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Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 02:32 PM
I just heard today that Fox news talking head Sean Hannity had volunteered himself to be subjected to enhanced interrogation teachniques for some charity?
Any one watched his show can confirm if that's true?

If this is true, that charity could end making a lot of money if Hannity realy subjected himself to enhanced interrogation techniques like these.

http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2007/06/08/DVD-abu-ghraibx.jpg

http://www.internationalist.org/iraqtorturecdogs.jpg

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/waterboard6.jpg

torchbearer
04-23-2009, 02:34 PM
I bet it will be a watered down version. They won't actually do the real deal.

sdczen
04-23-2009, 02:38 PM
I hope they ask him about him beating his wife and doing naughty things to animals. I can pretty much guarantee you that he'll be singing like a songbird even if he has never done any of these things.

angelatc
04-23-2009, 02:41 PM
I guess he thinks that since he braved the snowball gauntlet, he's ready for anything.

Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Watered down, was pun intedned : -) ?


Even if he did go through enhanced interro techqniques AND confessed to this, would any US court uphold those confessions?

This could be a can of worms.

Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 02:51 PM
I guess he thinks that since he braved the snowball gauntlet, he's ready for anything.


If Rudy, Levine or Savage joined in on this charity gig idea, could this group interro be seen by charity sponsors also?

Caution, graphic group torture pic:

http://mwcnews.net/images/stories/Abuse/Abu-Ghraib-Torture1.jpg

Minarchy4Sale
04-23-2009, 02:51 PM
This is like cops saying its okay for them to taser you repeatedly without consent because they got a 1 second jolt. Ill agree to cops using tasers in anything but a self defense capacity when they agree to let someone break into their house at random, scream at them, and then taser them for repeatedly for 5 minutes in front of their kids if they dont move to comply fast enough.

rpfan2008
04-23-2009, 02:53 PM
How about getting his cheeks sewed down by a string?!! That was done too.

Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 02:59 PM
How about getting his cheeks sewed down by a string?!! That was done too.

Didn't know that. That's not even on the list of enhanced interro techniques authorized by top Bush men (and a woman):



Torture techniques endorsed by the Bush administration

Bush administration gave the go ahead to several methods of interrogation
Ewen MacAskill in Washington

guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 April 2009 18.58 BST

Waterboarding: Detainee placed on a board with his head lying downwards. The memos say: "A cloth is placed over his face on which cold water is then poured for periods of at most 40 seconds. This creates a barrier through which it is either difficult or impossible to breathe. The technique thereby induces a sensation of drowning."

Walling: The detainee is slammed into a wall. "Walling is performed by placing the detainee against what seems to be a normal wall but is in fact a flexible false wall. The interrogator pulls the detaineee towards him and then quickly slams the detainee against the false wall." The false wall exaggerates the sound, making the contact apparently sound worse than it is.


Nudity: "Nudity is used to induce psychological discomfort and because it allows interrogators to reward *detainees instantly with clothing for co-operation


Slaps: "With the facial slap or insult slap, the interrogator slaps the individual's face with fingers slightly spread. The hand makes contact with the area directly between the tip of the individual's chin and the bottom of the corresponding earlobe." The abdominal slap is delivered in the same way, but to the stomach.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/17/torture-methods-interrogation-george-bush-approved


Sean Hannity will have to be a maga Bush/Cheney policies supporter to subject himself to these though.

ItsTime
04-23-2009, 03:07 PM
Kinky.

Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 03:12 PM
Kinky.


Can't believe you said that about Hannity's charity offer : -)



Slaps: "With the facial slap or insult slap, the interrogator slaps the individual's face with fingers slightly spread. The hand makes contact with the area directly between the tip of the individual's chin and the bottom of the corresponding earlobe." The abdominal slap is delivered in the same way, but to the stomach.

Anti Federalist
04-23-2009, 03:12 PM
Let me do it.

Please?

silverhawks
04-23-2009, 03:14 PM
Wait, no-one thinks its kind of sick for anyone to volunteer to be tortured for charity???

torchbearer
04-23-2009, 03:15 PM
Let me do it.

Please?

For a $500 dollar donation- you too can bring hannity to the point of almost drowning!
Headline news- Charity raises 2 trillion dollars in one day.

torchbearer
04-23-2009, 03:16 PM
Wait, no-one thinks its kind of sick for anyone to volunteer to be tortured for charity???

http://www.aparty4u.com/images/dunk_tank.jpg
Coming to a Festival near you.

rpfan2008
04-23-2009, 03:17 PM
Wait, no-one thinks its kind of sick for anyone to volunteer to be tortured for charity???


