Anita Andrews in Maine

[Jared Callanan]

Review of Anita Andrews in Maine

I have been meaning to post this message but I have been so busy with work, piano lessons, school, and doing the grassroots for Ron Paul thing that this message was pushed back until tonight. Let me state immediately that I signed the waiver and do not plan on releasing any information regarding the strategy that she put forward so tune out now if you are sick of these Anita Andrews posting where the secret information isn’t released.

I am 26 but consider myself to be somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to campaigns and campaign strategy. I have worked in state elections for state officers, state primaries for national candidates, national headquarters for past presidential candidates, and have done internships for a now retired senator. I went to this meeting not expecting to learn anything, I went to this meeting for two reasons; A. I wanted to see what all the fuss was about with this disclaimer and B. I wanted and want to be apart of anything in Maine or New Hampshire that can help Ron Paul become president.

Within five minutes of the the start of this meeting up in Yarmouth Maine I was blown away with the stuff that Anita was showing us. I walked into the meeting slightly deflated after talking to some of the supporters in New Hampshire on Sunday and walked out ignited and motivated and ready to help with Maine for Ron Paul.

I can’t stress enough how important this meeting was. I know some people have a problem with signing the disclaimer but all this document is is a way so the Paul for President campaign strategy doesn’t get in the hands of another campaign... So that we aren’t campaigning against our own strategy and thus not making up any ground. The people who are against signing this disclaimer should really rethink this and do what is best for the campaign and that is going and listening to Anita.

One way or the other, find a way to get her to your state because her plan will win this election for us.

- Jared Callanan

[james1844]

Great, can she come down to DC?

[gagnonstudio]

Which Maine meetup group are you in? The one I'm in is terrible. I'm way up north in Washburn (Presque Isle area).

[ctb619]

Nothing against Maine, but who is coming up with this lady's itinerary?

[Shink]

Since it's 'secret' and will certainly never come to my corner of Iowa, I just can't help but smell BS. If it's a DELEGATES plan of attack, I'd consider it worthwhile...but still not understand the 'need' for secrecy. Since it'll never get to so many of us, I have trouble beleiving that it's a winning strategy.

[ross11988]

Yea as the organzier of the Pocono meetup I was suppose to go, but Im in college and I have classes so I didnt get a chance to go, but my buddy went, so hopefully it will be as good as everyone is saying

[gagnonstudio]

Nothing against Maine, but who is coming up with this lady's itinerary?

Maine is a pretty early primary (Feb 2nd), and she probably swung up after NH? I would hope she hit NH.

[Jared Callanan]

ctb,

We asked her the same thing... In fact, going into the meeting I was a little upset that she was in Maine rather than New Hampshire. She said that someone higher up in the campaign had told her on short notice that she needed to go to Maine asap. After hearing her strategy I now know why she wasn't in New Hampshire. If you take a look at a schedule of primaries / caucuses this is what you will see:

As of September 4th here is the Primary / Caucus Schedule:

January:
5th: Wyoming Caucus
14th: Iowa Caucus
15th: Michigan Primary
19th Nevada Caucus
22nd: New Hampshire Primary
29th: Florida and South Carolina Primary

February 2nd: MAINE Caucus

Maine to you might not make sense. However, Wyoming, Michigan, Nevada, and Florida are all not being taken seriously the Democrats have always said they are going to strip the delegates away from the states and most of the top tiered Republicans say they wont campaign there. Therefore Maine is the fourth big test of the presidential primary season. Another thing Maine has going for it is that its a caucus state which should fair well for our grassroots organization. Maine is also a heavily pro second amendment state and yet heavily against the war. I really think Maine is a state where Ron Paul could do good, its also a state that could save our campaign if we don't fair well in IA, NH, or SC.

- Jared

[ItsTime]

Nothing against Maine, but who is coming up with this lady's itinerary?

You have to look at it from all directions. Yarmouth is a very rich area surrounded by other rich areas. Her being there may have raised a lot of money and got people to call in favors to raise even more money. Maybe that is why she was there? Who knows!

[ctb619]

that answers my question, thanks for the response

[Stealth4]

Great, can she come down to DC?

Already did - near woodbridge.

