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wirenut
05-05-2009, 05:44 PM
I was wondering if you guys have any alternatives to treat asthma then keep using my inhaler. Just curious if their is any other kind of herbs, teas or something that could help. Thanks.

dannno
05-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Cannabis. My asthma disappeared after I started smoking cannabis, and I now have a much better lung capacity almost 10 years later. THC relaxes your bronchial tubes. It also helps activate the scilia to clean your lungs. It's also an anti-cancer. You can also vaporize it to avoid the smoke.


But ya, there is a good legal herbal blend that I use occasionally, and it really helps clear up the lungs if you get exposed to pollution or anything that would bother your lungs.

http://www.vitacost.com/RidgeCrest-Herbals-ClearLungs-Extra-Strength-120-Vegetarian-Capsules

pappy
05-05-2009, 05:56 PM
I think caffiene may help, but can also make reflux worse which will worsen asthma if that is a component of your particular asthma.

pappy

LibertyEagle
05-05-2009, 06:10 PM
I'm sure it depends upon what kind of asthma you have, but Guaifenesin and a Saltpipe helped me.

asimplegirl
05-05-2009, 07:39 PM
I was wondering if you guys have any alternatives to treat asthma then keep using my inhaler. Just curious if their is any other kind of herbs, teas or something that could help. Thanks.

I am going to tell you something very strange, but you will never believe it unless you try it.

I had asthma VERY badly as a child, even had my right lung collapse...was not allowed to leave the house unless I could blow out 70 lbs of air into a measuring device everyday, even though a healthy child should be able to do osmwhere around 300....

The doctor told us something that worked miracles. Get a chihuahua. People with all sorts of lung issues get them, and they can practically cure it...I don't know how it works, it just does.

PaulaGem
05-05-2009, 07:54 PM
Don't look for an easy answer, you haven't given enough info here.

I will tell you that simple Vitiamin C is one of the most important treatments for my asthma.

Also, if you are talking about an albuterol "rescue inhaler" and that is the only option your doctor has given you - get another doctor.

I use foradyl, but there are other extended relief bronco-dialators out there.

If he is only prescribing albuterol your doctor is a putz.

wirenut
05-05-2009, 08:01 PM
Only thing he has gave me for my asthma is albuterol. Looks like I may need another doctor. My asthma has really been bothering me lately and don't like using my inhaler so often. Thanks for all your advice everyone.

asimplegirl
05-05-2009, 09:27 PM
You can call the doctor I used to see if you want and he can answer questions over the phone... he was a GREAT doctor. He specializes in this area.

PM me if you want the number.

pappy
05-05-2009, 09:29 PM
you should be on a preventative medicine if you're having lots of trouble. go to another doc or ask your doc about asthma preventative. albuterol only helps the airway constriction. it doesn't prevent attacks.

there are many preventatives, but the most common and effective of the classical medicines are inhaled steroids(not as many side effects as steroids by mouth because they are topically depositied in the airways and not absorbed to any great extent into the bloodstream).

the other most common perventative is called singulair. it is inflammation modulator (similar to how motrin works but by different pathway).

These two are the best of the preventatives as far as classical meds.

Caffiene is not a classical med but i mentioned it because it does have dilating effects on airways but is not significantly toxic.

i would see an asthma specialist/doctor/homeopath who is good at treating this as you really need to see if there is a root cause to the asthma that can be treated. asthma is not completely understod but there are some things that are known to trigger it (allergies,fumes,cold, heartburn,anxiety etc.). if you can discover a trigger then an important part of treatment will be avoidance of the trigger (this may be the most important thing--to figure out if there are triggers and avoid them).

The question is will you do it if you find them. I have wheezing from time to time. I know several triggers (tobacco, cold air,eating foods that predispose to heartburn) but I choose to ignore them. medicines will not help my obstinence :-)

also if i remebeer correctly the american academy of allergy and immunology has a very detailed algorithm on the diagnosis and treatment of asthma if you have a technical bent and are interested in medicine approach.

pappy

dannno
05-06-2009, 12:47 AM
I HATED my prescription inhaler asthma preventatives.

asimplegirl
05-06-2009, 07:11 AM
I don't remember which inhalers I was on, but I remember those nasty ass steroids.