No.

When it's Hannity.

Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Wait, no-one thinks its kind of sick for anyone to volunteer to be tortured for charity???

For a normal, decent human being, it would be pretty sick to try to pull a stunt like that "for charity".



Let me do it.

Please?

You should start getting in touch with the "charities" in Fauxville : )

Anti Federalist
04-23-2009, 03:18 PM
For a $500 dollar donation- you too can bring hannity to the point of almost drowning!
Headline news- Charity raises 2 trillion dollars in one day.

Oh gawd I ROFLed.:D:D:D:D

Liberty Star
04-23-2009, 03:26 PM
For a $500 dollar donation- you too can bring hannity to the point of almost drowning!
Headline news- Charity raises 2 trillion dollars in one day.

This proves that great budget deficit ( helped in part by faux cheerleaders like Hannity) is not insurmountable LOL

JdotRdot
04-23-2009, 04:29 PM
Didn't know that. That's not even on the list of enhanced interro techniques authorized by top Bush men (and a woman):


isn't like half of the memo still classified & top secret??

Athan
04-23-2009, 05:34 PM
No.

When it's Hannity.

Yeah, he may get his jollies from it.

dannno
04-23-2009, 05:39 PM
How is this the same???

The whole point of torture is that it hurts, and you don't know if you are going to live or die, or if the torture will get so bad it will be worse than death.

Hannity is just going to be experiencing the "hurt" part, knowing full well that he will be going home to his family that night.

klamath
04-23-2009, 07:04 PM
I have to say this folks, just the snickering talk of wanting to be the one to torture Hannity is really defeating any moral arguement you have against him. Just because you feel he is your enemy you are thinking it is funny to subject him to torture? Sometimes my fellow patriots make me very sad.

torchbearer
04-23-2009, 07:05 PM
I have to say this folks, just the snickering talk of wanting to be the one to torture Hannity is really defeating any moral arguement you have against him. Just because you feel he is your enemy you are thinking it is funny to subject him to torture? Sometimes my fellow patriots make me very sad.

a lesson in empathy isn't a bad thing. :cool:

Original_Intent
04-23-2009, 07:23 PM
How is this the same???

The whole point of torture is that it hurts, and you don't know if you are going to live or die, or if the torture will get so bad it will be worse than death.

Hannity is just going to be experiencing the "hurt" part, knowing full well that he will be going home to his family that night.

Yep. Totally different when you can say you have had enough, and you KNOW you can say when you have had enough.

OptionsTrader
04-23-2009, 07:29 PM
I've got the cell number of a dominatrix he might want to call.

A. Havnes
04-23-2009, 08:15 PM
You know, if he does this, he'll come back saying that it's not that bad. However, both the interrogators and Hannity know full well that what he'll experience is only momentary discomfort. He has the luxury of knowing that he'll go home safe and sound, and I'll bet all the procedures are explained to him beforehand so that he won't go through the psychological trauma of an actual detainee. All safety precautions will be in place, etc.

This is little more than a show, and is of little value scientifically.

Liberty Star
04-24-2009, 03:35 PM
I've got the cell number of a dominatrix he might want to call.

Who knows, some other Faux torture cheerleaders may also volunteer their services for "charity".

Freedom 4 all
04-24-2009, 04:54 PM
LMAO Keith Olbermann is paying $1000 per second Hannity undergoes. Now there's some money well spent.

http://www.wowowow.com/politics/olbermann-pony-big-money-every-second-hannity-waterboarded-video-276465

carlangaslangas
04-24-2009, 08:35 PM
Yep. Totally different when you can say you have had enough, and you KNOW you can say when you have had enough.

Right. That's why it should be Alan Colmes waterboarding him. :D

Liberty Star
04-25-2009, 11:37 AM
You know, if he does this, he'll come back saying that it's not that bad. However, both the interrogators and Hannity know full well that what he'll experience is only momentary discomfort. He has the luxury of knowing that he'll go home safe and sound, and I'll bet all the procedures are explained to him beforehand so that he won't go through the psychological trauma of an actual detainee. All safety precautions will be in place, etc.

This is little more than a show, and is of little value scientifically.


If they brought in dogs to supplement nudity/stress positions test, they will be muzzled probably.

Good point.




LMAO Keith Olbermann is paying $1000 per second Hannity undergoes. Now there's some money well spent.

http://www.wowowow.com/politics/olbermann-pony-big-money-every-second-hannity-waterboarded-video-276465

Keith is all over this, he must know his offer wiill never be taken by Hannity.