[Jared Callanan]

Shink,

I have never heard of a campaign holding a press conference to release their strategy to the media and other campaigns. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a campaign strategy? I guess if your a sports fan it would sort of be like the Patriots calling the Bills the Saturday before their game and telling them their game strategy.. I don't see how this is hard to answer. And from what I have heard Anita has been to Iowa to I am hoping her strategy is being implemented as we speak. I know you believe that a select few of us from around the country have gotten together to tout this womans; that no one has ever heard of - strategy just for shits and grins but believe it or not she really does have good things to say.

[ItsTime]

PS Many of my friends live in Maine and say that there is a very large Ron Paul movement there. Keep up the good work Mainers!

[aksmith]

ctb,

We asked her the same thing... In fact, going into the meeting I was a little upset that she was in Maine rather than New Hampshire. She said that someone higher up in the campaign had told her on short notice that she needed to go to Maine asap. After hearing her strategy I now know why she wasn't in New Hampshire. If you take a look at a schedule of primaries / caucuses this is what you will see:

As of September 4th here is the Primary / Caucus Schedule:

January:
5th: Wyoming Caucus
14th: Iowa Caucus
15th: Michigan Primary
19th Nevada Caucus
22nd: New Hampshire Primary
29th: Florida and South Carolina Primary

February 2nd: MAINE Caucus

Maine to you might not make sense. However, Wyoming, Michigan, Nevada, and Florida are all not being taken seriously the Democrats have always said they are going to strip the delegates away from the states and most of the top tiered Republicans say they wont campaign there. Therefore Maine is the fourth big test of the presidential primary season. Another thing Maine has going for it is that its a caucus state which should fair well for our grassroots organization. Maine is also a heavily pro second amendment state and yet heavily against the war. I really think Maine is a state where Ron Paul could do good, its also a state that could save our campaign if we don't fair well in IA, NH, or SC.

- Jared

Nevada is not having any delegates stripped by the Republican party. And it is in play. And it's a new caucus, so the party is having a hard time getting a grasp on the rules. I wouldn't give up on Nevada so quickly.

[gagnonstudio]

PS Many of my friends live in Maine and say that there is a very large Ron Paul movement there. Keep up the good work Mainers!

It must be all in the South, because up here in the North it is really hard to get the word out. But as long as Central and Southern Maine have a large movement, that's all that matters, because they have the population. We have about 20 people in Aroostook county, and they're all 65 year old democrats.

[ItsTime]

It must be all in the South, because up here in the North it is really hard to get the word out. But as long as Central and Southern Maine have a large movement, that's all that matters, because they have the population. We have about 20 people in Aroostook county, and they're all 65 year old democrats.

Yup Portland and surrounding areas. It makes me wonder why the straw poll is in Bangor?

[lynnf]

Since it's 'secret' and will certainly never come to my corner of Iowa, I just can't help but smell BS. If it's a DELEGATES plan of attack, I'd consider it worthwhile...but still not understand the 'need' for secrecy. Since it'll never get to so many of us, I have trouble beleiving that it's a winning strategy.


It might be that not everyone has to get trained, maybe a few leaders can run the strategy and if we all fulfill our purpose, bada boom - a win for Dr. Paul.

lynn

[Jared Callanan]

I am not ruling out Nevada, in fact I have suggested in this forum in the past that the campaign might want to put more of their focus on Nevada rather than Iowa. However, most of the top tiered Republicans are not taking the caucus seriously and I doubt it will have much of an impact unless a smaller tiered candidate like Ron Paul was to win it. Power to the Ron Paul campaign if they decide they want to go after Nevada.

[Jared Callanan]

It seems to have been a good turn out for the Anita Andrews event. I traveled over an hour to get to it and we have a follow up meeting without her on Monday. Gotta get the ball rolling and everyone seemed motivated off of the meeting with Anita.

[dircha]

If another campaign were seriously interested in Ms. Andrews' strategy, it would simply, off the books, arrange for someone to attend one of the sessions, sign the NDA, and disclose any presented materials to a campaign staffer.

Let's not be silly. While an NDA provides some legal recourse in visible, clear-cut cases of disclosure of proprietary information, it provides no real information security, particularly in the context of national political campaign volunteers.

In this context it serves primarily to intimidate (by threat of legal force) and control (by extension of "privileged" information) impressionable volunteers.

I'm pleased to see the campaign working to give direction to inexperienced grassroots volunteers, but as many have noted, the manner in which it is being pursued through this consultant is divisive and condescending.

[Jared Callanan]

bump

[toowm]

So what was disappointing about NH on Sunday? The turnout at the Manchester GOP straw poll? The people you met?

