than $211,000 in her first campaign finance report to win the 2010 nomination to replace term-limited Sanford. The governor has been a key ally of for Haley as he pushes what she calls a reform agenda in the Legislature.

Haley announced for governor on May 14. That's more than a month before Sanford disappeared for nearly a week before re-emerging to confess an affair with a woman in Argentina.

Haley removed Sanford's picture from her campaign Web site. She said that would have happened anyway because she didn't want Sanford to have that much prominence on the site.
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10671045

A great fundraising start to her campaign. Raised about 211,000 in 5 weeks while Sheheen was the first candidate to announce and his 500,000 is from 2 quarters worth of fundraising.

[go_carolina_528]

YouTube - Rep Nikki Haley Addresses Independence Day Crowd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBKwCDujyY)

[go_carolina_528]

Eric Erickson wrote this great piece on Nikki on RedState. com

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/02/libertarians-and-conservatives-should-rally-around-nikki-haley/

I’ve meant, for a while, to comment on Stephen Gordon’s post from back in May about the GOP needing libertarians more than libertarians needs the GOP.

I think he has some merit to his argument, but I would say that libertarians and conservatives both need the GOP and need each other. They are not always going to agree. There will be fights over the drug war, marriage, etc. But at the end of the day, both conservatives and libertarians are, or at least must be, committed to smaller government.

I bring this up to point out Nikki Haley. She’s unapologetically pro-life, but she is first and foremost known as a fiscal conservative. She is the type of candidate conservatives claim they want. She is also the type of candidate libertarians claim to want.

While she won’t please everyone — the only candidate who ever tried is now in the White House making everyone mad — she gets checks in all the major boxes: life, tax cutting, government cutting, honesty, and uncompromising on the need to reform.

She has said about her own candidacy,

I am going to stand as an example of a minority female who understands what it means to be pro-business, who understands that government should be small, who understands we don’t need government intrusion, that you need to be able to make strong, smart decisions for yourself

All the candidates at the RedState Gathering talked about the need for the GOP to re-embrace fiscal conservatism as a path back to the majority. Nikki Haley went so far as to say that without losing, the GOP would have never learned. The GOP needs to “learn through the burn” of defeat what it takes to govern, she told us.

She is not afraid, even as an elected official, to criticize her own party for losing its way. That’s the type of candidate the Republicans need.

And Nikki Haley puts her votes where her mouth is. Republicans in South Carolina punished her for daring to push for fiscal restraint and transparency in the state legislature by yanking a prime committee position in the State House, but she kept on pushing till she won. She got her start in state politics by challenging and beating the longest serving state representative in South Carolina — and she did it in a Republican primary.

Nikki Haley is not afraid to challenge the establishment Republican Party. She is not afraid to set standards for the party and expect those around her, and herself, to live up to them.

Let me be blunt: if conservatives and libertarians cannot unite behind Nikki Haley and get her onto the national stage as a fresh face for both Republicans and small government, we might as well call it day.

The GOP needs Nikki Haley in the South Carolina Governor’s Mansion. The grand coalition that last put the GOP in power needs someone of Nikki Haley’s integrity and spine to get us back both on the path of small government and back into a position to lead the nation.Nikki Haley

Join me in supporting Nikki Haley for South Carolina Governor. Besides, unlike some of her GOP primary opponents, Nikki Haley has never supported nor would she ever support reckless fiscal legislation that would cause her to be deservedly booed at tea party.