View Full Version : My application letter to my local GOP, about my running.
Mosheh Thezion
05-18-2009, 02:45 AM
I sent this... Monday morning... about 1 am, and I will visit them, sometime this week, whether they respond or not.
I hope to garnish some support from them, but if not, I will pursue the next options.
oh yes... im running... I maybe a scum bag... an ex drug addict, an ex tobacco addict, and guilty of numerious petty crimes under statute law, but, I will run anyway, and my platform is simple... "dont vote for me, because I am worthy, but because i am honest, and you can know what I stand for with my established huge platform...(yet to be published,) based on restoring the constitution!!!!
one thing at a time.
if any of you.. want to help...
send a message to...
the GOP.. HEAD QUATERS...
1903 W. Magnolia Blvd
Burbank, CA 91506
818.841.5210
818.841.6668 fax
STRANGLY enough.. they do not offer an email address... sorry.
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but there is... for the national committee,
Office of the Chairman
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Email: Chairman@gop.com
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Email: coalitions@gop.com
So... any email... you choose to send... or fax... would help greatly..
thanks... in advance.
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Hello,
My name, is 'Luis Edwardo Correa', Burbank, 91505
And I can be found online as 'Mosheh Thezion'
I plan on running for congress in 2010, and the presidency in 2012, and I seek to run on the Republican ticket, but I must know if you all will help me do so.
I would be running on a simple platform, with many details, such as the actual restoration of the constitution as law once again, and the repeal of the NEW DEAL of 1933,.. which robbed all Americans of freedom, and replaced it with civil liberties, which is a sham.
I have long detailed solution plans, to propose, and have such a big mouth that I can make serious waves.
If I cannot run as a Republican, I may run, as an independant, but such is not my wish, as my views are most like the views of the republican party, and I would wish to join you all.
My background is full of sin, small crimes, and tickets and offences, to be sure, and I make no claim of perfection, but I am an excellent speaker, good looking, and have well established plans which would be the polar opposite of the Democratic tax and spend policies, and in truth I fit mostly with the Ron Paul crowd, and would be able to galvinize most of them, and yet, by my plans of action, there would be no threat to the established World Bank and IMF power structure, and all can be made to fit harmoniously, as one big effort, towards a freer world, with a Republican government, based on constitutional princicples and laws concerning freedom.
I ask to join with you, to help you, by getting you to help me, as I know I have much to offer.
Luis E. Correa
born as 'Fabio Edwardo Correa' ON MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Called... Mosheh Thezion
And known world wide as 'Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al-faraj Thezion'.
Founder of........> http://empiricalchurch.org/
Developer of......> http://empiricalchurch.org/theory/
And developer of.....> http://ecclesiaorworldfed.blogspot.com/
(So know... im not kidding... when I say I have detailed solution plans to the many entrenched problems of our nation.!)
If you... do not want me.. please say so, and I will move on to the next party on my list, but, such will not please me.
Please... at the very least do not ignore me, because I live in Burbank, and will visit you this week. So please, consider this seriously, as I am very serious.
-MEMAT
Elwar
05-18-2009, 10:37 AM
Ok, I'm sure you're passionate and all but from the looks of things I'm betting that they tell you, or perhaps encourage you, to run as an independent.
Running on the platform of "A big sham happened 76 years ago, and I have the documented proof to prove it!" is not that great of a platform to get elected.
People live in the here and now. Sure, a lot of crap has happened and we all know that politicians have sold out our Constitution. But people look at the little things like, will Social Security benefits go up, will my taxes stay the same or change a little. Seriously, 99% of the voting public does not care about the NEW DEAL of 1933...you cannot spend your whole campaign trying to play educator to a mass of people who already have billions spent on them to help them choose the next potato chip that they buy.
It reminds me of a guy who spent days/weeks/years non stop trying to convince people that the country was founded by Masons. So...even if I accept the fact that the country was founded by masons...what does that matter to me now? Does that mean we scrap everything that's happened in the past 230 years? Start over with no Masons?
Scream about it until you're blue in the face. Even if you lay out all of the facts...the biggest fact is evading you...people just don't care about that stuff.
