Hillary praises Ron Paul and his Amazing enthusiastic grassroot supporters - Video

[Dripping Rain]

good news. this morning Dr paul was on cspan around 11 est questioning the sos and after answering his question she remarked about how he had the greatest grassroots shes seen during the potus campaign and how hes such a great man. i kid you not

heres the shocker :eek: before Dr paul there was the democrat from California Brad Shermann and omg ive never seen or heard such a blabbering warmonger in my life. the same dude who was against the bush banker bailout. I swear he makes Karl Rove look like Ghandi and Mccain like the dalai lama. i stole the first phrase from PJB :)
ill try to see if i could find the videos on cspanjunkies youtube


[Admin edit to add you tube link]

please digg the vid if you have a digg acount.
http://digg.com/people/Ron_Paul_questions_Hillary_Clinton_04_22_2009_CSPA N_2
YouTube - Ron Paul gets some love from Hillary Clinton 04/22/2009 CSPAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrpKS5aa4GU)

[RCA]

Has the world turned upside down?

[He Who Pawns]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.

[Chester Copperpot]

let it begin

[Dripping Rain]

Has the world turned upside down?

i was thinking the same. lololll

[Kotin]

Youtube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kotin]

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/04/22/clinton-praises-rep-paul-for-inspiring-enthusiastic-supporters/


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton interrupted her testimony on Capitol Hill today to pay a compliment to Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who made an unsuccessful bid for the GOP presidential nomination last year.

As she finished answering a question from Paul, she added: “And, at the risk of going over our time, I just want to say, having campaigned during the last presidential election, you had the most enthusiastic supporters of anybody I ever saw.”

Paul laughed, and replied, “I love to hear that.”

Clinton wasn’t done. “Well, I mean, my goodness, everywhere I went they were literally running down highways holding your signs.”

That drew laughter from many lawmakers.

“I’ve never had a chance to tell you that,” Clinton went on. “But your message obviously resonated with a lot of people.”

“Thank you,” Paul said.

Before the love-fest could go any further, Foreigh Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman intervened. “You’re going to encourage him!” the California Democrat playfully warned.

[He Who Pawns]

we need a toooooooooooooooob nooooooooooooow!!

[haaaylee]

tube!

[awake]

Soon all of these establishment types will walk, talk and act just like us...but remember, they are here to shape this revolution in their favor. They know there is a ground shift coming, they need it as badly as us, but they need it to usher in socialism instead of Liberty.

This Revolution must not be diverted, co-opted, distracted and watered down... we need to look for action from any representative of liberty - not words alone. Their (PTB) actions will betray them every time.

[mrchubbs]

Here ya go:

YouTube - Ron Paul questions Hillary Clinton 04/22/2009 CSPAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrpKS5aa4GU)


ENJOY!

[Kotin]

Here ya go:


ENJOY!

"queue the youtube god"

[newbitech]

thanks!

[Brian4Liberty]

She's still running for President... and she wants us to carry her signs next time. :rolleyes:

[tonesforjonesbones]

That was actually a very warm, fuzzy moment...thanks for that. tones

[ClayTrainor]

Great! :D

[Zolah]

Here ya go:

YouTube - Ron Paul questions Hillary Clinton 04/22/2009 CSPAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrpKS5aa4GU)


ENJOY!

Salut, sir :)

[Bryan]

"You're going to encourage them" -- classic. :)

[Don't Tread on Mike]

Please tell me that there is a video or sound link to this historical remark,

[Don't Tread on Mike]

ok I lied lol. there are like 10.

[evilfunnystuff]

translation: Dear God, dont let him get in a follow up question.

[nate895]

Ahh...That made me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.

[zach]

Ok, she gets a cookie for praising him.

Do I still like her? No.


Soon all of these establishment types will walk, talk and act just like us...but remember, they are here to shape this revolution in their favor. They know there is a ground shift coming, they need it as badly as us, but they need it to usher in socialism instead of Liberty.

This Revolution must not be diverted, co-opted, distracted and watered down... we need to look for action from any representative of liberty - not words alone. Their (PTB) actions will betray them every time.

This.

[LibertyEagle]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.

Religion and libertarianism are not mutually exclusive.

[Don't Tread on Mike]

GO RON PAUL. And thank you hillary for helping to encourage him, maybe he will decide to run in 2012.

[torchbearer]

go ron paul. And thank you hillary for helping to encourage him, maybe he will decide to run in 2012.

+1776.

[He Who Pawns]

hehe... good. dr paul seemed very pleased.

hillary showed dr paul the respect he deserves, which is very rare in washington.

[torchbearer]

Religion and libertarianism are not mutually exclusive.

true.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am a Christian libertarian...there are many of us. tones

[He Who Pawns]

Religion and libertarianism are not mutually exclusive.

generally speaking, libertarians do not favor banning drugs and porn and prostitution and gambling like religious whackos do.

