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damania
05-04-2009, 06:15 PM
Here is the email I received a few days ago from Cindy Sheehan. Her website is CindySheehansSoapbox.com (http://CindySheehansSoapbox.com):

May 2, 2009

Dear Friend,

It is so hard for me to ask for help.

My campaign for Congress against Nancy Pelosi may have been a naïve attempt to buck the fraudulent "two" party system and to get someone from SF8 in the House of Representatives that was actually from and for the people, but it was an honest attempt made with the best of intentions and the purest progressive platform from any of the candidates.

We did so many things right and I achieved ballot access against all of the odds, but the system is stacked against challengers or independent/3rd party candidates. If you don't have a trust fund, a political machine behind you or a wealthy husband, getting a place at our nation's political table is nearly impossible.

Since my son died, contrary to what people on the political right, or center have said, I have not done anything to benefit myself. I have not "used Casey's death" to enrich myself. Any money I received in insurance benefits from his death, or any money I earned from book fees or speaking engagements were almost all invested back into the movement for peace and justice, except for my minimal living expenses.

I find myself now in a financial jam along with many of you. During the campaign I went for about 9 months without a paycheck and my speaking agent dumped me because she was afraid of federal retribution. Campaigning is a full-time job, anyway, so a paying job is just not practical. I scrimped and used all of my savings and ran up my visa to the limit to be able to survive until I was able to be paid by the campaign beginning in August after I achieved ballot and oficial candidate status.

However, unbeknownst to me, I was supposed to stop getting a paycheck from the campaign as soon as the election happened (On November, as if the work ends on that day!) but my campaign committee kept paying me, now according to the FEC (Federal Elections Commission), I owe the campaign almost 10,000.00 or will be faced with civil/criminal penalties if I don't pay that money back.

I don't even have an extra 10.00 to give back to the campaign.

My book tour has been great at helping me pay my minimal personal expenses and I am still working really hard for peace and justice (I am writing from Madison, Wi, today). I have been working about 18 hours per day writing, traveling, speaking, doing clerical tasks, and trying to build the communities that we need to strengthen ourselves to be able to survive and thrive through these Robber Class nightmares

For the rest of the summer, I will be visiting about 24 more cities on my Myth America book tour and that tour is paying for itself from generous donations along the way. A seed was planted here in Madison yesterday to have some kind of mass protest in Dallas on August 6 (Hiroshima day and the first day I went to Crawford in 2005) to gather in front of the Bush's new place and try to "citizen's arrest" George Bush.

I cannot pay back the campaign myself, and I can't afford the fines the FEC will levy against me (am already dealing with a 10,000 fine levied against the campaign this week), nor do I want to go to Federal prison (for this), so I am reluctantly and with humility asking for your help. This nightmare has been personal, but the struggle is communal. Ironically, if I am able to pay the campaign back for my salary, which the FEC deems, "Personal use," I will be able to pay the 10,000 fine levied against the campaign.

I have given so much to this country, my son, my health, my money, my relationships, and I don't ask for much back.

Notwithstanding the exclusivity of the 18th Century language of the above quote from Thomas Paine, I am not a "Sunshine Patriot" and I am committed to doing everything in my capacity to fight for and with my fellow humans in this struggle to attain peace, justice, economic equality, environmental sustainability, and security for all, not just the Robber Class.

Paypal: Cindy@CindySheehansSoapbox.com
Check: (mail to):
Cindy Sheehan
55 Chumasero Dr. Ste 5D
San Franscisco, CA. 94132
Credit card: (On website) CindySheehansSoapbox.com (http://CindySheehansSoapbox.com)

Thank you,
Love & Peace
Cindy

Who else is going to go up against that hack Nancy Pelosi? Who's values are inline with your values? Who's anti-war, anti-FED, anti-patriot act, anti-bailout? Who's fighting for you? Cindy Sheehan.

Once again, her website is CindySheehansSoapbox.com (http://CindySheehansSoapbox.com):

mport1
05-04-2009, 06:34 PM
Why would we want to help Cindy Sheehan?