Do you have a cuter dog than your opponent? That is more important than the New Deal.
cheapseats
05-18-2009, 11:59 AM
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Hello,
My name, is 'Luis Edwardo Correa', Burbank, 91505
And I can be found online as 'Mosheh Thezion'
I plan on running for congress in 2010, and the presidency in 2012, and I seek to run on the Republican ticket, but I must know if you all will help me do so.
I would be running on a simple platform, with many details, such as the actual restoration of the constitution as law once again, and the repeal of the NEW DEAL of 1933,.. which robbed all Americans of freedom, and replaced it with civil liberties, which is a sham.
I have long detailed solution plans, to propose, and have such a big mouth that I can make serious waves.
If I cannot run as a Republican, I may run, as an independant, but such is not my wish, as my views are most like the views of the republican party, and I would wish to join you all.
My background is full of sin, small crimes, and tickets and offences, to be sure, and I make no claim of perfection, but I am an excellent speaker, good looking, and have well established plans which would be the polar opposite of the Democratic tax and spend policies, and in truth I fit mostly with the Ron Paul crowd, and would be able to galvinize most of them, and yet, by my plans of action, there would be no threat to the established World Bank and IMF power structure, and all can be made to fit harmoniously, as one big effort, towards a freer world, with a Republican government, based on constitutional princicples and laws concerning freedom.
I ask to join with you, to help you, by getting you to help me, as I know I have much to offer.
Luis E. Correa
born as 'Fabio Edwardo Correa' ON MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Called... Mosheh Thezion
And known world wide as 'Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al-faraj Thezion'.
Founder of........> http://empiricalchurch.org/
Developer of......> http://empiricalchurch.org/theory/
And developer of.....> http://ecclesiaorworldfed.blogspot.com/
(So know... im not kidding... when I say I have detailed solution plans to the many entrenched problems of our nation.!)
If you... do not want me.. please say so, and I will move on to the next party on my list, but, such will not please me.
Please... at the very least do not ignore me, because I live in Burbank, and will visit you this week. So please, consider this seriously, as I am very serious.
-MEMAT
Up to now, several of your posts had inclined me to inquire whether you go by and/or answer to Environment Man and/or E-Man.
Your name IS or your name is NOT Luis Edwardo Correa -- why the single quotes?
There's a lotta conceptual real estate between Luis Edwardo Correa and Mosheh Thezion." If you're thinkin' about running for office, I'm thinkin' you wouldn't want to provoke or antagonize, so what gives with the screen name?
brandon
05-18-2009, 12:18 PM
MEMAT,
What I'm about to say might be offensive, but it is the truth. Your writing skill is on par with a 12 year old. You lack any understanding of basic grammar, sentence structure, or paragraph structure. You say the wrong things. If you do not improve your writing ability, no one will ever take you seriously and you will not go anywhere.
I mean, you put your freaking name in single quotes. WTF is that man? And you list your online forum handle in an email to a non-internet entity? What is going through your head? And immediately after you state your views are most like the republican party, our of no where and for no apparent reason you say "My background is full of sin, small crimes, and tickets and offences, to be sure," Yea man...that's really going to win people over.
Sincerely,
'Brandon Yates'
Mosheh Thezion
05-19-2009, 12:40 AM
ALL GOOD ADIVCE, thank you... but know... I maybe a moron.
i maybe a fool.
but you know what i stand for, and I would work for it.
if you have a problem with what i stand for. say so...
if you have a problem with my grammer.. understand i can fix it, by buying microsoft office for 100 dollars.... so.
-MEMAT
cheapseats
05-19-2009, 04:14 PM
ALL GOOD ADIVCE, thank you... but know... I maybe a moron.
i maybe a fool.
-MEMAT
I have more than once heard you say i.e. read words you have typed that are self-deprecating unto caricature.
Mind, I speak for me. My impression of over-the-top self-deprecation deteriorates very quickly from disingenuous to coy to irritating to suspicious.
brandon
05-19-2009, 04:16 PM
lol Why did MEMAT get banned?
torchbearer
05-19-2009, 04:19 PM
lol Why did MEMAT get banned?
I don't know.
Does it matter?