[specsaregood]

generally speaking, libertarians do not favor banning drugs and porn and prostitution and gambling like religious whackos do.
That's because the "religious whackos" figured out years ago: making sinning illegal just makes it that much more exciting. Obviously not because they choose not to partake in those activities.....

[zach]

Ok, what's the topic again?

Hillary!

*senses off-topic religious debate again*

[Don't Tread on Mike]

So did anyone in these forums run down the highway holding a Ron Paul for prez sign?

[ClayTrainor]

http://digg.com/people/Ron_Paul_questions_Hillary_Clinton_04_22_2009_CSPA N_2

Digg it!

[torchbearer]

So did anyone in these forums run down the highway holding a Ron Paul for prez sign?

we weren't running, but we were holding them.
we walked from our cars to the intersections.

[ClayTrainor]

Digg it http://digg.com/people/Ron_Paul_questions_Hillary_Clinton_04_22_2009_CSPA N_2

[Dripping Rain]

Here ya go:

YouTube - Ron Paul questions Hillary Clinton 04/22/2009 CSPAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrpKS5aa4GU)


ENJOY!

thanks chubbies. i wish you put a better title to the vid

[InterestedParticipant]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.
I think you are partly right.

First, I agree they they are attempting to create division amongst across the conservative community, which include libertarians.

Second, they are creating this division to create many smaller subgroups, each with less power.

Third, I think they will create nuanced differences between each of these subgroups, and then pit each subgroup against the other and allow them to attack each other.

Finally, I think they will also directly attach these subgroups, with the Ron Paul subgroup being setup for attack right now as crazy, wacky and insane Tea Baggers.

[Dripping Rain]

"You're going to encourage them" -- classic. :)

encourage him not them
its very clear he was jealous and im being serious. whens the last time a secretary of state flattered a congressman in a committee hearing?

RON Pauuuuuuulllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[homah]

I don't think there was any elaborate scheme here. I'm sure Clinton knows that Paul is one to ask the tough questions that no one else will and figures that by greasing him up a bit can make him think twice about asking the super tough questions. Of course, that won't work, but I can see that being her thought process.

[Nate K]

This is what diplomacy achieves.

[mrchubbs]

thanks chubbies. i wish you put a better title to the vid

I was in a hurry doing 57 1/2 things at once. I updated the title just now.

Enjoy!

[Dripping Rain]

I was in a hurry doing 57 1/2 things at once. I updated the title just now.

Enjoy!

wicked title. thanks chubbies

[He Who Pawns]

I don't think there was any elaborate scheme here. I'm sure Clinton knows that Paul is one to ask the tough questions that no one else will and figures that by greasing him up a bit can make him think twice about asking the super tough questions.

greasing him up? OMG, I just had a horrifying mental image. :eek:

[jcarcinogen]

http://digg.com/people/Ron_Paul_questions_Hillary_Clinton_04_22_2009_CSPA N_2

Digg it!

Should have used mrChubbs' youtube title to get more attention, but let's see what happens.

[Real_CaGeD]

let it begin

and so it begins....

[BuddyRey]

Wow, that was rather sweet of the ol' gal!

Flattery will get you everywhere, Mrs. Clinton! :D

[Dripping Rain]

http://digg.com/people/Ron_Paul_questions_Hillary_Clinton_04_22_2009_CSPA N_2

Digg it!

added the dig to the op. but with that title i doubt it will ever make frontpage status

[MsDoodahs]

Enjoyed this very much. She is a politician first and foremost, and I'm glad she recognized that we RP supporters are a very passionate group.

Kudos to all y'all.

:D

[OptionsTrader]

Why does praise for Paul on television always have to be followed by laughter?

Fuck Hillary.

[jcarcinogen]

She is a political animal, she knew what she was doing.

[Working Poor]

Hilary is no dummy that's for sure.

[No1ButPaul08]

Does anyone remember receiving a letter from Ron where he says Hillary gives him the creeps? It was when she was frontrunner for the nomination. I can't find a copy of it online and I'm not sure if I have a physical copy anymore, definitely not where I'm at right now

[Andrew-Austin]

Since Hillary is a complete tool and puppet, I'd interpret this as her trying to alienate Paul from Republicans who might otherwise be receptive to his message. Or she might be trying to underscore how clueless the Republican party is in comparison to Paul?

"Clinton likes Paul? He must be a liberal then".

[0zzy]

hahah :D I love this one. It made me smile. "You're encouraging him" gave me big lol's :D.

[JK/SEA]

what did i just see and hear?.....i literally put my hand on my mouth in amazement...

group hug.

The REVOLUTION Continues....

[Reason]

:D

[jmag]

I thought the laughter which filled the room whether intentional or not indicated a healthy respect for this line of thought. Different than 6 months ago. Felt all good and fuzzy to me.