Her Issues (http://www.cindyforcongress.org/article.php?list=type&type=13)

damania
05-04-2009, 06:45 PM
Why would we want to help Cindy Sheehan?

Her Issues (http://www.cindyforcongress.org/article.php?list=type&type=13)

She's anti-war, anti-FED, anti-patriot act, anti-bailout, and anti-empire. I really don't care about any other issues.

Here she is at a End The Fed rally:
YouTube - End the Fed: Cindy Sheehan Speaks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uscl4WSChU)

mport1
05-04-2009, 07:09 PM
She's anti-war, anti-FED, anti-patriot act, anti-bailout, and anti-empire. I really don't care about any other issues.


Nationalization of energy companies, living wage, universal healthcare, more regulation and taxes, "free" college education, and affordable housing are all way too big of issues to be ignored.

Original_Intent
05-04-2009, 07:14 PM
She brags about having the most pure progressive platform.

No thanks. I am sure that she would be a huge improvement over Pelosi, but that goes for 50% of the inmates of mental institutions, and 99.99999999999% of everyone else.

BenIsForRon
05-04-2009, 07:22 PM
Ok guys, I don't think some of you understand what a revolution is all about. Just because someone disagrees with you on philosophy of governance, doesn't mean they can't be your ally when it comes to kicking the fascists out. So lighten up and embrace people joining our causes, convincing them about the merits of small government comes later.

nate895
05-04-2009, 07:22 PM
She wants to End the Fed so Congress can take over the printing press and not even have the pretense of checks on monetary expansion for increased spending.

nate895
05-04-2009, 07:23 PM
Ok guys, I don't think some of you understand what a revolution is all about. Just because someone disagrees with you on philosophy of governance, doesn't mean they can't be your ally when it comes to kicking the fascists out. So lighten up and embrace people joining our causes, convincing them about the merits of small government comes later.

By supporting, you consent. I refuse to consent to most of her platform, and for the other ones it is for entirely different reasons. I am not going to kick out fascists to replace them with socialists.

BenIsForRon
05-04-2009, 07:27 PM
I'm not saying you should give her money, just lighten up on the aggressive talk. We need progressives on our side, then we can be even more effective than we have been so far.

angelatc
05-04-2009, 07:32 PM
I feel for her, but I have limited resources too.

speciallyblend
05-04-2009, 07:53 PM
Nationalization of energy companies, living wage, universal healthcare, more regulation and taxes, "free" college education, and affordable housing are all way too big of issues to be ignored.

the same question could be asked of me and you on why we support the scum party oops i meant the gop.

you guys ask me to swallow my thoughts on many issues in the gop and i do, so why can't you swallow some of cindys crap like i have to swallow the gop crap!!

i am against religious hypocrites. i am against war, i am for gay marriage. i am for straight marriage. i am against the right wing of the gop and the old guard. I am for other peoples beliefs even if i am against them. the gop is against most of what i believe in, yet i am a republican.

Cindy is good in my book,does more then most bitching about things in this forum!!!

the problem with the gop is they do not follow what they preach. the fact is most of the republicans issues like gay marriage and many more mean nothing if you truly believe in the us constitution. for the gop everything is ok as long as it is what they believe and no one else. the gop platform should read: we believe in our liberty no one elses.

fletcher
05-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Sheehan is anti-liberty. Why would anyone here give her any money? Why can't she get a job like everyone else? I'm sure there are plenty of liberals that would be glad to offer her a good paying job.

LBennett76
05-04-2009, 08:14 PM
I disagree with more of her stances than I agree. As a single mom who works and goes to college and makes $10k a year (the amount she wants), she truly isn't worth a penny of my money. Give me someone who's worth my giving even 2 cents towards... another Ron Paul type perhaps.

mport1
05-04-2009, 08:36 PM
the same question could be asked of me and you on why we support the scum party oops i meant the gop.

you guys ask me to swallow my thoughts on many issues in the gop and i do, so why can't you swallow some of cindys crap like i have to swallow the gop crap!!