DO you think it is possible that people are banned just because around here?
Do you think there are good reasons to ban people?
Do you think the people who make those decisions are incompetent?
So many questions, so little time.
I get depressed every time I watch C-Span. The people who call in are a section of our electorate, and they are fucking stupid.
Much more important things to worry about than forum bans.
I need to make a vent thread. The level of ignorance I have encountered this week is tremendous.
brandon
05-19-2009, 04:21 PM
Yes it does matter. It's a very pressing issue.
torchbearer
05-19-2009, 04:23 PM
Yes it does matter. It's a very pressing issue.
Then a PM to josh or bryan would be a more efficient way to get that pressing info.
:D
cheapseats
05-19-2009, 04:25 PM
...if you have a problem with my grammer.. understand i can fix it, by buying microsoft office for 100 dollars.... so.
-MEMAT
Yep.
Are my gullible countrymen laboring under the impression that politicians and executives and judges and other Ruling Elite compose their own material?
Jon Favreau is the wunderkind behind Barack Obama's linguistic flourishes, by way of example.
I will argue that Big Law is excessively responsible for the uber crafted communication and legislation put forth by the Ruling Elite. Lawyers beget a need for themselves.
cheapseats
05-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Up to now, several of your posts had inclined me to inquire whether you go by and/or answer to Environment Man and/or E-Man.
Your name IS or your name is NOT Luis Edwardo Correa -- why the single quotes?
There's a lotta conceptual real estate between Luis Edwardo Correa and Mosheh Thezion." If you're thinkin' about running for office, I'm thinkin' you wouldn't want to provoke or antagonize, so what gives with the screen name?
ALL GOOD ADIVCE, thank you...
but you know what i stand for, and I would work for it.
if you have a problem with what i stand for. say so...
The previous post re: self-deprecation? Therein lies advice.
I asked questions, which you pointedly did not answer.
I therefore ask them again, as posed above.
I do NOT know where you stand -- 'cept on that Emergency Powers business, I'm wide screen on that.
Here's an idea.
Without sending me to another site or directing me to read someone else's work, sum up the Top Ten on your To Do list. Insofar as God Himself doesn't have bragging rights on the steadfast accomplishment of a To Do list of ten, I can't think that anyone running for office needs to concoct a platform with more planks than that.
I invite other candidates and political aspirants to do the same.
Dr.3D
05-19-2009, 06:24 PM
lol Why did MEMAT get banned?
May have had something to do with this thread.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2130005#post2130005
Mosheh Thezion
05-21-2009, 05:32 PM
Up to now, several of your posts had inclined me to inquire whether you go by and/or answer to Environment Man and/or E-Man.
Your name IS or your name is NOT Luis Edwardo Correa -- why the single quotes?
There's a lotta conceptual real estate between Luis Edwardo Correa and Mosheh Thezion." If you're thinkin' about running for office, I'm thinkin' you wouldn't want to provoke or antagonize, so what gives with the screen name?
E-MAN???
what does that mean?
And i was born, Fabio, raised as Luis, and strive to be Mosheh, and so, what is the problem?
And the truth is... if i run... it is to provoke and to antagonize.
I got the name Mosheh, from a jewish girlfriends mother who did not like the fact that i was not a jew... so she re-named me...
and i liked it... since i had recently learned of the mix up with the names, Fabio and Luis... I adopted Mosheh as a third name, at age 16.
And Thezion, comes from Don Mcleans American Pie album... as it seemed fitting.
-MEMAT
Mosheh Thezion
05-21-2009, 05:38 PM
MEMAT,
What I'm about to say might be offensive, but it is the truth. Your writing skill is on par with a 12 year old. You lack any understanding of basic grammar, sentence structure, or paragraph structure. You say the wrong things. If you do not improve your writing ability, no one will ever take you seriously and you will not go anywhere.
I mean, you put your freaking name in single quotes. WTF is that man? And you list your online forum handle in an email to a non-internet entity? What is going through your head? And immediately after you state your views are most like the republican party, our of no where and for no apparent reason you say "My background is full of sin, small crimes, and tickets and offences, to be sure," Yea man...that's really going to win people over.
