First US Swine Flu Deaths! [UNCONFIRMED]

[UtahApocalypse]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/04/two-los-angeles-county-deaths-possibly-related-to-swine-flu-coroner-says.html



The Los Angeles County coroner's office is investigating two recent deaths that officials say could be related to the recent global swine flu outbreak. However, no tests have come back positive for the swine flu, and medical examiners have not officially determined what caused the deaths.

[Updated at 9:30 a.m.: Coroner's spokesman Craig Harvey said his office would collect specimens from the deceased and send them to the county public health department, which would determine whether either person died from the swine flu. If so, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would be notified, Harvey said.]

Coroner's spokesman Craig Harvey said Bellflower Medical Center reported the death of a 33-year Long Beach resident Monday afternoon from symptoms resembling swine flu.

"It's that diagnosis that needs to be confirmed," Harvey said. "An autopsy will be performed to establish the cause of death."

The man was taken to the hospital Saturday, complaining of shortness of breath and lymphoma. Doctors later diagnosed the patient with pneumonia, Harvey said.

The second case involves a 45-year-old man from La Mirada, whose death was reported Monday to the coroner's office. The man died April 22 at Coast Plaza Doctor's Hospital in Norwalk.

Doctors said the man died of pneumonia but the L.A. County Health Department refused to accept the death certificate signed by the private doctor, Harvey said. The case was then referred to the coroner's office, which will conduct further investigation.

If confirmed, the deaths would be the first reported in the United States from the swine flu.

-- Andrew Blankstein

[angelatc]

You really should have put "unconfirmed" in the title...

[UtahApocalypse]

You really should have put "unconfirmed" in the title...

The confirmation at this point is a matter of protocol. Would you like to live in LA and not know of the possibility before you have been at work? school? stores? for two days with out knowing its even a possibility?

This coroner is a hero for not withholding information that could effect life and death decisions in a huge city.

[Bruno]

You really should have put "unconfirmed" in the title...

Agreed:

However, no tests have come back positive for the swine flu, and medical examiners have not officially determined what caused the deaths.

[Johnnybags]

What one would expect if this is the 1918 version or close. Of course unconfirmed. Pneumonia is the killer.


I expect the young and old to be least effected. They will get it but will not die from it.

[UtahApocalypse]

Second LA News article:

http://www.ktla.com/landing_topstories/?Two-Possible-Swine-Flu-Deaths-Probed-in-=1&blockID=277903&feedID=1198

[slacker921]

dumbass on CNN a little while ago showed a map of the coverage of the 1918 flu across the US.. . then showed the current map with only a few dots on it ... they were trying to say this isn't the same as the 1918 pandemic. Did he tell people that the 1918 flu started in March and didn't cause widespread deaths for months? Nope.

[sevin]

Thousands of people with flu-like symptoms die every year. Are we all going to freak out now every time someone gets the flu?

[acptulsa]

Thousands of people with flu-like symptoms die every year. Are we all going to freak out now every time someone gets the flu?

Of course! The MSM has much to distract our attention away from, so they'll be milking it good and hard.

[JoshLowry]

Thousands of people with flu-like symptoms die every year. Are we all going to freak out now every time someone gets the flu?

QFT.

36k die every year in the US.

http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/r030107.htm




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[Original_Intent]

Quit with the GD sensationalism already.

[pacelli]

Thousands of people with flu-like symptoms die every year. Are we all going to freak out now every time someone gets the flu?

No kidding. Prolonged exposure to chronic stress leads to a depletion of stress hormones and can cause a significant loss of health.

[UtahApocalypse]

QFT.

36k die every year in the US.

http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/r030107.htm

(Stop talking about torture, Stop talking about torture, Stop talking about torture.)

Normally it only kills elderly, young, or ill. This has kille persopns aged 20-40 which makes it comparable to the 1918 pandemic.


Also BREAKING NEWS: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/national/6396774.html


NEW YORK — New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says two people are hospitalized with suspected swine flu.

City Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden also said Tuesday that "many hundreds" of schoolchildren are sick with suspected cases of swine flu.

Bloomberg says the hospitalizations are separate from the outbreak at a private school in Queens.

If they are found to be swine flu they would be the first in the U.S. connected to the outbreak.

The mayor says the hospitalized are a child in the Bronx and an adult in Brooklyn.

The U.S. has more than 60 reported cases of swine flu, mostly in New York City. The sickness has killed dozens in Mexico.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

You all can think this is no big deal, feel free to go to some crowded places, next week you may see clearer

[Original_Intent]

Are you trying to gin up mass hysteria? Making poeple aware is one thing, but the entire tone of some people who seem to want panic in the streets is ridiculous.

[slacker921]

"The WHO raised its global pandemic alert yesterday, saying the disease is no longer containable and it’s time to prepare for outbreaks." source (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRpQ62giA1uM&refer=home)

[StilesBC]

"The WHO raised its global pandemic alert yesterday, saying the disease is no longer containable and it’s time to prepare for outbreaks." source (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRpQ62giA1uM&refer=home)

The WHO isn't exactly what I would consider a reliable source...

If you're scared, stay away from large groups of people and keep your immune system in top shape.

Chances are this is nothing to be freaked out about...

[Original_Intent]

I have heard that having a strong immune system is not advantageous. Something about how it hits people with strong immune systems harder.

[zach]

qft.

36k die every year in the us.

http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/r030107.htm




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qft.

[angelatc]

I have heard that having a strong immune system is not advantageous. Something about how it hits people with strong immune systems harder.

That was true of the 1918 flu, but they haven't enough data to assume that the pathology of this strain will act in a similar manner.

There's not much sense in fear mongering. It is logical to assume that everybody who gets the sniffles is going to assume they have swine flu, and of course the media will be happy to accommodate them because their ratings go up during crises.

[Annihilia]

Using medical data from 1918 to justify causing panic and government mobilization in the present is absolutely ridiculous. 1918 is barely a stone's throw away from an era in which the germ theory of disease was considered controversial..

[anaconda]

False flag flu. You are either with us or the viruses.

[literatim]

It is the people underestimating this disease that will be responsible for the government using it to take more power. If people would take it serious and do everything they can to not get infected, it wouldn't spread like wildfire and there would be no need for the government to do anything.

[Smoke the Liberty Tree]

The confirmation at this point is a matter of protocol. Would you like to live in LA and not know of the possibility before you have been at work? school? stores? for two days with out knowing its even a possibility?

This coroner is a hero for not withholding information that could effect life and death decisions in a huge city.

No he/she is an idiot. The news is already causing enough panic, the last thing a large city like LA needs to hear is that two of their citizens are the first to die from it in the U.S. Their is a reason why they try to make confirmations before any information is released. So that their is no mass panic, riot, etc. Very stupid idea to release that info and i think he/she should be relieved of the position, or at least suspended.

[Roxi]

coroners are often paid off.... just sayin