Good Things since Obama became president:

[forsmant]

Police need a warrant to search cars during a traffic stop.

http://www.9and10news.com/category/story/?id=153045

Medical Marijuana shops will no longer be raided.

http://blog.mpp.org/medical-marijuana/attorney-general-reiterates-call-for-dea-to-back-off-in-medical-marijuana-states/02262009/



Just trying to stay positive. :o

[torchbearer]

marijuana shops are still being raided.

the warrant thing is a court decision and really hasn't stopped the harrassments people are getting and will continue to get and can't be attributed to Obama being in office.

Sorry. no party for obama.

[forsmant]

Don't be so pessimistic. These are positive things. I don't care if they are coincidental or not.

[torchbearer]

Don't be so pessimistic. These are positive things. I don't care if they are coincidental or not.

one if them is coincidental. the warrant thing.
One if them is a lie. Obama's administration said- We aren't going to raid these marijuana facilities... and then a week later, the DEA did it again.
Where have you been?

[forsmant]

Are you telling me that a government agency can make its own decisions? Some one will get into trouble and the new policy needs to be followed.

[torchbearer]

Are you telling me that a government agency can make its own decisions? Some one will get into trouble and the new policy needs to be followed.

its not a policy. the DEA takes its orders from the pres.
Either Obama in inept, or the policy hasn't changed.
My evidence that the policy hasn't changed is the fact that after the raid... organizations like change.org norml etc we furious, obama then has a town hall meeting where he explains he doesn't believe having legal marijuana is the direction the country needs to go.
We have threads on it. Geez, I wish I could easily find them for you.
Let me see what search brings up.

[forsmant]

Don't worry about it. I guess only one thing good has happened.

[torchbearer]

Here, read this entire thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=188754
I started it to get all the info in one place.

[Kotin]

wtf forsmant?

its not your job to be positive..

[Captain Bryan]

This thread is silly.

[Original_Intent]

I will add one good thing that has happened, but not intentionally.

Obama has moved so quickly towards one world socialism, the direction we were creeping towards anyway, that it has awakened a lot of previously sleeping people and motviated them to action. Yes, often misguided action or for the wrong reason, but I would rather deal with an education issue than a motivation issue.

Lots of recruiting opportunites out there peeps.

[forsmant]

STFU I can be positive.

[Anti Federalist]

wtf forsmant?

its not your job to be positive..

I was thinking the same thing.

This thread is retarded.

[forsmant]

Eat shit and Die!

[torchbearer]

Eat shit and Die!

stop being positive!

[forsmant]

Fine! Well we are getting more work these days. I have a few side jobs, too!

[DAFTEK]

stop being positive!

You still need negative for the mind to flow... :D

[DAFTEK]

damn, i cant rate this thread? :p

[forsmant]

Rate it super awesomeness.

[Anti Federalist]

Eat shit and Die!

Retarded.

Phailure.

[forsmant]

I am a three percenter too! I only give three percent.

[chadhb]

He ended the war in Iraq.

[torchbearer]

He ended the war in Iraq.

when?
Last time I looked, we still have military bases in iraq

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

Keeping Track of Obama's Promises:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/212/thumbs/2433882273_b.jpg

[forsmant]

That may not be a good barakamoter of what I consider the best interests of liberty.

Ending the occupation of Iraq is a good thing. But that is still mostly talk.

[Anti Federalist]

I am a three percenter too! I only give three percent.


:D

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h277/123donnay/ch880604.jpg?t=1240448284

[ItsTime]

Keeping Track of Obama's Promises:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/


Seriously that site is a joke


One of the promises kept:

No. 502: Get his daughters a puppy

The Promise:

"The pledge is (Sasha and Malia) will get their dog, win or lose."

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

Seriously that site is a joke


One of the promises kept:

No. 502: Get his daughters a puppy

The Promise:

"The pledge is (Sasha and Malia) will get their dog, win or lose."

Hmm. It would seem that, at least, the majority of the promises are serious in nature:
http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/2464762_p7t6y/top_promises_wb.png

[forsmant]

Not a useful tool to labeling actions that improved our liberty.

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

Not a useful tool to labeling actions that improved our liberty.

let's see what happens when we do a Google search for, Libertarians grade Obama (http://www.google.com/search?q=libertarians+grade+Obama&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) ...