Sincerely,
'Brandon Yates'
IM JUST TELLING YOU THE TRUTH.... or as much as I see it.
Can i be wrong??? sure.
Can i miss use " " ???? sure..
is my grammer skills lacking.... ??? yes.
And I perfect...??? NO.
Fact is... I DONT WANT TO RUN... but everyone seems to be ignoring the stem of the issue, which is the constitution as law... and no one especially the politicians want to discuss ending the NEW DEAL...
AND THOSE who talk of... dont really know how to fix the very serious problems involved in doing so... but... I believe I do.
Give me alittle time to put it together in a proper platform, with proper sentence structure and grammer, for your consideration.
I do write.. letters and send them all over the world, and they do not have all these lines spaces... or .......... or excessive use of " "... ok.
I use that here.. in a casual setting of a casual forum of discussion.
-MEMAT
Mosheh Thezion
05-21-2009, 05:42 PM
lol Why did MEMAT get banned?
I was banned for two days... because i broke the rules about staying on topic in the E-cig thread... and then... argueing with the mod about it.
which is a good thing... because he banned me before i could respond again..
And my next post... was full of foul language... ha..
bUT IT NEVER GOT POSTED... because he banned me first... which is good.
But.. i must say, he did a good job, as he split the thread... and did not simply delete my posts, and for that, i thank him.
-MEMAT
Nathan Hale
05-21-2009, 06:08 PM
Memat -
There are many quality pro-liberty candidates out there attempting runs at office. It seems as though your effort, while well-intentioned, is not going to be an effective use of your time. There are many other ways to support the cause of bringing America to a more Constitutional place - why not dedicate yourself to one of those many other paths?
Mosheh Thezion
05-21-2009, 06:22 PM
Memat -
There are many quality pro-liberty candidates out there attempting runs at office. It seems as though your effort, while well-intentioned, is not going to be an effective use of your time. There are many other ways to support the cause of bringing America to a more Constitutional place - why not dedicate yourself to one of those many other paths?
I am running, or tryng to, because Kokesh wont commit to ending the new deal of 1933.
Rand... doesnt say it.
Ron paul doesnt say it.
no politician in office fights for it.
And people try and say to me... that i should ignore it.
im sorry... i dont want to run, I feel as if i have to.
Show me a candidate who is pushing to end the NEW DEAL, and can offer up solutions to the very entrenched problems associated with doing so, and I will join their band wagon... or atleast consder them a partner.
I.. can offer up solutions, or atleast i think I can, and it is my duty to run, because those who refuse to run are doomed to be ruled over my lesser men.
And to many in the liberty movement... scream for defiance, revolution and and open revolt... and they must be stopped, because they are going to get people hurt.
I say we can have a revolution, but it doesnt have to be violent, and we dont need to be defieant... we just need solutions.
Im waiting till next week to speak to the GOP guy in my area, and then, I will move forward from there.
-MEMAT
Dr.3D
05-21-2009, 06:42 PM
MEMAT, they probably don't understand that the New Deal is still in effect or they would have done something about it already. I understand your concern.
Edit: Perhaps starting a thread in the General Politics area or perhaps the Constitution area asking if people know the New Deal is still in effect, would get the ball rolling.
Or perhaps just asking if the New Deal is still in effect would be more appropriate.
Mosheh Thezion
05-22-2009, 12:23 AM
MEMAT, they probably don't understand that the New Deal is still in effect or they would have done something about it already. I understand your concern.
Edit: Perhaps starting a thread in the General Politics area or perhaps the Constitution area asking if people know the New Deal is still in effect, would get the ball rolling.
Or perhaps just asking if the New Deal is still in effect would be more appropriate.
i did that... the constitutionis not in effect thread..
and the people here... were not very cool about it.
it is still in effect..
the NEW DEAL... was... give the Federal government unlimited power, and it would take care of everything...
And that was what happened... they built roads... power plants... etc.. and it worked for some time.... it kept people fed.
but... that was when interest payments were low... on the debt.
those interest payments are now huge.. and the whole deal is turning very bad.
the problem is.. people have forgotten about that deal.. and act as if it is a non-issue... as if losing constitutional law is a non-issue..
it is not a non-issue.... it is the only issue which can end the debt, free the people and restore a constitutional government, by ending the NEW DEAL of 1933.