Vet_from_cali
04-25-2009, 02:12 PM
oh please, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee torture that man


/pray

angelatc
04-25-2009, 03:21 PM
Let me do it.

Please?

Either you or Olbermann. If he's being "tortured" by somebody who isn't preceived as a real threat then the torture can't be compared.

Liberty Star
04-26-2009, 10:41 AM
If he's being "tortured" by somebody who isn't preceived as a real threat then the torture can't be compared.


True.

Liberty Star
04-27-2009, 08:41 PM
TPM on this stunt:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/ickyma/2009/04/waterboard-hannity-for-charity.php?ref=reccafe

Liberty Star
04-27-2009, 08:49 PM
Perhaps he should not volunteer for enhanced nudity, that may not be torture at all for him lol


http://www.peteykins.com/images/FarkDec03/Hannity.jpg

Liberty Star
04-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Interesting:


Waterboarding Sean Hannity

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/95799/Waterboarding_Sean_Hannity

Agent CSL
04-27-2009, 10:10 PM
I demand my wet, naked and spread eagle Sean Hannity. Preferably being chased by angry Ron Paulers.

Liberty Star
04-28-2009, 10:13 PM
LOL

Torture debate is getting bit personal between MSNBC-Faux talking heads:


Olbermann presses Hannity on his waterboard offer

By DAVID BAUDER – 4 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — The debate over torture is getting personal for two of cable TV's prime-time hosts. After Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity made a seemingly impromptu offer last week to undergo waterboarding as a benefit for charity, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann leapt at it. He offered $1,000 to the families of U.S. troops for every second Hannity withstood the technique.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jADf7Acwh1ozkVvkjNQ9dkk7GQuQD97RPCCO0

Liberty Star
04-29-2009, 10:29 AM
How is this the same???

The whole point of torture is that it hurts, and you don't know if you are going to live or die, or if the torture will get so bad it will be worse than death.

Hannity is just going to be experiencing the "hurt" part, knowing full well that he will be going home to his family that night.



Good point. But if he does go through with such an enhanced interrogation and someone took photos, him being in a nude rolled up ball with few other possible fox news pundit volunteers won't be just a short term event for him or his family?

They'll have those pictures or memory of enhanced techniques being tried on him forever.

Liberty Star
04-29-2009, 02:20 PM
I have to say this folks, just the snickering talk of wanting to be the one to torture Hannity is really defeating any moral arguement you have against him. Just because you feel he is your enemy you are thinking it is funny to subject him to torture? Sometimes my fellow patriots make me very sad.

I think those were meant to be sarcastic comments by couple of posters. He himself volunteered to be subject of enhanced techniques, you won't want him to go through with his offer?

AgentOrange
04-29-2009, 03:15 PM
Just because you feel he is your enemy you are thinking it is funny to subject him to torture? Sometimes my fellow patriots make me very sad.

Hmmm, whatever turns his crank. Not like he's the only person in the world who gets something out of S&M.


Of course, if someone was doing it without his permission, that would be a tragedy and a whole 'nother ballgame.

Liberty Star
04-29-2009, 04:26 PM
MSM and S&M, I'm getting all confused lol

Sarge
04-29-2009, 04:35 PM
Now we are talking.

Flogging by a feather.

Now this is getting me excited.

I just noticed the Ann Coulter-Fee add above. Click Here Now.

Is she the one that does it?

AgentOrange
04-29-2009, 04:41 PM
MSM and S&M, I'm getting all confused lol


MSM is the most brutal form of S&M, scorned by most legitimate practitioners. Only the most deviant of the deviants will subject themselves to MSM.

Liberty Star
04-30-2009, 09:31 AM
That sounds about right, with few exceptions.

There are some honest voices in our media still but not many.

Liberty Star
04-30-2009, 03:02 PM
This may little off topic but has hannity moved on from traditional conservative "family values"?


Sean Hannity Calls Porn Star a 'Role Model'
http://gawker.com/5231094/sean-hannity-calls-porn-star-a-role-model

Liberty Star
05-02-2009, 12:28 PM
Pressure on Hannity is building:


Let’s waterboard Sean Hannity in Poland

April 30, 5:27 PM

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Waterboarding(10).jpg


http://www.examiner.com/x-8131-Sunset-District-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m4d30-Lets-waterboard-Sean-Hannity-in-Poland

braumstr
05-02-2009, 06:59 PM
I have no problem with a torture advocate and defender offering himself up to be subject to the same, for whatever reason.

