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Jordan
05-13-2009, 11:25 PM
President Barack Obama’s decision to withhold photographs of abused detainees marks the next phase in the education of the new president on the complicated, combustible issue of torture.

Conservatives praised the move as a sign of Obama’s growth in office, while civil libertarians denounced it as a betrayal of the change he’d campaigned on.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090514/pl_politico/22503

Making a distinction between conservatives and libertarians, that's almost a good thing. :D

Conza88
05-14-2009, 01:03 AM
Except the distinction between "civil" libertarians and plain "libertarians" is retarded.

Since all rights are derived from property (Self ownership), you don't actually have a right to free speech. (Yeaaah, you heard me) You can't walk into my house and shout about your right to free speech, is being violated when I kick you out the door.

Just the same as the tard's do on private forums, like ahhh *COUGH*. :)

Those "civil" libertarians, aren't actually Libertarians. They're just pissed socialists who acknowledge the Democrats are doing wrong and they certainly don't want to be "republicans" or "conservatives".

heavenlyboy34
05-14-2009, 08:00 AM
Except the distinction between "civil" libertarians and plain "libertarians" is retarded.

Since all rights are derived from property (Self ownership), you don't actually have a right to free speech. (Yeaaah, you heard me) You can't walk into my house and shout about your right to free speech, is being violated when I kick you out the door.

Just the same as the tard's do on private forums, like ahhh *COUGH*. :)

Those "civil" libertarians, aren't actually Libertarians. They're just pissed socialists who acknowledge the Democrats are doing wrong and they certainly don't want to be "republicans" or "conservatives".

+1

TonySutton
05-14-2009, 08:05 AM
I think they were talking about the ACLU.

The ACLU is all over the press, speaking out against the decision by Obama

tonesforjonesbones
05-14-2009, 09:12 AM
well ..ha...Obama's exposure of bush's war crimes is incriminating his own folks...lol..the socialist democrats who were just as deep in the kimchee...i hope they all get exposed..but he's starting to lock it back up. Piglosi is incriminated as well as Panetta..hehe. tones