WE NEED a NEW DEAL.. for 2012.... and im writing it now.
-MEMAT
Dr.3D
05-22-2009, 02:49 AM
i did that... the constitutionis not in effect thread..
and the people here... were not very cool about it.
it is still in effect..
the NEW DEAL... was... give the Federal government unlimited power, and it would take care of everything...
And that was what happened... they built roads... power plants... etc.. and it worked for some time.... it kept people fed.
but... that was when interest payments were low... on the debt.
those interest payments are now huge.. and the whole deal is turning very bad.
the problem is.. people have forgotten about that deal.. and act as if it is a non-issue... as if losing constitutional law is a non-issue..
it is not a non-issue.... it is the only issue which can end the debt, free the people and restore a constitutional government, by ending the NEW DEAL of 1933.
WE NEED a NEW DEAL.. for 2012.... and im writing it now.
-MEMAT
Well, instead of telling people the constitution is not in effect, it might be better to ask them a specific question.
Here is an example of a topic you might consider.
Is the New Deal of 1933 still in effect?
And then ask this question as the original posting and see if anybody knows anything about it. If they say it isn't in effect, then you can show them the evidence you have and they can discuss your evidence.
Sometimes people will fill you in on what they know about the subject. Asking a question usually gets more of a response when you are trying to get someones attention.
cheapseats
05-22-2009, 11:02 AM
E-MAN???
what does that mean?
You're doing it again, NOT answering direct questions.
And i was born, Fabio, raised as Luis, and strive to be Mosheh, and so, what is the problem?
Um, er . . . I don't know how to break this to you, but Americans FEAST on such details. Every aspect of your background will be gone over with a split-end splitting comb.
You wanna run for office in this country, these be your choices:
1.) Your past and present are open books -- not to say not checkered, not to say not R-rated, OPEN.
OR
2.) You take a hard none-of-your-business line.
You wanna put your name on a ballot, your name isn't one of the things you can keep private. Nor will your name appear in single quotes, with an alter-ego and explanation.
And the truth is... if i run... it is to provoke and to antagonize.
My understanding was that, if you run, you wouldn't be so much running as stepping up to the plate, yes? The Reluctant Leader.
I sense that it is too early for Reluctant Leaders to be announcing candidacies. NOW is the time for full-court press provocation, I quite agree. Let us poke at hornet nests and upset apple carts and impose economic sanctions and pull no punches and cut no quarter.
If not now, WHEN?
If we will roll up our sleeves and do what needs to be done (which includes extra-ordinary belt-tightening all around, don't let anyone tell you different), worthy representatives and trusted leaders will manifest, like phoenixes rising from the ashes -- you, perhaps, among them. As it was evident to freshly independent Americans who their representatives and leaders should be, so it would be for us.
I got the name Mosheh, from a jewish girlfriends mother who did not like the fact that i was not a jew... so she re-named me...
and i liked it...
Because it meant you were IN with your girlfriend's Mom, or because it is a variant of Moses ... WHAT did you like about having your name changed AGAIN, by someone ELSE?
since i had recently learned of the mix up with the names, Fabio and Luis... I adopted Mosheh as a third name, at age 16.
And Thezion, comes from Don Mcleans American Pie album... as it seemed fitting.
-MEMAT
Would your given name or your "adoptive" name -- y'know, your OTHER given name -- appear on the ballot?
Nathan Hale
05-22-2009, 06:25 PM
I am running, or tryng to, because Kokesh wont commit to ending the new deal of 1933.
Rand... doesnt say it.
Ron paul doesnt say it.
no politician in office fights for it.
Many of us, Ron Paul included, believe that the New Deal of 1933 should be ended. But it's just not a politically feasible goal. So why make that the crux on which we run? Politics is an incremental game - direction matters more than destination.