[trey4sports]

Zomg!!!!

the PTB are at it again, their just putting in motion their new plan for operation-libertarian-convulsion-discombobulation.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Mr. Chubbs, the youtube master :)


Soon all of these establishment types will walk, talk and act just like us...but remember, they are here to shape this revolution in their favor. They know there is a ground shift coming, they need it as badly as us, but they need it to usher in socialism instead of Liberty.

This Revolution must not be diverted, co-opted, distracted and watered down... we need to look for action from any representative of liberty - not words alone. Their (PTB) actions will betray them every time.

^this!

[Conza88]

She didn't want a follow up question. She didn't want to get RWND!

She's smart, she's evil, she is scum.

Fuck you Hillary, how was the meeting with Obama at Bilderberg? :rolleyes:

[reduen]

I can't believe that you guys missed what just happened....!!!!!! Man she is good!!!

I totally despise this lady with a passion, she was using flattery to soften him up and take up his time so he could not respond to the comment about "a definite time table for the end of the Iraq war..."

It is the oldest trick in the book, if she were combative he would not have let down his guard and let her take up all of the time....!:rolleyes:

Man, I have to watch you kids 24 hours a day....! ;)

Except Conza...!

[reduen]

She didn't want a follow up question. She didn't want to get RWND!

She's smart, she's evil, she is scum.

Fuck you Hillary, how was the meeting with Obama at Bilderberg? :rolleyes:

You just beat me by a little bit...

[Chieftain1776]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.

^This^

More importantly Clinton knows that Afghanistan might blow up like Vietnam and @5:02 asks us to "help". Thus associating us with Obama and leaving the real antiwar flank compromised and not in the Republican opposition when 2012 comes around.

Remember LBJ was a liberal Democrat that proclaimed "We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." And then escalated and made it "his war"

Who came to replace him? Republican Richard Nixon who promised to end that disastrous war.

I think Clinton's praise is probably genuine but I certainly don't think the timing is.

[Anti Federalist]

Has the world turned upside down?

http://site.steelcityauctions.com/hellfo.jpg

[0zzy]

She didn't run up the time, Paul had 5 minutes, he couldn't have made another question.

[Time for Change]

The flattery trick to distract from the meaningless answer.
Granted, this can be used for good, she did a political side step to avoid having to provide any substantial answers.
Sneaky Bitch is up to something...

[paulitics]

I can't believe that you guys missed what just happened....!!!!!! Man she is good!!!

I totally despise this lady with a passion, she was using flattery to soften him up and take up his time so he could not respond to the comment about "a definite time table for the end of the Iraq war..."

It is the oldest trick in the book, if she were combative he would not have let down his guard and let her take up all of the time....!:rolleyes:

Man, I have to watch you kids 24 hours a day....! ;)

Except Conza...!

She is Machievelian.

[Bryan]

While there are some argument that this could have been a delay tactic of sorts, it certainly had a cost of giving us some great material. :) I see this clip of Hiliary saying "Your message obviously resonated with a lot of people" etc, making it in many YouTube videos to come... :)


That was nice of Madam Clinton to say that, I thought the guy at the end said your going to encourage HIM, as in encourage him to run again. Lol.
I listened to this 5 times, I guess he did say HIM.

BTW- you can see Dr. Paul laughing at the end. No harm, no foul that I see.

[Conza88]

You just beat me by a little bit...

:o Nah, you just had more text to write. :)


She didn't run up the time, Paul had 5 minutes, he couldn't have made another question.

I don't think there is a shot clock in the chamber... lol

[anaconda]

Great! :D


I wish RP would have taken her to school while the spotlight was on. He should have got serious and said "Mrs. Clinton, do you understand what my supporters are enthusiastic about?" Well, let me sum it up for you..." Instead he looked kind of like a giddy school boy being praised by the teacher for winning the spelling bee. And then that jerkoff saying "you're gonna encourage him..." RP might have added something like "The only encouragement I need is from the millions who voted for our platform and the thousands that discover and join us daily. God willing, we will have enough patriots to set this mess right."

[RevolutionSD]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.

Good points.

Don't forget, EVERYTHING Hillary says is calculated. That wasn't just an off-the-cuff praise of RP. If she really wanted to praise his supporters she could have done so many times earlier.

On the same token, the R's and D's are all the same now so what does it really matter in terms of our gov't. I believe it's just Hillary trying to gain as much power for herself as possible, so 2012 is all hers.

[Conza88]

YouTube - Mike Gravel Exposes Clinton & Obama on Iran, Hillary Cackles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o)

[jcarcinogen]

Good points.

Don't forget, EVERYTHING Hillary says is calculated. That wasn't just an off-the-cuff praise of RP. If she really wanted to praise his supporters she could have done so many times earlier.

On the same token, the R's and D's are all the same now so what does it really matter in terms of our gov't. I believe it's just Hillary trying to gain as much power for herself as possible, so 2012 is all hers.

Wasn't it Ms. Clinton that coined the term "vast right-wing conspiracy"?

[pacelli]

Has the world turned upside down?

Ok, I'm taking two and I'll check in in the morning. This clip just threw me around the room.