I do not, have never, and will never support the GOP.

speciallyblend
05-04-2009, 09:36 PM
I do not, have never, and will never support the GOP.

hehe i hear you:) I only joined the gop because of ron paul and his message.
I have hope we can retake the gop,but in colorado,i think it is best to unite the voting block that showed up to our tea party. If we can do this, then the gop either embraces us or in 2010/2012 we take our voting block and form a new coalition in colorado. with the gop or without them!!

we might need to put the cogop on the endangered species list!!

OptionsTrader
05-04-2009, 09:42 PM
I have the word "donate" flagged as an email rule to send emails like that begging for money straight to the trashcan.

If someone deserves my donation, I will be the one being proactive.

Oyate
05-04-2009, 10:09 PM
She's anti-war, anti-FED, anti-patriot act, anti-bailout, and anti-empire. I really don't care about any other issues.

Here she is at a End The Fed rally: (link deleted for brevity)

I'm the one who invited her to the SanFran ETF rally and she graciously accepted when I pointed out that none of us have a monopoly on the truth. I understand from our RTR people out there as well as the live, continuous coverage we provided on that day at RTRRadio.com that the event went sensationally.

My objective for inviting Cindy was so that we could meet the left and join with them on issues we agree upon. This worked well. See, we're not good at communicating to the left. Cindy is (obviously).

Being alienated and scorned by the left, ACORN and the democratic party has obviously effected Cindy quite deeply. In some ways we've helped protect and support her. So now she sees us as friends.

I'm not gonna kick her out of our bed, I'm going to give her what contribution I can along with a personal note of encouragement.

HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM THOSE OF YOU WHO ATTACK HER HERE. DID YOU ATTACK BECK, HANNITY AND O'REILY WHEN THOSE FASCIST NEOCON TRASHHEADS CO-OPTED TEAPARTY?

IF NOT, THEN YOU DEMONSTRATE YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF HALF OUR OPPOSITION.

What nation did Cindy say we should attack?
Whom did Cindy recommend we waterboard and torture?
When did Cindy support the rights-robbing patriot act?
When did Cindy support the FED?
When did Cindy support bailouts?

The answers for Cindy are none, nobody, never, never and never respectively. It's not a record her public detractors can live up to if they had 1000 lives.

damania
05-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Cindy Sheehan is like the west coast Dennis Kucinich to me. I know there's a lot of detractors that won't support either because they're spenders and taxers. However, I bet both would support a balanced budget act and a freeze on tax hikes unlike most of the current conservative batch out there.

There are good, genuine, yet rare folks out there like Cindy and Dennis that I would be happy to represent me.

mport1
05-05-2009, 01:19 AM
I prefer no taxes and no budget and significant moves towards these goals :)

Hamer
05-05-2009, 07:38 AM
Ok guys, I don't think some of you understand what a revolution is all about. Just because someone disagrees with you on philosophy of governance, doesn't mean they can't be your ally when it comes to kicking the fascists out. So lighten up and embrace people joining our causes, convincing them about the merits of small government comes later.

The problem is to kick one facist out and replace them with another not so harmful facist is not the answer. We need to be careful who we support and that is why we have started www.retakecongress.com so we can pick the right candidates that will follow our platform. I do agree that we don't have to agree we don't even have to like each other although we need to work together to fix this country.

Our candidates are signing legal contracts that will force them to resign (If the win ) should they waiver from our platform or the United States Constitution. This way we know exactly what people to support.

brandon
05-05-2009, 08:05 AM
So Cindy Sheehan didn't have a real job for over a year, ran up her credit card real high and is now begging for help?

surprise surprise.

This is why people that have not had a successful career should not run for congress(Adam Kokesh)

You have to be independently wealthy (Paul, Paul, Lawson, Sabrin, Ventura, Schiff, ....) before you consider taking off of work for over a year to campaign. You're a fool if you have no savings and think you can do something like this and just live on donations.

acptulsa
05-05-2009, 08:16 AM
Cindy Sheehan is like the west coast Dennis Kucinich to me. I know there's a lot of detractors that won't support either because they're spenders and taxers. However, I bet both would support a balanced budget act and a freeze on tax hikes unlike most of the current conservative batch out there.