If you run on a platform of ending the New Deal, you will lose. Any strategist would tell you the same. Does that mean there's no way to end the New Deal? Anything but. Ending the New Deal is entirely possible. Run for office on a Ron Paul style platform. Get elected. Work toward change - balancing the budget, reducing the size and scope of government incrementally, so that one day we can realistically talk about scaling back everything established in the 1930s.
Mosheh Thezion
05-22-2009, 09:31 PM
You're doing it again, NOT answering direct questions.
Um, er . . . I don't know how to break this to you, but Americans FEAST on such details. Every aspect of your background will be gone over with a split-end splitting comb.
You wanna run for office in this country, these be your choices:
1.) Your past and present are open books -- not to say not checkered, not to say not R-rated, OPEN.
OR
2.) You take a hard none-of-your-business line.
You wanna put your name on a ballot, your name isn't one of the things you can keep private. Nor will your name appear in single quotes, with an alter-ego and explanation.
My understanding was that, if you run, you wouldn't be so much running as stepping up to the plate, yes? The Reluctant Leader.
I sense that it is too early for Reluctant Leaders to be announcing candidacies. NOW is the time for full-court press provocation, I quite agree. Let us poke at hornet nests and upset apple carts and impose economic sanctions and pull no punches and cut no quarter.
If not now, WHEN?
If we will roll up our sleeves and do what needs to be done (which includes extra-ordinary belt-tightening all around, don't let anyone tell you different), worthy representatives and trusted leaders will manifest, like phoenixes rising from the ashes -- you, perhaps, among them. As it was evident to freshly independent Americans who their representatives and leaders should be, so it would be for us.
Because it meant you were IN with your girlfriend's Mom, or because it is a variant of Moses ... WHAT did you like about having your name changed AGAIN, by someone ELSE?
Would your given name or your "adoptive" name -- y'know, your OTHER given name -- appear on the ballot?
1) IT IS ALL OPEN... and none of their buisness.. because it doesnt matter, I will always say... dont vote for me, because of how rightous i am, but because of the platform i commit to bringing forward and my commitment to the restoration of the constitution as law, and the restoration of the common law which will set my people free... and the people need and want that freedom, and the only way to get it, is with the common law.
2) Sure I am reluctant, but I have no choice, since no one else is taking the line I address, and no one else is offering the solution i have addressed to the world for the past 3 years... to every nation on earth... who by the way, have not said "no"
3) now is the time, Im not waiting, I simply have alot of work to do to get it done.
4) that girlfriends... mom... did not give me a choice... it was settled.. she would say... "where is Moshe?" and my girl would say.. his name is Luis... and the mother would say... "oh no... his name is Moshe!"
and i would never dare argue with her...
after a while.. i started to like it...
she was the most stereo typical jewish women you can imagine... heavy accent.. and sweet as apple pie....
eventually.. I choose on my own to adopt it.
5) I like the new name Mosheh... because I had been thinking about the issue, after learning that my birth certificate says Fabio, but somehow my parents got all my id's to say Luis.. which should not be possible.. but somehow, they did it.. they were it seems to lazy to get the birth certificate changed.
ya see... when born.. they had NOT picked a name.. but the nurse demanded it... and my mother had no choice, so she gave my fathers middle name.. Fabio.
but 5 minutes latter.. my father shows up.. and says.. oh no.. because Grandma told everyone in south america, myname would be Luis...
and so.. luis it was... but the certificate was already filed, and they forgot about it.
so... learning this... at age 15.. at age 16 17... I felt off.. and Mosheh was a good addition to my fragile identy to make me feel complete.. but I did stop there.
which is another long story.
its helps if you ask the questions... in 1,2,3,4... format.
And what is E-man?????
-MEMAT
Mosheh Thezion
05-22-2009, 09:37 PM
Many of us, Ron Paul included, believe that the New Deal of 1933 should be ended. But it's just not a politically feasible goal. So why make that the crux on which we run? Politics is an incremental game - direction matters more than destination.
If you run on a platform of ending the New Deal, you will lose. Any strategist would tell you the same. Does that mean there's no way to end the New Deal? Anything but. Ending the New Deal is entirely possible. Run for office on a Ron Paul style platform. Get elected. Work toward change - balancing the budget, reducing the size and scope of government incrementally, so that one day we can realistically talk about scaling back everything established in the 1930s.