[leipo]

Since it's 'secret' and will certainly never come to my corner of Iowa, I just can't help but smell BS. If it's a DELEGATES plan of attack, I'd consider it worthwhile...but still not understand the 'need' for secrecy. Since it'll never get to so many of us, I have trouble beleiving that it's a winning strategy.

I have to agree with this. Plus the fact that any campaign with a decent amount of funds already knows what the strategy is. If you don't think there is any infiltration/spying done with presidential campaigns then you are too naive, IMO.

[ross11988]

I have to agree with this. Plus the fact that any campaign with a decent amount of funds already knows what the strategy is. If you don't think there is any infiltration/spying done with presidential campaigns then you are too naive, IMO.

Yes I bet that the meetings were infiltrated

[Ozwest]

dircha, Why the agro? Ron Paul supporters understand better than most, there are no Political prisoners. From what I've observed, the response from these meetings has been positive. We're the Good Guys.

[Ozwest]

Maybe meetings were infiltrated. The idea is to limit the espionage for the next several months. Doesn't that make sense?

[leipo]

Maybe meetings were infiltrated. The idea is to limit the espionage for the next several months. Doesn't that make sense?

Sure it does. As long as you dont limit your ideals which seems to be the motto of Anita.

[silverhandorder]

Plus please don't attack Anita untill you were at one of the meetings. If you have never went then find a person that can train you.

[Ozwest]

leipo, In case you haven't noticed, every weapon available to the elitist structure is now aimed at Ron Paul and his campaign. We are Idealistic. We are not Bunnies.

[Spirit of '76]

As long as you dont limit your ideals which seems to be the motto of Anita.

She never suggested any such thing in the five and a half hours she spent with us. On what are basing this?

[specsaregood]

She never suggested any such thing in the five and a half hours she spent with us. On what are basing this?

Obviously based on uninformed conjecture. Nobody is forcing anybody to use the strategy laid out by Mrs. Andrews. But since the campaign thinks it is a good idea, my meetup group is running with it full-throttle.

[ItsTime]

is she coming to NH or did I miss it?

[Spirit of '76]

Obviously based on uninformed conjecture. Nobody is forcing anybody to use the strategy laid out by Mrs. Andrews. But since the campaign thinks it is a good idea, my meetup group is running with it full-throttle.

Even then, I didn't hear anything in her strategy that would suggest anyone should compromise their ideals, did you?

[ronpaulitician]

Even then, I didn't hear anything in her strategy that would suggest anyone should compromise their ideals, did you?
But I heard someone say that his friend, who knows the cousin of someone who may have attended one of Anita's training sessions...

[Spirit of '76]

lol

[specsaregood]

Even then, I didn't hear anything in her strategy that would suggest anyone should compromise their ideals, did you?

Oh, definitely not. I didn't mean to make it sound like that either. The poster in question is quite simply: uninformed.

[Jared Callanan]

People are going to butt heads in this campaign a lot and the reason for this is a great reason; Ron Paul is pulling supporters from all sides of the spectrum. I can see how some would say that Anita Andrews wants to tone down our rhetoric but for one reason only; for the good of Ron Paul. I think we need to let everyone know that their is a home for them in the Ron Paul campaign but at the same time we need to pick and choose what issues we speak on and how we make Ron Paul look. A good example of this is the anti-war marches, there is a very fine line on these marches because you have a lot of socialists and communists in these marches, we as Ron Paul supporters shouldn't want to be seen with our gear and signs next to people holding communist flags, this does nothing except hurts our cause. 9/11 truthers, I don't agree with them but they seem attracted to the candidacy of Paul because he wants open government, but should we start appearing at 9/11 truther rallys? No.. It hurts Ron Paul's cause.

Right now we are in a battle for the Republican Party nomination. By definition Ron Paul is a libertarian, however, I never call him a libertarian because most Republicans roll their eyes and think he is a member of the fringe Libertarian Party when you say it. Instead of calling him a libertarian I call him a constitutionalist which comes off much better. It's the small things like this we need to do to help Ron Paul become President.

One of my main issues is the elimination of the federal reserve, as a hypothetical; if the campaign came up to me and asked me to stop speaking about this because it was hurting his candidacy I would do it in a second. Why? Because the first step towards making this country better is getting Ron Paul elected and if I have to tone down my rhetoric to do so than its a small sacrafice that every ron paul supporter should be willing to make for the sake of our country.