PatriotG
05-06-2009, 07:20 AM
I am going to tell you something very strange, but you will never believe it unless you try it.

I had asthma VERY badly as a child, even had my right lung collapse...was not allowed to leave the house unless I could blow out 70 lbs of air into a measuring device everyday, even though a healthy child should be able to do osmwhere around 300....

The doctor told us something that worked miracles. Get a chihuahua. People with all sorts of lung issues get them, and they can practically cure it...I don't know how it works, it just does.

It's true, but they're extremely difficult to swallow.

tmosley
05-06-2009, 07:21 AM
Cannabis. My asthma disappeared after I started smoking cannabis, and I now have a much better lung capacity almost 10 years later. THC relaxes your bronchial tubes. It also helps activate the scilia to clean your lungs. It's also an anti-cancer. You can also vaporize it to avoid the smoke.


But ya, there is a good legal herbal blend that I use occasionally, and it really helps clear up the lungs if you get exposed to pollution or anything that would bother your lungs.

http://www.vitacost.com/RidgeCrest-Herbals-ClearLungs-Extra-Strength-120-Vegetarian-Capsules

Would it work in brownies? I think that may be easier to handle than a vaporizer.

DamianTV
05-07-2009, 12:55 AM
First thing, BIG WARNING! Stay as far the hell away from these new prescription drugs they are trying to prescribe for asthma.

I was watching TV at some point and I started laughing my ass off because there was a new drug commercial for an asthma treatment called Advair (I think), then the very next commercial was promoting a class action lawsuit if youve taken the product Advair. The spots were literally back to back, and with my TV background can easily tell you that is not supposed to happen. But it did and I fell on the floor laughing so hard.

But its not the point. If you have to use an inhaler, use something that has been around for at least twenty years. Primatine Mist and I dont know what other inhalers are available, but I do also remember that some politicians were trying to get rid of Primatine Mist because it does contain CFC's (the ones that cause the ozone layer to go bye bye). However I suspect this was a tactic to try to promote these new butt ass super expensive guiney pig drugs that are NOT designed to help you, just make you more and more dependant while they financially milk you for everything they can get.

BTW, the reason they were saying they were going after the makers of Advair was because it increases the severity and intensity of asthma attacks and has been linked to multiple deaths. I dont know if that Primatine Mist is even still around after that last push by the jackoffs in DC to rip us off even further, but if it is, and you need to use an inhaler, stick with that.

PaulaGem
05-07-2009, 08:15 AM
There are some problems with Advair - but I got Valley Fever a few years back and couldn't kick it until I used it for six months (actually then it was two separate inhalers, but same combination) on a regular basis as prescribed by a respiratory specialist.

Several doctors had prescribed it before that but did not get the right strength and didn't give me proper instructions on how to use it.

I prefer the Foradyl now because I don't want the steroids if I don't need them.

THESE ARE PRESCRIPTION MEDICINES they are meant to be taken under the care of a physician and properly monitored. If the physician doesn't do his job you will be the one suffering the consequences.

I told my G.P. that I thought I was sick all the time because of the Valley Fever, she said no, that couldn't be the case two years later. She was WRONG!! I had anaphalactic (sp??) shock and almost died because she screwed up. Now I have brain damage, lost my home and my business property to foreclosure in 2007 because it took six years after that for someone to discover I had anoxic brain damage.

Don't listen to armchair quarterbacks OR ignorant physicians when it comes to taking care of your asthma.

PaulaGem
05-07-2009, 08:20 AM
http://www.albionmonitor.com/9709a/primatene.html


That advice could kill someone.

DamianTV
05-09-2009, 04:34 AM
http://www.albionmonitor.com/9709a/primatene.html


That advice could kill someone.

Is Primatine Mist even still around? I thought it went away because of the CFCs being used as the accelerant...

LibertyEagle
05-09-2009, 04:40 AM
I will tell you this, if you have asthma pretty bad, it's well worth the money to find a great pulmonologist (lung doctor). Do your homework and find a great one. He/she can make a world of difference. Do it soon, before your asthma gets worse, or there is damage to your lungs.

tmosley
05-09-2009, 09:06 AM
http://www.albionmonitor.com/9709a/primatene.html


That advice could kill someone.

That website is 12 years old. I wonder if they have updated?