YOU DONT HAVE TOO.. neither does paul... or Adam.. or Rand...
But I do.. I must.. because I have already worked it out, and I say it is politically feasable...
I would loose... if I cannot offer a solution... a good one.. a clear one.. which solves all the underlying problems, and saves what the people dont want to loose.
We can have our cake and eat it too... we just need to make two cakes.
We could do it slow... but that... is for weaklings..
again... if the men and women of congress.. had the inspiration, the will, and the back bone... to stand up and work on it... THEN THEY WOULD NOT NEED ME.. TO JOIN THE POLITICAL CIRCLES...
but as it is... I feel duty bound to do so, until my proposals are thrown down by the people... and I honestly dont think they will.
in fact... I think I can gain the support of the international bankers... as well.
and most democrats.. but ill have to wait and see.. and sell it.. sell it.. sell it.
-MEMAT
jdmyprez_deo_vindice
05-22-2009, 10:12 PM
So I went to your "church" website and this has led to more questions.
1.) Do you consider yourself a Pastor?
2.) You were inspired at birth, 11 years of age and 33 years of age by observing a woman drinking from a gutter?
3.) Your church has raised $1.53 which is kept in a safe place?
4.) You are part of the "brotherhood" which has taken a vow of poverty yet if you pulled off the impossible and actually achieved your goal of winning the Presidency, you would have at your disposal a mansion, multi billion dollar aircraft, luxurious food and a hefty salary. Would this not be a total contradiction to the vows set forth by your own doctrine?
5.) Your church and plans of action sound very globalist to me. Do you believe in globalism? What exactly is your stance on this?
Kotin
05-22-2009, 10:19 PM
dude peddle your shit somewhere else.. this is incredibly moronic..
Mosheh Thezion
05-23-2009, 12:37 AM
So I went to your "church" website and this has led to more questions.
1.) Do you consider yourself a Pastor?
2.) You were inspired at birth, 11 years of age and 33 years of age by observing a woman drinking from a gutter?
3.) Your church has raised $1.53 which is kept in a safe place?
4.) You are part of the "brotherhood" which has taken a vow of poverty yet if you pulled off the impossible and actually achieved your goal of winning the Presidency, you would have at your disposal a mansion, multi billion dollar aircraft, luxurious food and a hefty salary. Would this not be a total contradiction to the vows set forth by your own doctrine?
5.) Your church and plans of action sound very globalist to me. Do you believe in globalism? What exactly is your stance on this?
1)... A pastor... no... a preacher... no... preist... no... im CEO, and Avatar General, and if I must preach, i will, and often do so, but I would rather find someone else, of a specific faith to do so, regarding any one religion, rather than suggest I am qualified to preach it all... because I am not.
2) yes... not really at birth.. did i write that? ill check... but early childhood, by a bizarre sense of purpose.. very annoying... and at age 11, when I asked god a question, and did not actually get an answer.. but experienced an epiphany of understading.... but,,, gee... i wish an angel would have apeared, or at the very least of heard a voice... but no such luck... just a clearing of fog.. for a young child, it was quite effecting... it changed everything... for my fragile mind.
and yes.. at age 33... when i saw a homeless crippled wheelchaired women... crawl from it... and scream.. i dont care... and then drink from a gutter, right next to a large church, on sunset blvd... with mercedes driving by...
it caused me to recall all the teaching of Jesus... which rang in my head, and i was so shocked by it, I desided to begin this church, to try and do what the churches should be doing...
there are 33,000 churches in Califnornia alone.. and 370,000 homeless people, which means if each church took in 11 people... there would then, be no homeless people... but.. as you may know.. churches.. make excuse.. which contradict the message of Jesus... hence.. the reason i started it.
3) yes.. so far.. 1 dollar and 53 cents... I make no claim of success in fund raising, but i am hopeful to start it up again... but.. im not a rich man, and need a few dollars to afford the solicitation campaign, which im working on.
4) The vow of poverty, is based on how much the church... can pay me.. or you.. or anyone... ie.. no member if the church can make more than minimum wage.. and in truth... if i was president.. I would use my salary to start the church, by giving 50% to it... and.. I am.. the founder of the brotherhood.. which has not actually started up as of yet... but im working on it.. again.. it needs funding.