[devil21]

I think it was both politically calculated to stall out any further questions as well as being genuine praise of RP's campaign. She's not making it up about us being the strongest grassroots campaign so there's certainly truth to her statement. I thought it was a kinda nice moment. Even Hillary recognizes that we kick ass :)

[JoshLowry]

So did anyone in these forums run down the highway holding a Ron Paul for prez sign?

Natalie and I held signs over a highway (288 South) for 20 or 21 days in a row straight. Just before December 16th.

:o

[CUnknown]

I don't think there was any elaborate scheme here. I'm sure Clinton knows that Paul is one to ask the tough questions that no one else will and figures that by greasing him up a bit can make him think twice about asking the super tough questions. Of course, that won't work, but I can see that being her thought process.

I don't think we should be looking too hard for ulterior motives here. Paul's question was honest and tough, but not at all mean-spirited. He actually crossed the aisle and praised the Obama approach (at least his words) of being open to talking to our enemies. That's a huge compliment, coming from a Republican. And, let's face it--I'm sure she did notice our enthusiasm on the campaign trail. So, I think it was actually an honest compliment from Hillary. :eek: She appreciated his support of the Obama/Democrat approach to foreign policy (at least their stated approach). He says something nice, she returns the favor. It really was a warm fuzzy moment in Washington, those are rare.

[Reason]

rate this video up too

YouTube - Ron Paul My Main Concern Is Reversing Our Empire Mentality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPsIuEp3Uc)

[He Who Pawns]

YouTube - Mike Gravel Exposes Clinton & Obama on Iran, Hillary Cackles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o)

Epic Gravel pawnage. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/gfx_RedWhiteBlue/icons/icon14.gif http://www.ronpaulforums.com/gfx_RedWhiteBlue/icons/icon14.gif

I used to love to see his smackdowns of all those phonies.

[Chieftain1776]

Wow. Chris Matthews of Hardball noticed played the video of Hillary giving Ron Paul supporters their due. I don't have the initial video but later on when they're discussing the direction of the GOP he brought it up again. They brought up Goldwater and Matthews and his guest (a GOP party hack/"strategist") were really condescending towards liberty but even he said the libertarian streak should be recognized. The whole video is interesting but @17:15 is the Ron Paul remark (You have to wait for it to load to skip to the segment) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#30354460

[rajibo]

Well, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl, so maybe she was reliving some of her youth a little bit.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

I never would have voted for Mrs. Clinton, but it was nice of her to say this.

[satchelmcqueen]

trying to fatten mr paul up i see.

[fr33domfightr]

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/04/22/clinton-praises-rep-paul-for-inspiring-enthusiastic-supporters/


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton interrupted her testimony on Capitol Hill today to pay a compliment to Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who made an unsuccessful bid for the GOP presidential nomination last year.

As she finished answering a question from Paul, she added: “And, at the risk of going over our time, I just want to say, having campaigned during the last presidential election, you had the most enthusiastic supporters of anybody I ever saw.”

Paul laughed, and replied, “I love to hear that.”

Clinton wasn’t done. “Well, I mean, my goodness, everywhere I went they were literally running down highways holding your signs.”

That drew laughter from many lawmakers.

“I’ve never had a chance to tell you that,” Clinton went on. “But your message obviously resonated with a lot of people.”

“Thank you,” Paul said.

Before the love-fest could go any further, Foreigh Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman intervened. “You’re going to encourage him!” the California Democrat playfully warned.


When the average american saw that compliment, do you suppose they thought to themselves, "What is she talking about, I never saw any Ron Paul supporters on CNN or Fox?"


FF

[RonPaulwillWin]

Nice, but what did "Ron Paul people are all over the country" get us?

[fr33domfightr]

Nice, but what did "Ron Paul people are all over the country" get us?

Obviously, it didn't get Ron Paul a win. But you have to admit, Ron Paul, his ideas, and now H.R. Bills, are getting much more exposure than he would have ever gotten, had it not been for his supporters. The strong support gave him credibility in the eyes of his peers, and in the media. If things go well, his new-found credibility will translate into an even larger movement, and positive things to come.


FF

[TruckinMike]

Hillery's Answer was bad linking.

If you had a drug store you wouldn't place your lunch plate ad next right next to your diarrhea medication ad - now would you?

The Hillery love fest is not a good thing. IMO

TMIKE

[thasre]

For the record, I've always kind of liked Hillary Clinton and if you really scour my past posts, I'm sure you'll find me saying that elsewhere. So what I have to say following isn't me being just a fawning Paultard who's glad she complimented him.

I think the whole exchange was great. Paul rambled a little, but Hillary gave, I think, a decent answer. I think some of the Guantanamo stuff was show (they closed Guantanamo, yeah, but now they're expanding prisons in Afghanistan enormously); I cringed when she complained about some kind of budget cut. But her explanation of changing the tenor from "We hate everyone and talk to no one" into something more genuinely diplomatic seemed sincere. She raised good points about how there are more musicians in military bands than diplomats, which I'm sure Paul would find as discomforting as she does.