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Libertarians for Obama
There are two competing 'libertarians for Obama' web sites. Cafe Press is even offering a 'libertarian for Obama' lawn sign for $19.95. ...
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Libertarians for Obama? (Cato @ Liberty)
Feb 29, 2008 ... But there was a hush as Flanders reasoned that Obama is the best candidate to work on four top libertarian reforms: 1) Iraq withdrawal, ...
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The Libertarian Case for Obama: Seven potential upsides to a hope ...
Sep 19, 2008 ... The Libertarian Case for Obama. Seven potential upsides to a ... Thus, seven reasons libertarians can hope for the best from Obama. ...
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Libertarians for Obama? - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com
Sep 9, 2008 ... The professor says that Americans that consider themselves libertarians should abandon the Republican Party and let Obama have it because ...
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Libertarians call out Obama for fake gun stats | Independent ...
WASHINGTON — Libertarians are taking President Barack Obama to task for once .... I really did pass fourth grade and know how to use apostrophes… or is it ...
www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/libertarians-call-out-obama-for-fake-gun-stats/ - 72k - Cached - Similar pages -
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LewRockwell.com Blog: Is Barack Obama a Left-Libertarian?
So, is Obama a left-libertarian? No; Obama's platform is more akin to "Soft Paternalism", a gentler, less threatening approach to controlling people's lives ...
www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019355.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages -
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LIBERTARIANS FOR OBAMA?!--- YES!!
Obama, obviously, is no libertarian. He believes in government and social engineering and many other things liberal. So what gives? ...
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Power Line - Barack Obama, Civil Libertarian
Barack Obama, Civil Libertarian. Share Post Print. April 10, 2009 Posted by John at 8:20 AM. The terrorist surveillance program initiated by the Bush ...
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Libertarians call out Obama for fake gun stats | Libertarian Party
Apr 17, 2009 ... WASHINGTON -- Libertarians are taking President Barack Obama to task for once again intentionally spreading false information about the ...
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The Liberty Papers »Blog Archive » Libertarians For Obama ?
Right now there is only one reason to support Obama for libertarians and that’s his commitment to open government, but I’m not convinced yet that thats ...
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[BKV]

Conservatives jumping on the teabag bandwagon

[forsmant]

Hey thanks for that Omphalus.

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

Hey thanks for that Omphalus.

You're welcome, sir. At least he is closing Gitmo.

[chadhb]

when?
Last time I looked, we still have military bases in iraq

I wasn't being serious....I mean since the MSM is keeping the war on the downlow, i just thought it was over.

[silverhawks]

You're welcome, sir. At least he is closing Gitmo.

About that...

Very Bad News: Afghanistan's Bagram Air Base Will Be Obama's Guantanamo (http://www.alternet.org/rights/128273/)


The Afghan air base is to undergo a $60 million expansion, allowing it to hold five times as many prisoners as remain at Gitmo.

Less than a month after signing an executive order to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, President Barack Obama has quietly agreed to keep denying the right to trial to hundreds more terror suspects held at a makeshift camp in Afghanistan that human rights lawyers have dubbed "Obama's Guantanamo."

Obama to Support Bagram Expansion (http://www.neverinournames.com/diary/2817/)


In a two-sentence filing late Friday, the Justice Department said that the new administration had reviewed its position in a case brought by prisoners at the United States Air Force base at Bagram, just north of the Afghan capital. The Obama team determined that the Bush policy was correct: such prisoners cannot sue for their release.

Afghanistan: $60M Bagram Prison Expansion Nearing Completion (http://www.stratfor.com/sitrep/20090220_afghanistan_60m_bagram_prison_expansion_n earing_completion)


A $60 million expansion that will nearly double the size of the U.S. military prison at Bagram air base in Afghanistan is nearing completion, Al Jazeera reported Feb. 20. More than 600 prisoners, which the United States has classified as enemy combatants, currently are held at the prison. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates was expected to issue a statement Feb. 20 that “refines” Washington’s position on use of Bagram and similar facilities, including Guantanamo Bay. Gates and U.S. Attorney-General Eric Holder have been conducting a review of the prisons to determine the fate of detainees.

Bagram torture and prisoner abuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_torture_and_prisoner_abuse)


What happened at Abu Ghraib was no aberration, but part of a widespread pattern. It showed the tragic impact of the initial decision by Mr. Bush and his top advisers that they were not going to follow the Geneva Conventions, or indeed American law, for prisoners taken in antiterrorist operations.

The investigative file on Bagram, obtained by The Times, showed that the mistreatment of prisoners was routine: shackling them to the ceilings of their cells, depriving them of sleep, kicking and hitting them, sexually humiliating them and threatening them with guard dogs -- the very same behavior later repeated in Iraq.

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

About that...

Very Bad News: Afghanistan's Bagram Air Base Will Be Obama's Guantanamo (http://www.alternet.org/rights/128273/)



Obama to Support Bagram Expansion (http://www.neverinournames.com/diary/2817/)



Afghanistan: $60M Bagram Prison Expansion Nearing Completion (http://www.stratfor.com/sitrep/20090220_afghanistan_60m_bagram_prison_expansion_n earing_completion)



Bagram torture and prisoner abuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_torture_and_prisoner_abuse)


Thank you for citing sources. References are better than speculation.

[silverhawks]

Thank you for citing sources. References are better than speculation.

You're welcome. :)

[Anti Federalist]

You're welcome, sir. At least he is closing Gitmo.

Somebody already addressed this, but it bears repeating.

Gitmo, the facility, may close (even that's not a sure thing) but the jailing of people without any clear reason why will continue.

[TastyWheat]

Easing travel and money transfers to Cuba is a good thing, but I think it only applies to Cuban relatives.

[Hiki]

Well Obama took a good step with Cuba, and also the other South American states are far more hospitable than previously.