Hes not agreeing to do it anyhow, so even some sham demonstration cooked up to further his aggressive defense on the indefensible is not going to happen.

HOLLYWOOD
05-02-2009, 07:29 PM
I've got the cell number of a dominatrix he might want to call.


I've got the numbers of Ron Paul Supporters very capable of throwing the best snowballs on the planet.

That uneducated "FOX MOUTH" talks faster than he thinks... Snowballs will have the hypocrite running for any hostile to hide to suck his thumb.


HANNITY = MSM worthless mouth

Liberty Star
05-03-2009, 09:12 AM
I dont watch Fox or any other TV news crap much but trying to think who on Fox would not be "worthless"?
This Fox Sunday morning show hosted by Chris Wallace I used to watch while back had some substance with a panel of differing views. Can't think of anyone else on Fox with substance.

klamath
05-03-2009, 09:37 AM
I think those were meant to be sarcastic comments by couple of posters. He himself volunteered to be subject of enhanced techniques, you won't want him to go through with his offer?

Some of those comments were beyond sarcasm and more on the side of sadistic glee. I am disappointed in you who seem to really have strong beliefs on this subject would defend these comments.

I don't care whether Hannity volunteered or not. Those on the oposite side of GWOT volunteered their bodies for Allah. The point is, torture is wrong and a flippant attitude about it from Hannity or RP supporters is wrong. Anyone casually reading RP forums would come away with the belief that many on here believe it is ok to torture as long as the victim is against what we believe in.

Liberty Star
05-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Few comments I saw seemed like sarcastic jests about a talking head who advocates and justifies torture with a megaphone, I absoultely condemn anyone advocating torture reagrdless of the person's political/ideological stand otherwise.

This volunteered torture for charity ratings stunt would not be same as the real enhanced torture exercise though as other members noted, there is no real comparison. Asking media pundit to go ahead with such an exercise is no way torture.

purplechoe
05-13-2009, 01:57 AM
YouTube - How Come Mannity Is Not Talking About What Wanda Sykes Said About Him? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc8lfC2tBgo)

YouTube - HEY Sean! How bout What Wanda Sykes Said About YOU?!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vh2HqLKyMQ)

Liberty Star
05-13-2009, 08:07 PM
YouTube - HEY Sean! How bout What Wanda Sykes Said About YOU?!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vh2HqLKyMQ)


He completely missed what Sikes said about his torture bid. Maybe he's getting his talking points ready yet.
I'm no fan of Rush but her attack on Rush was over the line though.

purplechoe
05-13-2009, 09:52 PM
He completely missed what Sikes said about his torture bid. Maybe he's getting his talking points ready yet.
I'm no fan of Rush but her attack on Rush was over the line though.

But the bit about letting Olbermann waterboard Hannity was hilarious. :D

Also notice just how pissed off Hannity was at the beginning of the first segment. He was steaming. :)

libertarian4321
05-14-2009, 08:31 PM
Please, no nude pics of Sean Hannity- now that would be torture!

Liberty Star
05-15-2009, 07:46 AM
But the bit about letting Olbermann waterboard Hannity was hilarious. :D

Also notice just how pissed off Hannity was at the beginning of the first segment. He was steaming. :)


LOL Maybe that's why he is bidding for some cool down with his own waterboarding?





Please, no nude pics of Sean Hannity- now that would be torture!

Pics of him in a nude pile with Cheney, Rumsfeld Abu Ghraib style would be torture. Even neocons won't dispute that, but could be wrong.

Liberty Star
05-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Obama facing the pressure over photos release:


Published: May 15, 2009

Graphic Raw Torture Photos Out of Iraq Prison, Drudge Report Posts
by Jack Ryan

http://www.postchronicle.com/images/articles/torture_003.jpg

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212230818.shtml

Liberty Star
05-17-2009, 09:16 AM
Torturing Lawyers

By Kathleen Parker
Sunday, May 17, 2009

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/15/AR2009051502916.html

Liberty Star
05-17-2009, 09:23 PM
If he's being "tortured" by somebody who isn't preceived as a real threat then the torture can't be compared.

Wanda Sikes suggestion on Hannity comes to mind.

Liberty Star
05-21-2009, 11:44 PM
How could Sean Hannity or anyone advocate use of torture if they know of all the tactics used at these prisons?

