Executive of LGBT Youth convicted in Pedophile ring

[BeFranklin]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5292472/Eight-members-of-paedophile-ring-found-guilty-of-child-porn-and-sex-charges.html


Eight members of a global paedophile ring were found guilty of a catalogue of child pornography and abuse charges, including the sexual assault of a three-month-old baby.

The groundbreaking court case uncovered Scotland's biggest paedophile network and revealed the shocking crimes of a "spider's web of apparently respectable men".

A jury at the High Court in Edinburgh took ten hours to return verdicts on 54 separate charges.

It emerged during the case that the ringleaders Neil Strachan and James Rennie befriended the families of the children they abused.

Rennie, 38, was the chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland, a group dedicated to helping young lesbian and homosexual deal with their sexuality.

Strachan, 41, a paint firm engineer who was previously jailed for molesting a young boy, was the former secretary of a Celtic boys club and a campaigner on homosexual issues.

The court was told that he was "polluted by deviant compulsion". Dorothy Bain QC, prosecuting, said: "In reality he is someone who allowed his profound interest in the sexual abuse of children to engulf his entire life."

Some of the evidence the jurors sat through was so disturbing that consideration was given to offering them counselling at the end of the case.

Rennie circulated photographs of his abuse of a small boy, allowed Strachan to join him in the assault, and offered the child to other paedophiles.

The family of his victim – described in court as Child F - said after the verdicts were announced that their life had been "turned upside down".

They added: "For over 15 years James Rennie seemed the closest of family friends and it is hard to put into words the extent of the betrayal he has exacted upon us, as many of the details may identify our family and son.

"To subsequently learn that he abused our son, and invited others to do the same, has been devastating. As a family we have had to learn to live, and cope with, the effect these horrific events have had."

The mother of an 18-month-old boy abused by Strachan said she would never be able to forgive him for the "sick" attacks on her son.

She added: "The anguish I feel towards Mr Strachan is indescribable. I feel that no matter what punishment given to Mr Strachan it will never be able to compensate for the hurt, devastation and great deal of stress brought to me and my family.

"Mr Strachan used and abused our trust in order to satisfy his and others' sick needs."

In a legal first in a Scottish court, five of the men were convicted of a charge of conspiring to commit sex offences against children.

The group was caught after an international investigation called Operation Algebra was launched in response to the discovery of photographs on the computer of one of the men.

More than 125,000 images were seized in the inquiry and officers discovered links with paedophiles in the US and the Netherlands.

Strachan, Rennie, Ross Webber, 27, a bank worker from North Berwick, Craig Boath, 24, an insurance claims adjuster, and John Milligan, 40, a civil servant from Glasgow, were found guilty of plotting to turn their fantasies into reality by arranging access to children to carry out acts of sexual abuse.

The same five were also found guilty, along with Colin Slaven, 23, an IT worker from Edinburgh, John Murphy, 44, a receptionist in a sauna in Glasgow, and Neil Campbell, 46, a cake firm manager from Glasgow, of charges relating to child pornography.

The offences were committed in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Dundee and East Lothian between February 2004 to May 2008.

They will be sentenced later.

[Unspun]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009174223_priesttrial05m.html

[Thandurin]

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[Uriel999]

Hey since our government waterboards people...could we get them to do so to them?

[tangent4ronpaul]

What? - No Catholic priests involved? - Amazing...

Yes this is DESPICABLE!

At the same time, I have absolutely NO memories of my life before I was 5yo, and those are rare and fragmentary.... I have a really hard time believing this kid was "traumatized for life" from the experience. (NO - I don't think it's right! It's really pretty fucking SICK!) - But at the same time, I'm reminded of the guy that was busted for changing the diaper of his GF's kid... and wonder if this case is real or just another "justifying our existance" DOJ sex crimes unit BS...

:(

-t

[MsDoodahs]

What? - No Catholic priests involved? - Amazing...


-t

Probably just some Keynesians.

John Maynard wasn't JUST *****, he was also a pedophile.

[0zzy]

What? - No Catholic priests involved? - Amazing...

Yes this is DESPICABLE!

At the same time, I have absolutely NO memories of my life before I was 5yo, and those are rare and fragmentary.... I have a really hard time believing this kid was "traumatized for life" from the experience. (NO - I don't think it's right! It's really pretty fucking SICK!) - But at the same time, I'm reminded of the guy that was busted for changing the diaper of his GF's kid... and wonder if this case is real or just another "justifying our existance" DOJ sex crimes unit BS...

