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Don't Tread on Mike
05-04-2009, 06:38 AM
Will the sheeple continue to think that Obama will save them? I continue to have hope for America but I think after these 4 years of hell another 4 years would be a bigger disaster than Katrina.

acptulsa
05-04-2009, 06:41 AM
Zero. The Chinese have stopped buying our debt. His borrow and spend philosophy is about to cease to be an option, and I sincerely doubt he has anything--anything--else up his sleeve.

Our time is about to come. Hope we can rise to the occasion.

silverhawks
05-04-2009, 06:45 AM
Depends if you believe we'll have elections by 2012.

It should be pretty obvious by now exactly what the Federal government is planning - staged flu pandemic + martial law. Who knows how many will "die of the flu" in that time?

If by some miracle we get to 2012, then I would say Obama has 0% chance of re-election. Look at the huge swathes of his voters that he has pissed off in one way or another already by breaking his campaign promises and advancing Bush (read: NWO globalist) policies.

Kludge
05-04-2009, 06:53 AM
Very unlikely.

Many of the socialists I know are very disappointed in Obama's continued wars ("Terror" & "Drugs"), pro-corporation policies, and continuation of "free trade" with China & Mexico.

Oh -- and he still permits Walmart to exist.

It's interesting that the polls still show him having significant support.

GunnyFreedom
05-04-2009, 06:53 AM
25-50; people are far too susceptible to the media propaganda. Should be zero, but it will not be.

silverhawks
05-04-2009, 07:07 AM
It's interesting that the polls still show him having significant support.

YouTube - Penn and Teller Defend Ron Paul vs. Luntz and Fox News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4).

Say it with me: F U FRANK!!!

acptulsa
05-04-2009, 07:12 AM
25-50; people are far too susceptible to the media propaganda.

Hunger has a way of curing people of that. FDR could sell his b.s.--he inherited a country that had good credit.

Liberty Star
05-04-2009, 07:22 AM
Not looking good for him, his chances would only get worse if he kept playing a puppet for anti-American foreign lobbies.
How he handles aipac invasion of Washington next week will also determine his chances.

angelatc
05-04-2009, 08:04 AM
Will the sheeple continue to think that Obama will save them? I continue to have hope for America but I think after these 4 years of hell another 4 years would be a bigger disaster than Katrina.

Don't forget amnesty. He will give 40 million illegal immigrants voting rights before the next election.

slacker921
05-04-2009, 08:14 AM
Don't forget amnesty. He will give 40 million illegal immigrants voting rights before the next election.

Exactly.. and ...

- the GOP is self destructing. They still think gay marriage is the issue that will save them.
- the media is still owned by the same people and the media determines what the masses think.
- when the shtf in the middle east and he reacts like he's promised then the neoconservatives will jump for joy. Many of my Republican friends who hate his guts will vote for him if he follows through on his promises of "defending" Israel.
- same as above for terrorist attacks. If he's killing "Islamofascists" then the neocons will vote for him.

Ozwest
05-04-2009, 08:15 AM
After a 100 days? Bush looked like a champion after his first 100 days too.

tonesforjonesbones
05-04-2009, 08:23 AM
well...he is already putting the word out to his folks that he can't accomplish everything in one term. tones

akihabro
05-04-2009, 08:23 AM
51%-75%. A good statement from the Obama sheep is "give him a chance!" :rolleyes:
When he screws it all up after 4 years then he's going to spit some more lies out. The un-woken up sheep will forgive him even though they never really looked much farther into the sugar coating of his agenda. Hopefully we can work hard and educate the public. What is more scary another 4 years of him or the end of world as predicted by the Mayan calendar? (12-21-2012)

angelatc
05-04-2009, 08:27 AM
Exactly.. and ...

- the GOP is self destructing. They still think gay marriage is the issue that will save them.
- the media is still owned by the same people and the media determines what the

Well, I guess that might rule out a Romney / Huckabee ticket. Notice I said "might."

ChaosControl
05-04-2009, 08:36 AM
Depends on what kind of joke the GOP puts up.