These shocking details from link posted by another member that media talking heads like Hannity has to be aware of or should be:


This horrific detail has been almost completely ignored by the establishment media in their coverage of the story this week, despite the fact that it’s been in the public domain for nearly five years, after it was first revealed by investigative Seymour Hersh during an ACLU conference in July 2004.

“Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about, okay?” said Hersh. “Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib … The women were passing messages out saying ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened’ and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It’s going to come out.”


Link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/media-ignores-real-controversy-behind-torture-photos-they-show-prison-guards-raping-children.html)

Liberty Star
05-31-2009, 09:24 AM
Vet Voice: Petraeus Says U.S. Violated Geneva Conventions

opednews.com — There's quickening departure of some big military names from the Republican party, their concern about the party moving even farther to the right a number of issues, including torture. General David Petraeus also came out against torture and for closing Guantanamo. I was stunned, however, when he admitted today that the United States has violated


http://digg.com/political_opinion/Vet_Voice_Petraeus_Says_U_S_Violated_Geneva_Conven tions


Since when torture has become a favorite thing of the "Right"?

One would think they would be most repulsed by it because of Right's proximity to Jesus if nothing else. Lately "Right" has gone so Wrong, any wonder it is being wiped out of America?


Would be interesting how Faux news talking heads would chew on this.

Liberty Star
06-09-2009, 07:42 PM
OTOH, stereotyping the whole "right" because of idiotic talking of few neocon pimps like Hannity got to stop:


Waterboarding the right


By Comer Hagler

Published: June 9, 2009

I’m very inquisitive about things I know little about. Yet, if I feel I have knowledge on a subject, I will give my opinion on the subject.

When I hear Sean Hannity of Fox “Clown” News says water boarding is not torture and Dick “Blabbermouth” Cheney say those in control of prisoners and interrogation got valuable information by water boarding, I believe both are lying.


http://www.eufaulatribune.com/euf/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/article/waterboarding_the_right/75519/

tremendoustie
06-09-2009, 07:57 PM
I have to say this folks, just the snickering talk of wanting to be the one to torture Hannity is really defeating any moral arguement you have against him. Just because you feel he is your enemy you are thinking it is funny to subject him to torture? Sometimes my fellow patriots make me very sad.

It wouldn't be funny to force him to do it. It would be funny as heck if he volunteered, then cried like a little girl.

Liberty Star
06-09-2009, 10:05 PM
If Hannity was living in UK, would he approve of this? Since he doesn't consider waterboarding torture, it may be safe to assume he would.



From The TimesJune 10, 2009

London's Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects


Sean O’Neill, Crime Editor
Crime Central: official responses | Cannabis case led to claims | Waterboarding: torture without a trace | Enfield police get new commander | Andy Hayman

Metropolitan Police officers subjected suspects to waterboarding, according to allegations at the centre of a major anti-corruption inquiry, The Times has learnt.

The torture claims are part of a wide-ranging investigation which also includes accusations that officers fabricated evidence and stole suspects’ property. It has already led to the abandonment of a drug trial and the suspension of several police officers.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6466430.ece


Could this be coming to American cities?

Liberty Star
06-14-2009, 10:54 AM
This is interesting development regarding torture lawyer Yoo:

Quote:

Judge: Ex-Bush lawyer can be sued over torture

Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, June 13, 2009


http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/05/07/mn-memos07_phb_y_0500109787_part1.jpg

A prisoner who says he was tortured while being held for nearly four years as a suspected terrorist can sue former Bush administration lawyer John Yoo for coming up with the legal theories that justified his alleged treatment, a federal judge in San Francisco ruled Friday.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/13/MND5186KL8.DTL

Sandman33
06-14-2009, 11:08 AM
Oh GOD please let JESSE VENTURA do it!! PUHLEEEEEZE!

Liberty Star
06-14-2009, 11:36 AM
Ventura would be a good candidate for this enhanced exercise but maybe Hannity is getting cold feet?

He's one of those chicken hawks who have never volunteered to go to war while telling others to send their children for freedom of Iraqis.

Sandman33
06-14-2009, 11:41 AM
Ventura would be a good candidate for this enhanced exercise but maybe Hannity is getting cold feet?

He's one of those chicken hawks who have never volunteered to go to war while telling others to send their children for freedom of Iraqis.

Yes Iraqi freedom...freedom to DIE.
And if you survive freedom to live as a new Rothschild central bank slave since our men bled and died just to take over thier banking system.:mad:

Liberty Star
06-15-2009, 02:34 PM
You are messing up all the freedom euphemisms, Sandman.