And even though I think this administration has actually proved to be bad at a number of diplomatic issues (bowing before a Saudi king, anyone?), Hillary did a bang-up job of illustrating diplomacy in action. She, by a mere compliment, has managed to generate 9 pages of more-or-less positive comments from people who spent an entire primary hating her guts. If we (America) could engage in that sort of tactical diplomacy with our enemies, we'd actually have a much better standing in the world I think.

[pahs1994]

I don't think she was tryin to butter him up or anything. she really seemed genuine

[qwerty]

nice :D

[kathy88]

For the record, I've always kind of liked Hillary Clinton and if you really scour my past posts, I'm sure you'll find me saying that elsewhere. So what I have to say following isn't me being just a fawning Paultard who's glad she complimented him.

I think the whole exchange was great. Paul rambled a little, but Hillary gave, I think, a decent answer. I think some of the Guantanamo stuff was show (they closed Guantanamo, yeah, but now they're expanding prisons in Afghanistan enormously); I cringed when she complained about some kind of budget cut. But her explanation of changing the tenor from "We hate everyone and talk to no one" into something more genuinely diplomatic seemed sincere. She raised good points about how there are more musicians in military bands than diplomats, which I'm sure Paul would find as discomforting as she does.

And even though I think this administration has actually proved to be bad at a number of diplomatic issues (bowing before a Saudi king, anyone?), Hillary did a bang-up job of illustrating diplomacy in action. She, by a mere compliment, has managed to generate 9 pages of more-or-less positive comments from people who spent an entire primary hating her guts. If we (America) could engage in that sort of tactical diplomacy with our enemies, we'd actually have a much better standing in the world I think.


This. Except the liking Hillary part :)

[user]

I disagree with most of you. I have no trouble believing this moment was genuine, but notice what impressed Hillary - how enthusiastic RP's supporters were and how the message resonated with so many people. This kind of thing has happened before - politicians have been impressed with RP for a while now. This has to do with political skill. Of course with RP it's about more than that. It's about liberty. But your average politician doesn't get that or doesn't care. To them it's about political skill. That's what impresses them.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Now who ran down the street with Ron Paul signs after Hillary Clinton? I always thought Giuliani was our overwhelming main target during the primary campaign.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

I agree, it seemed very genuine to me. Made me feel good watching it too.

[reduen]

Listen to me folks, I live in Arkansas. I know what I am talking about on this. There is not one genuine bone in that woman’s body. Here every move is to gain more power that is all that she knows....! Anyway, I would rather have seen her be taken to task here.

Obviously there are some here that were flattered by her comments, we were the supporters that she was talking about after all but I see through her imitation smile...

[Spike]

Does the name Peter Paul ring any bells?

This woman and her husband are corrupt. Leave it at that. If people are so desperate to get praise from her, then this isn't a revolutionary movement at all.

[He Who Pawns]

I think the truth is that this was part real, part strategy. Of course, any professional pol like Hillary who spent so much time on the trail last year would be impressed with Dr Paul's support. But I'm also sticking to my theory that the Dems have hatched a plan to separate fiscal conservatives from the neocons and big federal religion pushers.

[Todd]

I haven't seen any evidence military resources are being diverted to diplomatic means. As for her statement about that and praising Paul's supporters.....when your a fake a fraud and a phony like Hil, its difficult to measure sincerity.

[Bryan]

I think the whole exchange was great. Paul rambled a little, but Hillary gave, I think, a decent answer. I think some of the Guantanamo stuff was show (they closed Guantanamo, yeah, but now they're expanding prisons in Afghanistan enormously); I cringed when she complained about some kind of budget cut. But her explanation of changing the tenor from "We hate everyone and talk to no one" into something more genuinely diplomatic seemed sincere. She raised good points about how there are more musicians in military bands than diplomats, which I'm sure Paul would find as discomforting as she does.

And even though I think this administration has actually proved to be bad at a number of diplomatic issues (bowing before a Saudi king, anyone?), Hillary did a bang-up job of illustrating diplomacy in action. She, by a mere compliment, has managed to generate 9 pages of more-or-less positive comments from people who spent an entire primary hating her guts. If we (America) could engage in that sort of tactical diplomacy with our enemies, we'd actually have a much better standing in the world I think.
This is what I love about the forum. People posting up once in a blue moon to drop a gem. Thanks!



Does the name Peter Paul ring any bells?

This woman and her husband are corrupt. Leave it at that. If people are so desperate to get praise from her, then this isn't a revolutionary movement at all.
IMO, our fight is on many levels with a great deal of dynamics. All positive steps are just that. But sure, feel-good talk won't remove chains of slavery either.