:(

-t

When something happens to you like this, memories will stain even the youngest lad.

[TonySutton]

Probably just some Keynesians.

John Maynard wasn't JUST *****, he was also a pedophile.

I think the problem here is with pedophiles, not "*****s."

[tmosley]

When something happens to you like this, memories will stain even the youngest lad.

My question is, how did the parents not notice that their three month old had been abused is such a manner? The only thing I can think of is that there was no penetration, and it was just rubbing, which hardly constitutes assault. Indeed, in different cultures, it is not uncommon for women suck their child's penis (certain cultures in northern Europe, Africa, and the East), and in others for them to masturbate them (Italy, Bulgaria, and Mongolia). This would end before their second birthday, and acted as a pacifier (ie those times when a child won't stop crying, this is probably what it wants). I honestly doubt that harm is caused by such actions, so long as they are not violent, coercive, or physically damaging to the child.

Remember that pedophiles are the group that has been selected by the state media as the set of people that can be hated by anyone and everyone, much like gays back in the 60's, Communists in the 50's, Jews just about anytime before the 40's, etc.

One has to put aside pathos in these types of situations, because it's a slippery slope, and any punishment that is applied to THEM will eventually be applied to US (political malcontents). Society's zero tolerance program has produced nothing but harm. Artificial definitions are further harmful to society as a whole, and harmful in the extreme to individuals, such as the young man who turned 18 and was sentenced to many years in prison (something like 15) for receiving (consensual) oral sex from a 16 year old girl. He will be labeled as a sex criminal for the rest of his life. Similar cases involve young girls (~14-18) sending nude pictures of themselves to their boyfriends, and being convicted on charges of producing child pornography.

The time will come when government botnets will start coming to websites like this, spamming with child pornography, and then we will all be arrested and locked up forever. This is even though we committed no violent crimes, nor did we encourage the commission of such acts (even if we had obtained such pictures ourselves). The mere "possession" of those images in the caches on your computer is enough to convict you. You will be labeled a sex offender for the rest of your life. Your time in prison will likely include a severe beating/rape (prisoners take it upon themselves to punish "pedophiles"), then the rest of your time will be spent in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day.

So let's see this for what it really is, and drop the moral outrage, can we? We're being controlled, and this is just a particularly poignant form of that control.

[Minarchy4Sale]

Jeesh. Gay Pedos work with Gay kids? Shocker.

[BeFranklin]

Probably just some Keynesians.

John Maynard wasn't JUST *****, he was also a pedophile.

I looked that up just now. Assuming this link is accurate, Maynard is just an earlier repeat of what happend here. Same stuff over and over.

http://www.spock.com/John-Maynard-Keynes/websites/frame?h=921e16c9c0&title=John+Maynard+Keynes%3A+Lavender+%26+Bolshevi k&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knology.net%2F%7Ebilrum%2Fkey nes.htm

[BeFranklin]

Jeesh. Gay Pedos work with Gay kids? Shocker.

And yet, this is happening all the time. Some people really are blind to reason. And every news story of the same type - over and over again, is surprising.

[He Who Pawns]

I think the problem here is with pedophiles, not "*****s."

It also depends on your definition of "pedophile." Thomas Jefferson used to fuck a 14-year-old, Sally Hemmings. Today, he'd be in jail and branded for life.

[BeFranklin]

It also depends on your definition of "pedophile." Thomas Jefferson used to [DELETED] a 14-year-old, Sally Hemmings. Today, he'd be in jail and branded for life.

Actually, Jefferson denied it, and subsequent events as well as testing implicates another member of his family.

Who may have been the atheist who wrote a book on Jefferson that scandalized him after he died to make money :rolleyes: Otherwise, it was the atheists father.
Its always easier to go to scandal or defaming words than towards truth or honor.

[LibertyEagle]

No personal attacks on other forum members, people. Seriously.

[BeFranklin]

No personal attacks on other forum members, people. Seriously.

I don't think reposting something the op posted about their life qualifies as a personal attack. But no matter, I'll gladly not mention since I didn't bring it up originally.

My definition of personal life is what I don't write publicly online but do in my own house. If you want to post about it publicly, doesn't mean I have
to now pretend its kosher to me. This was *not* something said privately to me.