Ozwest
05-04-2009, 08:42 AM
GOP. DEMS...

What's the difference?

sailor
05-04-2009, 09:20 AM
Sure he`s gonna have 4 bad years, but that didn`t stop Bush, now did it?

Ozwest
05-04-2009, 09:27 AM
Sure he`s gonna have 4 bad years, but that didn`t stop Bush, now did it?

And...

That's ok. with you?

On You Tube and various forums, Americans celebrate the anarchy of others, but continuously fail on their home ground.

When are you guys going to put up, or shut up?

ctiger2
05-04-2009, 09:36 AM
It's all going to depend on where we're at economically and if the other candidates are worth a damn.

acptulsa
05-04-2009, 09:38 AM
It's all going to depend on where we're at economically and if the other candidates are worth a damn.

Traditionally, it doesn't matter if the other candidate is Bonzo the Wonder Chimp--if the economy is in the crapper, the president goes. And I see no reason whatsoever to believe the economy won't be in the crapper.

Bradley in DC
05-04-2009, 09:48 AM
Six months is an eternity in political terms. A few years out? Crazy to speculate.

He Who Pawns
05-04-2009, 09:53 AM
His chances are good if the GOP keeps pushing their neocon-religious agenda.

If the GOP ran strictly on fiscal conservatism and maybe border enforcement, they would win.

Zippyjuan
05-04-2009, 11:37 AM
Way too early to possibly say. A lot can happen in the next three years. At this point, the Republicans seem to be pulling away from the middle which means they will be giving away the swing voters. They need to move MORE towards the middle-not away from it- if they expect to win the White House or even take back Congress. Not being Bush many have helped Obama but at this point not being Obama will not help the Republicans. Obama is much more liked than Bush was.

Golding
05-04-2009, 01:23 PM
100%. Realistically, the majority of people still wrongly believe that voting third party is throwing away your vote. Realistically, the GOP won't be able to come up with anyone who can match up to Obama's smooth talking, and realistically the GOP is going to still suffer from the stigma of Bush. Won't really matter if the dollar crashes under Obama, or even if Armageddon begins. He's savvy enough to talk his way out of things (and if all else fails, he'll blame Bush), and people will continue to buy it because he sounds so convincing.

I guarantee that no matter what shape the country is in, the rhetoric coming from the Democrats in 2012 will be "If Bush gets two terms, why shouldn't Obama?" People who can't distinguish a joke from a valid argument will be convinced enough by that alone.

nate895
05-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Sure he`s gonna have 4 bad years, but that didn`t stop Bush, now did it?

Different circumstances, people still supported the war and you don't "change horses midstream" as it were. Now that we are beyond that, war psychology isn't playing heavy on Americans minds right now.

Objectivist
05-04-2009, 02:49 PM
It depends on how many new voters ACORN digs up.
Maybe Obama's grandmother can vote again as a dead person?

nate895
05-04-2009, 02:53 PM
It depends on how many new voters ACORN digs up.
Maybe Obama's grandmother can vote again as a dead person?

See, the Obamassiah's Grandmother lives on as the highest saint in Heaven. She is entitled to vote in all democratic countries according to their laws.

Objectivist
05-04-2009, 03:02 PM
See, the Obamassiah's Grandmother lives on as the highest saint in Heaven. She is entitled to vote in all democratic countries according to their laws.

I don't wear rose colored glasses, so I don't see it that way.:D

LATruth
05-04-2009, 03:04 PM
I voted HIGH, most still believe he is the second coming. :(

nobody's_hero
05-04-2009, 03:14 PM
Very high. The Republican party will never get their shit together again, and it will take the Libertarian party a few terms to grow into a viable alternative to the Democratic leviathan.

LATruth
05-04-2009, 03:15 PM
2012 RAHM EMMANUEL FOR PREZ!!!! :mad:

Objectivist
05-04-2009, 03:17 PM
2012 RAHM EMMANUEL FOR PREZ!!!! :mad:

" Voilą! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V. "

LATruth
05-04-2009, 03:20 PM
" Voilą! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V. "

Probably the best response one could have ever hoped for regarding my post! :D

+1776

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+1605

anaconda
05-04-2009, 03:21 PM
Way way way way too early to tell.

libertarian4321
05-04-2009, 03:36 PM
Depends on what kind of joke the GOP puts up.