Anyway, I would rather have seen her be taken to task here.
I think it's better this come in time. Most people can't expect dramatic shifts in such a short time frame so if Dr. Paul did press too hard he could end up looking bad for expecting too much. What Dr. Paul did however was brilliant in that he fired a warning shot, let them know his is going to be on their tale and later THAT is when he will take them to task. Patients. :)

Just my $0.02- again. :)

[dannno]

Was it my imagination or was Paul trying to lead by example here??

There are much worse things he could have said to her.

[jd603]

Pucker up butter cup! :-)

[reduen]

This is what I love about the forum. People posting up once in a blue moon to drop a gem. Thanks!



IMO, our fight is on many levels with a great deal of dynamics. All positive steps are just that. But sure, feel-good talk won't remove chains of slavery either.



I think it's better this come in time. Most people can't expect dramatic shifts in such a short time frame so if Dr. Paul did press too hard he could end up looking bad for expecting too much. What Dr. Paul did however was brilliant in that he fired a warning shot, let them know his is going to be on their tale and later THAT is when he will take them to task. Patients. :)

Just my $0.02- again. :)

Well, all I know is that 78 more people died just today. How long should we give them Bryan?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090423/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

[MikeStanart]

Hillery's Answer was bad linking.

If you had a drug store you wouldn't place your lunch plate ad next right next to your diarrhea medication ad - now would you?

The Hillery love fest is not a good thing. IMO

TMIKE

I completely agree; I'll take the exposure, but I don't consider this a blessing.

[MikeStanart]

Was it my imagination or was Paul trying to lead by example here??

There are much worse things he could have said to her.


Yeah, I was about to say the same thing before I read your post.

I was also impressed that Paul simply laughed along to that one Congressman's statement of "Oh, now you'll just encourage him".
Most would view that as a negative statement.

[anaconda]

Obviously, it didn't get Ron Paul a win. But you have to admit, Ron Paul, his ideas, and now H.R. Bills, are getting much more exposure than he would have ever gotten, had it not been for his supporters. The strong support gave him credibility in the eyes of his peers, and in the media. If things go well, his new-found credibility will translate into an even larger movement, and positive things to come.


FF

Well said.

[user]

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing before I read your post.

I was also impressed that Paul simply laughed along to that one Congressman's statement of "Oh, now you'll just encourage him".
Most would view that as a negative statement.
I'd probably laugh too. It means they're scared.

[A. Havnes]

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing before I read your post.

I was also impressed that Paul simply laughed along to that one Congressman's statement of "Oh, now you'll just encourage him".
Most would view that as a negative statement.

Ron Paul only needs our encouragement, doesn't that guy know?

[Draco33]

Natalie and I held signs over a highway (288 South) for 20 or 21 days in a row straight. Just before December 16th.

:o

I saw the ones on 59S south of the 288 interchange.

Thats what got me to first google Ron Paul. .. Thanks for showing me and others the light! ;)

[UtahApocalypse]

Hillary is hoping to be first SoS to serve a Democrat, and Republican (Paul) presidency :D

[Carole]

Mrs. Clinton probably did appreciate having a kinder, gentler repartee with Dr. Paul if the previous questioner really was Brad Sherman. LOL

At least Dr. Paul laid the groundwork that she can expect him to be considerate, even if the question is part of his agenda. She obviously knows that he is not a warmonger. She probably thinks she can manipulate him. :D

Still, she nicely non-answered, nicely sidestepped, nicely distracted with flattery on her way to the end of that question.

[Give me liberty]

Still dont like her for Bombing Iraq, Serbia.

Its nice that she returned the favor.


But can she return the lost lives that her husband presidency had done?
guess not.

[BenIsForRon]

Hillary 2012!!!1!

[HOLLYWOOD]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.


DING DING DING!

Even Raquel Maddow recognizes that all the grassroots o f Ron Paul Republicans, Libertarians, Constitutionists, and even Independents are becoming a very big and formidable force against democratic politicians and their screwed up ideologies. Even their ORACLE is in Jeopardy of one term if Republicans and the old neocons change their ways, FOR REAL, and except true Conservative values and not the Jingoism Corporatism Fascist Ideology.

The left is realizing, no matter how much they discredit the TEA PARTIES and ASTROTURF horseshyt, opposition is growing against the Democratics/DNC. They will lose in 2010 & 2012 if the center and right unite!

So instead of pushing their screwed up policies, they are trying to fracture the center and right.

PS: Hillary is a Puppet to money, wealth, etc... the country and people come second and third... BUT, this could be a blessing. If internationally things smooth out, the NEOCON old school power republicans have no platform to run on except true conservative values and the likes of Freedoms/Liberties for REAL.

[Vessol]

Who cares?

Seriously. why is this topic this long.

She payed him a complement, doesn't mean she's suddenly libertarian-friendly and "on our side".

I disagree with 99% of Obama's policies, but I genuinely think he's an intelligent man and believes what he is doing is right. Doesn't mean I support him though.