PaulaGem
05-10-2009, 05:15 AM
The medical information given is pretty basic and still accurate by my knowledge. As someone who has almost died from an asthma attack I stay current.

Wyurm
05-18-2009, 06:25 AM
first, no one piece of advice is good for everyone. For example, I use Primatene mist inhaler and a blend of tea called "Breathe Easy". I also make sure to use a respirator whenever I use anything containing MDI (aka isocyanate) which is found in stains, paints, spray foam, etc... Usually the containers tell you to use a respirator but people don't usually obey.

Anyway, yes Primatene is still around and sold all over the place. It is just epinephrine, the same thing you find in an epipen. In nature you would know it as adrenaline. It is only safe if you follow the directions on the box, however, rather than just looking for a quick fix you really should find a professional that you can trust and work with them to find triggers, undergo an allergy test, etc.. so you can come up with a customized plan to manage your asthma. Just stay away from doctors that whip out their prescription pad the instant you say "asthma".

I wish you the best of luck.

Icymudpuppy
05-18-2009, 07:09 AM
Is it just asthma without a trigger, or allergy induced?

I had hayfever and other allergy related asthmas. During allergy season, I simply block my nostrils with a small wad of toilet paper. It makes a world of difference.

LittleLightShining
05-18-2009, 07:23 AM
Only thing he has gave me for my asthma is albuterol. Looks like I may need another doctor. My asthma has really been bothering me lately and don't like using my inhaler so often. Thanks for all your advice everyone.I have had asthma since I was a kid. I was on all kinds of different medications but always had a rescue inhaler. When I went off the other medications I didn't need the albuterol as much. Sometimes I need it a lot and sometimes I go for months without using it.

Try to figure out what you're allergic to. And don't write your doctor off so quickly.

LittleLightShining
05-18-2009, 07:27 AM
First thing, BIG WARNING! Stay as far the hell away from these new prescription drugs they are trying to prescribe for asthma.

I was watching TV at some point and I started laughing my ass off because there was a new drug commercial for an asthma treatment called Advair (I think), then the very next commercial was promoting a class action lawsuit if youve taken the product Advair. The spots were literally back to back, and with my TV background can easily tell you that is not supposed to happen. But it did and I fell on the floor laughing so hard.

But its not the point. If you have to use an inhaler, use something that has been around for at least twenty years. Primatine Mist and I dont know what other inhalers are available, but I do also remember that some politicians were trying to get rid of Primatine Mist because it does contain CFC's (the ones that cause the ozone layer to go bye bye). However I suspect this was a tactic to try to promote these new butt ass super expensive guiney pig drugs that are NOT designed to help you, just make you more and more dependant while they financially milk you for everything they can get.

BTW, the reason they were saying they were going after the makers of Advair was because it increases the severity and intensity of asthma attacks and has been linked to multiple deaths. I dont know if that Primatine Mist is even still around after that last push by the jackoffs in DC to rip us off even further, but if it is, and you need to use an inhaler, stick with that.I'm allergic to primatene mist. It makes my chest prickly and I have a harder time breathing with it.

I agree, stay away from the new drugs. Albuterol has been around forever and it works. They changed the prescription, the old cfc kind (which I think worked better than the new stuff) is illegal now. I wish I had stocked up when I could have.

You can also try ephedrine. It's a mild stimulant and that helped me when I was on the road and didn't have access to prescription meds.

angelatc
05-18-2009, 07:31 AM
http://www.drugstore.com/search/search_results.asp?N=0&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ntk=All&srchtree=1&Ntt=Primatene&Go.x=1&Go.y=15

Apparently Primetene Mist is indeed still around.

angelatc
05-18-2009, 07:32 AM
You can also try ephedrine. It's a mild stimulant and that helped me when I was on the road and didn't have access to prescription meds.

Also illegal now. :(

wirenut
05-18-2009, 02:55 PM
Thanks everyone for the advice. Seemed to get it under control now with your guys help. Doctor got me on singular and claritin. Just strange, I've had asthma since I was a kid and never had this much trouble til now. Must have been over 15 years or so since the last time I had this much trouble. Its usually the cold weather that triggers it most often, but now it happens whenever is seems like.

pinkmandy
05-18-2009, 08:43 PM
http://www.healingfoodreference.com/index.html

You might find that helpful, just adding foods that fight asthma to your diet could alleviate some attacks or symptoms?