There are good, genuine, yet rare folks out there like Cindy and Dennis that I would be happy to represent me.

Besides, who else could possibly beat Pelosi in her extremely liberal district? And how much cheering would happen on this forum if Pelosi were defeated--and not only defeated, but defeated by a much poorer candidate in a primary?!


You have to be independently wealthy (Paul, Paul, Lawson, Sabrin, Ventura, Schiff, ....) before you consider taking off of work for over a year to campaign. You're a fool if you have no savings and think you can do something like this and just live on donations.

That's the conventional wisdom, all right. Wonder why normal working stiffs feel like they have no representation in Congress?

constituent
05-05-2009, 01:03 PM
Besides, who else could possibly beat Pelosi in her extremely liberal district? And how much cheering would happen on this forum if Pelosi were defeated--and not only defeated, but defeated by a much poorer candidate in a primary?!



That's the conventional wisdom, all right. Wonder why normal working stiffs feel like they have no representation in Congress?

because they don't.

electing working stiffs won't help with that either.

klamath
05-05-2009, 01:31 PM
Didn't know that when the election was over your candidacy is over and you don't take the money you raised for a campaign and spend it on yourself? What a joke! That is just the kind of person I want to spend money to send to congress.:rolleyes:

steph3n
05-05-2009, 05:23 PM
wow I can't stand listening to her voice.

speciallyblend
05-05-2009, 05:57 PM
So Cindy Sheehan didn't have a real job for over a year, ran up her credit card real high and is now begging for help?

surprise surprise.

This is why people that have not had a successful career should not run for congress(Adam Kokesh)

You have to be independently wealthy (Paul, Paul, Lawson, Sabrin, Ventura, Schiff, ....) before you consider taking off of work for over a year to campaign. You're a fool if you have no savings and think you can do something like this and just live on donations.

wtf are you talking about? adam kokesh is perfect to run for office. please support your accusations with facts!!

brandon
05-05-2009, 06:02 PM
wtf are you talking about? adam kokesh is perfect to run for office. please support your accusations with facts!!

The only "accusation" I made was that he has not had a lucrative career and I doubt he has enough money to cover his expenses during a congressional campaign.

There's other reasons I don't think he should run for office, but I'm trying to keep that to myself. I don't want to be a downer.

mczerone
05-05-2009, 06:06 PM
Ok guys, I don't think some of you understand what a revolution is all about. Just because someone disagrees with you on philosophy of governance, doesn't mean they can't be your ally when it comes to kicking the fascists out. So lighten up and embrace people joining our causes, convincing them about the merits of small government comes later.

If they are coming to 'our' philosophy, they should be supporting 'our' candidates until they get the whole picture. Otherwise, it's just us compromising to whatever her ideals are at the moment.

/and from the look at her platform, I'd rather not support someone who wants to make that many promises.

Bill M DC
05-07-2009, 08:38 AM
She has been an ally of Adam Kokesh and IVAW/VFP. I don't agree with much of her platform but she has been a key figure in the fight to end the occupations. If you donate, she's not going to get elected for anything and you are, in essence, retroactively support her in her campaign against the military industrial complex. She deserves, for all she has done and personal sacrifice, any help that may come her way.

CUnknown
05-07-2009, 09:50 AM
Besides, who else could possibly beat Pelosi in her extremely liberal district? And how much cheering would happen on this forum if Pelosi were defeated--and not only defeated, but defeated by a much poorer candidate in a primary?!

Dude, you wouldn't be happy if Pelosi was defeated by an anti-war candidate? I'd be ecstatic. This is Pelosi we're talking about... that would be huge!

But, yeah, I'm not giving Sheehan any money either. I'm glad she ran, but my political donation budget is going to Liberty candidates for 2010.

It would be nice if someone did give her money, though.