[bunklocoempire]

IMO, the Dems have a deliberate new strategy now of trying to pump this "schism" between Ron Paul (libertarian) Republicans and Neocons. It's a winning strategy if your goal is to break up and disable the GOP. In the long run, though, it could have very serious blowback. This could literally cause the breakup of the GOP into two schools - fiscal conservative libertarians and religious warmonger neocons. the former could draw huge, huge numbers of democrats, especially if the economy and taxes get worse. Dems should be careful what they wish for. A highly religious, warmongering GOP is easy to beat.

I’ve noticed this too. Although I see it as a dem & neocon collaboration, political and media wise. (two-faces of same minded groups).

The divisions would be win/win for both major parties. Keep the divisions, add more divisions, up the ante on “outrage” so as to continue the smoke & mirrors of dems vs. repubs. The dems and neocons depend on each other like gun grabbers and the NRA.

Obama has the “I voted for Palin, not McCain voter” so pissed and scared that they’ll take the “best chance of winning” again.

This time neocons have used part of Paul’s message, but again, have drawn the line at nonintervention. And again spreading falsehoods about Pauls complete strategy –economic and otherwise. “Paul’s great, but let’s be realistic, he’s asking for too much too soon.……”

The dems are both hinting that “Paul may have something”, but are also naming him specifically and mocking him. (tea-parties)

Message to republicans not paying attention: “Ron Paul is a liability splitting the vote, democrats seem to like him, his “end the fed” is strange because democrats caused this crisis, his foreign policy is surrender.”

Message to democrats not paying attention: “The republicans don’t even like Ron Paul, his “end the fed” is asking for more corporatism, his pirate strategy is outdated compared to Hillary’s.”

Just attitudes and spin that I’ve gleaned off other forums, FOX, MSNBC, out of politicians mouths, Daily/Colbert show etc..

IMO, dems & neocons would rather go down together than either of them relinquishing control to a third party.

Bunkloco

[reduen]

:(

[Bryan]

Well, all I know is that 78 more people died just today. How long should we give them Bryan?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090423/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq
I understand. And for me, I would want for any one of them that wants to come home to be able to come home. But I'm not the one making decisions, so, IMO, the question you ask has little practical value. IMO, a better question is, how can we get those who want to come home to come home? I wish I knew the best answer to this, but can see how it requires the employment of tact, messaging and more to convince those in power to come to alignment with your position. In this, I do see what Dr. Paul did as a good move here.

[reduen]

I understand. And for me, I would want for any one of them that wants to come home to be able to come home. But I'm not the one making decisions, so, IMO, the question you ask has little practical value. IMO, a better question is, how can we get those who want to come home to come home? I wish I knew the best answer to this, but can see how it requires the employment of tact, messaging and more to convince those in power to come to alignment with your position. In this, I do see what Dr. Paul did as a good move here.

I think it went right over your head... I was talking about the Iraqi's that are still dying while we still there... The soldiers are there by choice and are getting paid to be there...!

You are certainly entitled to your humble opinion but to say that my question has little practical value seems a bit disingenuous to me... (MHO)

[Bryan]

I think it went right over your head... I was talking about the Iraqi's that are still dying while we still there...
OK, I see I didn't read your statement correctly- I misread to think you were referring to our troops that were dying. None-the-less, I think my overall point (below) stands.


The soldiers are there by choice and are getting paid to be there...
From what I can see, and based on the 2008 donations coming from the military, I don't think that a lot of them want to be there anymore. Sure, they made a choice when they signed up for service but I think this situation is more complicated than that.


You are certainly entitled to your humble opinion but to say that my question has little practical value seems a bit disingenuous to me... (MHO)
I disagree as you're asking me how long we should give them when I have virtually no power to make a difference in that decision making process. To say the least, president Obama doesn't call me up asking for advice. I'm doing what I can to make a difference and if anyone wants to say that I'm making more than a little practical difference I'd be flattered. Regardless, I do press on. Having your question directed to president Obama or Hilary would be fruitful.

[speciallyblend]

breaking news ,i saw this on cnn ticker , mccain campaigner says the gop is shrinking or something along those lines. i wanted to call that person or the gop and say hello? hello anyone home in there. the reason is mccain and the failed gop leadership ,get a clue gop geez

[reduen]

OK, I see I didn't read your statement correctly- I misread to think you were referring to our troops that were dying. None-the-less, I think my overall point (below) stands.


From what I can see, and based on the 2008 donations coming from the military, I don't think that a lot of them want to be there anymore. Sure, they made a choice when they signed up for service but I think this situation is more complicated than that.


I disagree as you're asking me how long we should give them when I have virtually no power to make a difference in that decision making process. To say the least, president Obama doesn't call me up asking for advice. I'm doing what I can to make a difference and if anyone wants to say that I'm making more than a little practical difference I'd be flattered. Regardless, I do press on. Having your question directed to president Obama or Hilary would be fruitful.

When I said we, I meant collectively as a movement. (This would include Dr. Paul who is questioning Hillary here..)