Mosheh Thezion
05-18-2009, 11:43 PM
I was wondering if you guys have any alternatives to treat asthma then keep using my inhaler. Just curious if their is any other kind of herbs, teas or something that could help. Thanks.


I had asthma... all my life... and i tell you... it is because your body is reacting to the crap in the air....

you... are simply more sensitive... to smog.

your body reacts... because you being exposed to crap.. and it trys to protect you.

What you need... is good.. air filtration.. down to the micron level..

a good hepafilter, to control the contaminants in the air... may help.

get one, experiment with it.. in a closed room... not an ionizer... but a filter... with a carbon filter put in.

try a chemical resperator.. used by painters and such... they cost 25 dollars at home depot... the good ones... the big one...

i suffer ashma... if I allow myself too much exposure to car emmission.. which is because i drive... alot.. so it is hard.

My car leaks.. brake fluid, which burns on the engine.

i was almost dieing with asthma.. until i realise i was poluting myself with my left side car fumes, from my engine, and openning myy right pasanger side window... solved the problem... more fresh air.. and less... fumemy air.

your body... wants to protect you... asthma.. is what it does.


so... eliminate the sponsors...


i used to duck tape hepa filters to my air vents in my car... and put it on recycle... not vent... and was able to enjoy.. clean air.. when driving...

it works... try it.

if it doesnt work... maybe you are too sensistive.

anyway.. something is setting off your immune responce to the crap in the air.

eliminate that crap.. and you eliminate the immune responce.

-MEMAT

FindLiberty
05-19-2009, 12:44 AM
Speaking of LUNGS, watch out for the chemicals in artificially flavored buttered popcorn....

...and here is my second LUNGS heads-up regarding "super-glue" like products:
Recently, a non-asthmatic family member (in perfect health) became quite weak and found it
"very hard to breathe starting ~4 hours AFTER exposure to Cyanoacrylate fumes..."
"had to stay upright; could not breathe laying down" (for that night's sleep); he suspects,
"falling asleep a few hours earlier may have been fatal" (for him)!

Here are various snips (in blue) from wiki:

Cyanoacrylate is a tenacious adhesive, particularly when used to bond non-porous materials or those that contain minute traces of water. It is also very good at bonding body tissue, and while this can be a bothersome (or even dangerous) side effect during everyday use, it has been exploited for the benefit of suture-less surgery.

Cyanoacrylate is used as a forensic tool to capture latent fingerprints on non-porous surfaces like glass, plastic, etc.

The inventor of cyanoacrylates, Harry Coover, said in 1966 that a superglue spray was used in the Vietnam war to retard bleeding in the wounded, whilst they were being transported to hospital. As it can irritate the skin, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration did not approve superglue's civilian medical use until 1998 when a variant called 2-octyl-cyanoacrylate was developed.

Some glues, e.g. Super glue and Krazy glue, are believed to be 100% ethyl cyanoacrylate. Other glues may be a composition, e.g. 91% ECA, 9% poly(methyl methacrylate), <0.5% hydroquinone, and a small amount of organic sulfonic acid. [

Toxicity
The fumes from CA are a vaporized form of the cyanoacrylate monomer that irritate sensitive membranes in the eyes, nose and throat. They are immediately polymerized by the moisture in the membranes and become inert. These risks can be minimized by using CA in well ventilated areas. About 5% of the population can become sensitized to CA fumes after repeated exposure, resulting in flu-like symptoms.[5] It may also act as a skin irritant and may cause an allergic skin reaction. The ACGIH assign a Threshold Limit Value exposure limit of 200 parts per billion. On rare occasions inhalation may trigger asthma.

The United States National Toxicology Program and the United Kingdom Health and Safety Executive [both appear to be gubermint ass clowns.....] have concluded that the use of ethyl cyanoacrylate is safe [WHAT.....] and that additional study is unnecessary.[6]

wirenut
05-25-2009, 04:34 PM
http://www.healingfoodreference.com/index.html

You might find that helpful, just adding foods that fight asthma to your diet could alleviate some attacks or symptoms?

Wow, thanks for the link. Really helpful.

LittleLightShining
05-26-2009, 06:00 AM
I couldn't resist posting this. YouTube - hand me my inhaler video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RZLzCo5KMQ)