Exactly.

I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP nominated another anti-intellectual mental midget- Sarah Palin comes to mind- thus ensuring a Dem win.

What are the odds the GOP selects an intelligent candidate like Ron Paul? Not very good, I'm afraid.

sailor
05-04-2009, 04:47 PM
Different circumstances, people still supported the war and you don't "change horses midstream" as it were. Now that we are beyond that, war psychology isn't playing heavy on Americans minds right now.

As if you remember dude, what were you then? Twelwe? Bush was about the weakest incumbent ever. Thing was the Democrats couldn`t come up with anyone half presentable. John Kerry - what a born loser. Yeah, Obama is gonna be in the shitter. But who are the Republicans going to position against him? Jindal, Steele? Don`t make me laugh. Against that he just has to rally his base again.

Roosevelt served three terms, all in the middle of the greatest depression the US had ever seen. He just called on the corporatists, the unions and the statist crusaders and he was swimming. Bad economy can be good for your re-election. Provided it is bad enough, so you polarise the vote and get the larger, populist anti-buisiness share of it.

cindy25
05-04-2009, 11:23 PM
2012 RAHM EMMANUEL FOR PREZ!!!! :mad:

he already is

Brooklyn Red Leg
05-04-2009, 11:37 PM
My bet is that when Inflation reaches Hyperinflation levels, if we even HAVE elections, Obama wont be able to run for Dog Catcher. In a just world, every mutherfucker that voted for the Bailouts & Stimulus would be dragged from their offices and hung by their necks until dead.

LATruth
05-04-2009, 11:38 PM
My bet is that when Inflation reaches Hyperinflation levels, if we even HAVE elections, Obama wont be able to run for Dog Catcher. In a just world, every mutherfucker that voted for the Bailouts & Stimulus would be dragged from their offices and hung by their necks until dead.

Tell us how you really feel.

porcupine
05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
If you're accepting the American Public to wake up and start caring about their freedom, you are going to be very disappointed.

Objectivist
05-05-2009, 01:34 AM
See, the Obamassiah's Grandmother lives on as the highest saint in Heaven. She is entitled to vote in all democratic countries according to their laws.

But his brother lives in a hut, telling.

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
05-05-2009, 03:20 AM
I do not mean any offense by this but quite frankly he will retain at least 95% of the black vote and that alone gives him a damn good chance of being elected for a second term. Add that onto the growing number of people who think socialism is just grand and onto the illegals who keep pouring into this country who either vote already or who will soon be given legal voting rights when Obama grants them amnesty and you have a political shitstorm of epic proportions. Honestly, I have no idea how any true conservative is ever going to be elected in this country again but I have to keep trying.

All the left have to do is trot out someone who is ethnically correct, chants the same crap about hope and change ad naseum and who promises to continue the nanny state and they have a sure fire winner.

Objectivist
05-05-2009, 04:10 AM
Depends on the Bell Curve. If it slides to the right we'll be ok.

andrewh817
05-05-2009, 04:53 AM
At this point does it really even matter? The sovereignty of the US will be much worse in 4 years than it is now.

Natalie
05-05-2009, 07:23 AM
I hate to admit it, but I think he will be re-elected again.

Captain Bryan
05-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Ben Bernanke 2012!
:(

LATruth
05-05-2009, 04:55 PM
Ben Bernanke 2012!
:(

oh fuck no :mad:

constituent
05-05-2009, 05:01 PM
Traditionally, it doesn't matter if the other candidate is Bonzo the Wonder Chimp--if the economy is in the crapper, the president goes. And I see no reason whatsoever to believe the economy won't be in the crapper.

mark my words, it won't be.

LATruth
05-05-2009, 05:06 PM
mark my words, it won't be.

Correct, they will prop it up with more inflationary bubbles. Only this time the bubbles will be exponentially larger in scale.