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Reason
04-24-2009, 04:52 AM
Pelosi says "We Were Not! I Repeat NOT EVER TOLD Waterboarding Was Used!"


YouTube - We Were Not! I Repeat NOT EVER TOLD Waterboarding Was Used! Nancy Pelosi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1635icvGnjo)

Reason
04-24-2009, 04:54 AM
I don't doubt that she was purposely kept out of the loop considering she is probably the last person Bush would want to hand so much political ammo to.

Objectivist
04-24-2009, 04:57 AM
As a Californian let me say..... SHE'S LYING!

Reason
04-24-2009, 05:01 AM
As a Californian let me say..... SHE'S LYING!

I don't think she would have a problem lying if she actually was told, I just think the Bush admin was probably smart enough to keep her out of the loop.

Johnnybags
04-24-2009, 05:14 AM
Waterboard Pelosi. Put the issue to rest.

Roxi
04-24-2009, 05:30 AM
really?
cuz the news told me we were using it, and that it wasn't torture

angelatc
04-24-2009, 05:41 AM
really?
cuz the news told me we were using it, and that it wasn't torture

That's what I thought too!

MsDoodahs
04-24-2009, 05:44 AM
really?
cuz the news told me we were using it, and that it wasn't torture

That is EXACTLY what I thought when I saw the thread title!

FrankRep
04-24-2009, 05:56 AM
Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002
In Meetings, Spy Panels' Chiefs Did Not Protest, Officials Say

Washington Post
December 9, 2007

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.
...

SOURCE:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html

AuH20
04-24-2009, 06:10 AM
If the meeting minutes ever emerge, Pelosi is screwed. what a political hack! She and Graham knew everything that was going on and they didn't care.

Bern
04-24-2009, 06:13 AM
Pelosi thinks you are all sleep walking idiots.

klamath
04-24-2009, 08:37 AM
Pelosi says "We Were Not! I Repeat NOT EVER TOLD Waterboarding Was Used!"


YouTube - We Were Not! I Repeat NOT EVER TOLD Waterboarding Was Used! Nancy Pelosi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1635icvGnjo)

Bush said he wasn't either :rolleyes:

Freedom 4 all
04-24-2009, 02:53 PM
How the fuck did she not know when I fucking knew about it and I'm just some random dude? She's the freaking house majority leader.

StayTrue
04-24-2009, 03:17 PM
lol she can't even talk right...

"we were not, i repeat, we (stutter) not told...."

Objectivist
04-24-2009, 06:37 PM
This started in 1995 under Clinton, so all these assholes knew. Now they can have a shredding party and remove any files that damage their image. Kinda like YouTube removing all the Obama videos that hurt his image.

Objectivist
04-24-2009, 06:38 PM
lol she can't even talk right...

"we were not, i repeat, we (stutter) not told...."

If you want to know when and how Pelosi is lying, all you have to do is listen to her speak, ABOUT ANYTHING.

Deborah K
04-24-2009, 06:47 PM
".....they could be used, but not that they would be used" huh? WTF is the difference???

"We could use waterboarding Ms. Pelosi." "Okay."

OR

"What do you mean you could use waterboarding???? NO WAY, I do NOT approve of such a thing!!"

Objectivist
04-24-2009, 07:09 PM
YouTube - Waterboarding Saves Lives... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvC-GmJLYXo)

sarahgop
04-24-2009, 07:13 PM
pelosi should be put on trial

Objectivist
04-24-2009, 07:16 PM
pelosi should be put on trial

I'll second that.

amy31416
04-24-2009, 09:05 PM
Haven't we all known that our gov't was torturing since around 2006? And we're regular citizens.

She's a lying, disgusting, spineless POS. Get her the F out of our gov't. No more excuses, especially not ridiculous ones.

Brooklyn Red Leg
04-24-2009, 09:50 PM
If y'all think that fugly twat is gonna get prosecuted, you're wrong. The Democrats are already circling the wagons and their goddamn cheerleaders at places like the douchebag HuffingtonPost, DailyKos and other assorter apologist assholes are acting like this is not a crime when it was commited by Democrats. Just as these disgusting thugs excused Clinton for the murders of the Branch Davidians at Waco, they will prevent any sort of meaningful investigation into this.

thasre
04-24-2009, 10:11 PM
youtube - waterboarding saves lives... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvc-gmjlyxo)

ho

ly

shit.

idiom
04-24-2009, 10:14 PM
I knew you were using it and I live in a different country.

This is like the "We never imagined people could use planes as weapons".

They are relying on the US populace having a one month memory.

thasre
04-24-2009, 10:17 PM
I actually have to say I think she's not quite lying. It sounds to me that what the situation was is that during a briefing session the waterboarding and other interrogation techniques issues were brought up as techniques that could potentially be used, but them I'm sure it was said "Oh, but only in a ticking bomb situation and we'll be sure to inform you if we ever do need to use it."

And then if anyone raised an objection, I'm sure it was poo-pooed with a "Well we've received legal counsel from a number of sources informing us that we can do this" and then that was the end of what they were informed of. The committee still should have been more vigilant I'm sure, but I tend to trust that Pelosi's hands really were tied and that whatever information she received was probably misleading or understated.

And I'm usually the last person to put ANY faith in Nancy Pe-friggin-losi.

idiom
04-24-2009, 10:25 PM
Unless popular opinion decides that water-boarding was a good thing. Then suddenly it would have been her idea in the first place.

ChickenHawk
04-24-2009, 10:39 PM
It's amazing how spinless these people are. The fact is most Americans don't give a damn that a few alleged terrorist where water boarded. I bet most Americans don't even consider it torture. I don't even think most people who have been water boared think it's torture. I don't see a political cost to coming out and saying "I knew about it and I don't care".

Objectivist
04-25-2009, 03:02 AM
ho

ly

shit.

Seems that the censors are at work over at Obamas YouTube. Actually you can always find Bob in my signature, enjoy.

Objectivist
04-25-2009, 03:17 AM
Haven't we all known that our gov't was torturing since around 2006? And we're regular citizens.

She's a lying, disgusting, spineless POS. Get her the F out of our gov't. No more excuses, especially not ridiculous ones.

I'll say it again, Clinton started rendition and waterboarding in 1995.

Dianne
04-25-2009, 07:39 AM
Of course they knew everything. Heck, I knew about it by watching CNN ....and you know they covered up 90% of the story.