5) the church.. is not globalistic... it is based on love, which is world wide.. or should be.. it would be able to spread world wide, and unite religion and do the charity work, the other wealthy religions... COULD be doing... but dont.
-- globilization... is not inherently evil... it is just poorly managed... by governments across the globe... and if managed properly.. it could benefit both the rich and poor nations.. but at present.. is mostly.. exploitation.
the church... is not meant to be a buisness... or a for profit enterprise.. it is meant to be a family under god, working to bring prosperity to those who have personal trouble with prospering in the free market... such as the homeless.
anything else?
-MEMAT
Mosheh Thezion
05-23-2009, 12:54 AM
dude peddle your shit somewhere else.. this is incredibly moronic..
Why are you so offended?
Shall we discuss the laws of the old testiment?
such as...
Lev. 25:35
And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay, with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
Lev 25:36 Take thou no usury of, him, or increase: but fear thy God;, that thy brother may live with thee.
Lev 25:37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.
Did not the jews... sojourn in eqypt.... as strangers????
thus are not others of another land... in your land.. sojourning?
And do you.. as the resident Jew, believe in forgiving all debts after 7 years? even if it has not been paid off in full??
just a few simple questions..
you dont have to answer of course...
I do not attack Jews any less than christians who ignore Jesus.
So.. dont take it peronal.
AND ANYWAY... im not a preacher.... but if asked.. i can try.
honeslty.. the reason i dont preach... is because im not very nice about it.
-MEMAT
Kotin
05-23-2009, 01:13 PM
Why are you so offended?
Shall we discuss the laws of the old testiment?
such as...
Lev. 25:35
And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay, with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
Lev 25:36 Take thou no usury of, him, or increase: but fear thy God;, that thy brother may live with thee.
Lev 25:37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.
Did not the jews... sojourn in eqypt.... as strangers????
thus are not others of another land... in your land.. sojourning?
And do you.. as the resident Jew, believe in forgiving all debts after 7 years? even if it has not been paid off in full??
just a few simple questions..
you dont have to answer of course...
I do not attack Jews any less than christians who ignore Jesus.
So.. dont take it peronal.
AND ANYWAY... im not a preacher.... but if asked.. i can try.
honeslty.. the reason i dont preach... is because im not very nice about it.
-MEMAT
the old testament is comprised of stories of a god whom condones murder, rape and slavery among other atrocious things.. so take that somewhere else as well... I would not be so quick to attempt to teach me of Jewish Law.. I have completely studied it and experienced it, and therefore am in the greatest position to refute it wholly and utterly..
you have many twisted views.. and I will say it again: take your shit somewhere else.. you want to run for president? you are out of your mind.
the fact that you are dilusional enough to start with running for president, that this is your brilliant plan to save the world speaks miles on your current mental status.
Mosheh Thezion
05-24-2009, 01:29 AM
the old testament is comprised of stories of a god whom condones murder, rape and slavery among other atrocious things.. so take that somewhere else as well... I would not be so quick to attempt to teach me of Jewish Law.. I have completely studied it and experienced it, and therefore am in the greatest position to refute it wholly and utterly..
you have many twisted views.. and I will say it again: take your shit somewhere else.. you want to run for president? you are out of your mind.
the fact that you are dilusional enough to start with running for president, that this is your brilliant plan to save the world speaks miles on your current mental status.
ha... well said...
BUT..
why dont you refute it???? go ahead and try!!!!!!!!!!!
why dont you point out my twisted views??????? eh?? go ahead and try!!!!!!!!
Why dont you... explain why im delusional? or out of my mind???
eh?????
ha... those are easy things to say...
But if you try... YOU will find that it is much more difficult to do so, with a winning arguement.
believe me... I would NOT be talking here.. saying these things.. and attempting to run.. if I had not already tested myself against 1000's of people all across the globe.
I suggest... you make clear arguements.. and if not, consider that, possibly, i may not be your enemy, and am in truth, your friend.
think about it.
-MEMAT
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