[Roxi]

I don't think reposting something the op posted about their life qualifies as a personal attack. But no matter, I'll gladly not mention since I didn't bring it up originally.

My definition of personal life is what I don't write publicly online but do in my own house. If you want to post about it publicly, doesn't mean I have
to now pretend its kosher to me. This was *not* something said privately to me.

please show me where zach said that? feel free to PM it to me so as not to derail this thread any further


EDIT: NM i don't care, i know for a fact he didn't say what you quoted him to as saying, you put your own words into his mouth. i have no further interest in you or this thread.

[BeFranklin]

EDIT: NM i don't care, i know for a fact he didn't say what you quoted him to as saying, you put your own words into his mouth. i have no further interest in you or this thread.

End of thread by moderator request. And I don't put words in people's mouths.

[LibertyEagle]

It's fine if the thread goes on. We just all need to keep the personal attacks on other forum members out of it. That's all.

[misterx]

What? - No Catholic priests involved? - Amazing...

Yes this is DESPICABLE!

At the same time, I have absolutely NO memories of my life before I was 5yo, and those are rare and fragmentary.... I have a really hard time believing this kid was "traumatized for life" from the experience. (NO - I don't think it's right! It's really pretty fucking SICK!) - But at the same time, I'm reminded of the guy that was busted for changing the diaper of his GF's kid... and wonder if this case is real or just another "justifying our existance" DOJ sex crimes unit BS...

:(

-t

I have memories from when I was one year old. Regardless, you don't have to remember something for it to effect you subconsciously.

[BenIsForRon]

Hey BeFranklin, did ever occur to you that the pedophile joined the youth LGBT organization because he would have access to young people? Not because he was gay and that means he is predisposed to pedophilia.

People like BeFranklin need to take their bigotry to some other forums...


BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY RAPISTS!
HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY PEDOPHILES!

What part of "all men are created equal" do you not understand?

[BeFranklin]

Hey BeFranklin, did ever occur to you that the pedophile joined the youth LGBT organization because he would have access to young people? Not because he was gay and that means he is predisposed to pedophilia.

People like BeFranklin need to take their bigotry to some other forums...


BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY RAPISTS!
HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY PEDOPHILES!

What part of "all men are created equal" do you not understand?

A) This is a personal attack.

B) I didn't say anything other than to post the news story. I'll note they were both active LGBT activists though. I think I underlined it. It was more then just joining a group to get at kids, they were also the voices on TV and in the schools.

[BenIsForRon]

I'll note they were both active LGBT activists though. I think I underlined it. It was more then just joining a group to get at kids, they were also the voices on TV and in the schools.

So, what is the moral of the story? You can't trust LGBT activists?

[BeFranklin]

So, what is the moral of the story? You can't trust LGBT activists?

You think this is an unusual story? Articles like this appear all the time. Perhaps people don't post them because they might be attacked for for posting it. I'm not terriably pc or given to being bullied.

[BenIsForRon]

Yes, I do think this is an unusual story. Now, would you like to answer my question from the previous post?

[BeFranklin]

Yes, I do think this is an unusual story. Now, would you like to answer my question from the previous post?

There wasn't a moral to the story. I just posted the story without comment.

There could be a moral though. You make things PC by attacking people for just posting facts alone.
You often accuse people of bigotry and other personal attacks for posting an uncommented news story?

And no, this story isn't unusual. People aren't posting them because, I assume, they don't like the harassment it may generate towards them. Shoot, the homosexual lobby made enemies list in several places for voters who voted the wrong way. I'm not even sure that isn't criminal.

[BeFranklin]

Hey BeFranklin, did ever occur to you that the pedophile joined the youth LGBT organization because he would have access to young people? Not because he was gay and that means he is predisposed to pedophilia.

People like BeFranklin need to take their bigotry to some other forums...


BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY RAPISTS!
HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY PEDOPHILES!

What part of "all men are created equal" do you not understand?

This is a real winning example of PC-ness and bullying. People ought to attack this bullying and open up the society a little more.

[BeFranklin]

I have memories from when I was one year old. Regardless, you don't have to remember something for it to effect you subconsciously.

Yes, and it could affect your development, so even if it isn't subconscious, it could affect your early life choices which all your others than built upon.