My original post was about taking them (Our leaders and in this case, Hillary) to task. Which do you think will end the war (and all needless wars for that matter) quicker, taking them to task or playing nice? I would contend that taking them to task will get it done quicker. If this is the case, then the sooner the better! Playing nice will not cause them to change anything....

The quicker the war ends, the fewer people who die. That is all that I am saying.... Your seemingly complacent attitude on this subject is a little confusing to me here. Do you really think that when you/we stand up and take our leaders to task that you/we are making little practical difference?

We were all just stating our opinions of what was going on in the clip right? I must have missed something that I need to go back and review…..

[Bryan]

When I said we, I meant collectively as a movement. (This would include Dr. Paul who is questioning Hillary here..)

My original post was about taking them (Our leaders and in this case, Hillary) to task. Which do you think will end the war (and all needless wars for that matter) quicker, taking them to task or playing nice? I would contend that taking them to task will get it done quicker. If this is the case, then the sooner the better! Playing nice will not cause them to change anything....
I think that a proper balance of taking them to task and playing nice will get it done best. For example, if one day one of the new administration they were brought to task, it would be too soon. So that is a time to play nice. If we wait until the last day of the administration, well, that is obviously a little too much playing nice. So there is a transition from playing nice to taking one to task- so to speak. Where we are in that is a subjective matter.


The quicker the war ends, the fewer people who die. That is all that I am saying....
No disagreement here.


Your seemingly complacent attitude on this subject is a little confusing to me here. Do you really think that when you/we stand up and take our leaders to task that you/we are making little practical difference?
Certainly when we stand up together we can make a difference. It's an interesting phenomenon where the sum is greater than the parts, IMO. I was just referring to myself. Apparently this is the source of some of the issue here, "we" vs. "me", etc.


We were all just stating our opinions of what was going on in the clip right?
Correct.

[John of Des Moines]

What Paul should of said is, "My message 'Freedom is Popular' did did strike home with many people. didn't it? In fact I'm planning to launch an exploratory 2012 Presidential committee to see if there's really support for another run. And if say the committee raises say $30 million by July 4th, I'll seriously consider running."

(And if he does raise $30 million before officially announcing then no going cheap on the Iowa straw poll; best location, air-conditioned tents, big name entertainment, top rate food, and golf carts.)

[amy31416]

Liberals are far more friendly to Ron Paul than the neocons are. If you don't know this, then you haven't been out in the field.

That said, Hillary's probably playing a game.

But, we have an opportunity to attempt to promote classic liberalism (look it up, it's very much like libertarianism). Liberals are not happy with Obama's unwillingness to prosecute Bush officials.

Personally, I don't care about party, I want to see an ethical America. Work on the pro-life stuff later, work on phasing out the Dept of Education later--there are much bigger fish to fry.

[Aratus]

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/04/22/clinton-praises-rep-paul-for-inspiring-enthusiastic-supporters/


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton interrupted her testimony on Capitol Hill today to pay a compliment to Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who made an unsuccessful bid for the GOP presidential nomination last year.

As she finished answering a question from Paul, she added: “And, at the risk of going over our time, I just want to say, having campaigned during the last presidential election, you had the most enthusiastic supporters of anybody I ever saw.”

Paul laughed, and replied, “I love to hear that.”

Clinton wasn’t done. “Well, I mean, my goodness, everywhere I went they were literally running down highways holding your signs.”

That drew laughter from many lawmakers.

“I’ve never had a chance to tell you that,” Clinton went on. “But your message obviously resonated with a lot of people.”

“Thank you,” Paul said.

Before the love-fest could go any further, Foreigh Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman intervened. “You’re going to encourage him!” the California Democrat playfully warned.

as we look ahead to 2012... as we know ms. hillary did not simply luck into a cabinet position, then can we assume ms. hillary is not as upset about the call to audit the Fed as (((drumrolls)) :D .............the FED itself is?

[nbhadja]

It was a fake fucking meaningless compliment! Good god, get over it! I hope the rest of you aren't stupid enough to view Hillary in a more positive light because of it.

The fact that we have 13 pages of it shows that many posters here are TROLLS!!

[Aratus]

nbhadja... if both dennis kucinich & ron paul get their audit of the FED done up a.s.a.p ... does this imply its because our potus can make political hay on how blindsided g.w bush was well into 2011? i took her ease and grace to be TIED into the 1207 thingie that is asking for an audit. she KNOWs its gonna take a while for obama's mistakes to equal those of thah SHRUB! i took her nice remark to imply she's still running for a loftier office!

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

nt

[acptulsa]

Liberals are far more friendly to Ron Paul than the neocons are. If you don't know this, then you haven't been out in the field.

Shh! How do you think we tell the revolutionaries from the lazy asses?!

[purplechoe]

bump, Ron deserves some love for that wonderful speech he gave today... :)

[Bruno]

bump, Ron deserves some love for that wonderful speech he gave today... :)

agree and thanks! I saw this and was like, what, she said that again? :D