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RonPaulVolunteer
04-17-2009, 11:48 PM
We were looking for an issue to focus on, we were all very surprised when everyone was passionate about Fluoride. Or rather, getting RID OF THE STUFF.

If you know any good resources on Fluoride that I might not find through just lots of googling, please post them here.

Original_Intent
04-17-2009, 11:53 PM
http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=29

axiomata
04-18-2009, 12:14 PM
Is this something you are going to do under the CFL banner?

Bryan
04-18-2009, 12:18 PM
http://www.fluoridealert.org

of course that should come up in any google search. :) Had to be said however. :)

RonPaulVolunteer
04-18-2009, 03:05 PM
Is this something you are going to do under the CFL banner?

This is our CFL group, not CFL HQ.

rpfan2008
04-18-2009, 03:13 PM
Dr. Phyllis Mullenix

YouTube - Fluoride - Dr. Phyllis Mullenix pt. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9daqPRUWpMc)

YouTube - Fluoride - Dr. Phyllis Mullenix pt. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QrTcyrrvw&feature=related)

nobody's_hero
04-18-2009, 03:30 PM
Good job going after the critical issues.

Jeremy
04-18-2009, 03:40 PM
Isn't there more important things though?

Jeremy
04-18-2009, 03:40 PM
Good job going after the critical issues.

XD

RonPaulVolunteer
04-18-2009, 05:14 PM
If you guys think Fluoride is NOT the critical issue, you're extremely out of touch.

You can keep going after the symptoms...we're going after the root causes...

Jeremy
04-18-2009, 05:14 PM
._.

Well I watched the videos... sounds scary... but still...

Bryan
04-18-2009, 05:29 PM
I understand stormcommander's point, but part of it depends upon the size of the authority you're going up against and how much backing you already have.

For example, here in Houston it's a lost cause going after this- I'm sure it's not the case for RPV. I just do a workaround and use filters that can take out the fluoride for drinking / cooking. After that, the PPM intake is pretty low.

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 05:38 PM
if you aren't force to drink it... i think there are other more pressing issues.
Just don't drink tap water.

sevin
04-18-2009, 05:38 PM
I just do a workaround and use filters that can take out the fluoride for drinking / cooking. After that, the PPM intake is pretty low.

What kind of filters can actually take out fluoride? I didn't think it was that easy.

Jeremy
04-18-2009, 05:41 PM
I drink mostly water from those gallons of water you buy because the tap water is not ok here. But would there be fluoride in those?

rpfan2008
04-18-2009, 05:43 PM
Fluoride is also added in bottled water.

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 05:45 PM
Fluoride is also added in bottled water.

then form a company that provides bottled water without flouride and let the free market decide.

rpfan2008
04-18-2009, 05:49 PM
then form a company that provides bottled water without flouride and let the free market decide.


Not a bad idea, but you always need BIG money and BIG media to promote any kind of CHANGE...even the most disastrous ones :(

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 05:51 PM
Not a bad idea, but you always need BIG money and BIG media to promote any kind of CHANGE...even the most disastrous ones :(

a good idea is a good idea.
if people share your concern, they will buy the product.
If I buy any sugar containing soda's, I buy Jones Cola because it uses Sugar Cane sugar. I avoid corn syrup.
If enough people care about flouride, they will buy your product.
No need to have a huge CFL mandate about it. Just profit from it.

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 05:52 PM
Just to let people know "Smart Water" is distilled and electrolytes added.
No fluoride in it.

jcarcinogen
04-18-2009, 05:52 PM
Just read the back of any tube of toothpaste: they usually say to call the CDC if INGESTED.

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 05:55 PM
Just read the back of any tube of toothpaste: they usually say to call the CDC if INGESTED.

is chloride any better?

Matt Collins
04-18-2009, 06:02 PM
Why not go for low hanging fruit first? Something that you might have a chance to win and get good PR with? Going after Flouride will label yall as "tin foil hatter conspiracy types" in the minds of the average voter whether your arguments are valid or not.

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Why not go for low hanging fruit first? Something that you might have a chance to win and get good PR with? Going after Flouride will label yall as "tin foil hatter conspiracy types" in the minds of the average voter whether your arguments are valid or not.

agreed.
Even the LP has learned what battles to fight.
This is not one of them.
The free market can solve this issue... so fight for the free market instead.

LibertyEagle
04-18-2009, 06:09 PM
What kind of filters can actually take out fluoride? I didn't think it was that easy.

Reverse osmosis.

Chester Copperpot
04-18-2009, 06:11 PM
We were looking for an issue to focus on, we were all very surprised when everyone was passionate about Fluoride. Or rather, getting RID OF THE STUFF.

If you know any good resources on Fluoride that I might not find through just lots of googling, please post them here.

go to www.nteu280.org.


here ill link it., this is the union of scientists who work at the EPA and theyre all against fluoride.

91% of Americans ingesting artificially fluoridated water are consuming silicofluorides1. This is a class of fluoridation chemicals that includes hydrofluosilicic acid and its salt form, sodium fluorosilicate. These chemicals are collected from the pollution scrubbers of the phosphate fertilizer industry. The scrubber liquors contain contaminants such as arsenic, lead, cadmium, mercury, and radioactive particles2, are legally regulated as toxic waste, and are prohibited from direct dispersal into the environment. Upon being sold (unrefined) to municipalities as fluoridating agents, these same substances are then considered a "product", allowing them to be dispensed through fluoridated municipal water systems to the very same ecosystems to which they could not be released directly. Sodium fluoride, used in the remaining municipalities, is also an industrial waste product that contains hazardous contaminants.


link http://www.nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/flouridestatement.htm

jcarcinogen
04-18-2009, 06:12 PM
When you pay your city's monopoly on water service... you should be paying only for water. It doesn't matter what the free market offers because it gets expensive to cook, etc with free market alternatives when you are forced to pay for the service in the form of a bill tied usually to trash pick up and also through local sales tax.

If they put additives in the local water it is a local issue but they should inform the people that they are are getting more than just water, sodium fluoride, chlorine, whatever the chemical additives.

That is fringe?

torchbearer
04-18-2009, 06:13 PM
When you pay your city's monopoly on water service... you should be paying only for water. It doesn't matter what the free market offers because it gets expensive to cook, etc with free market alternatives when you are forced to pay for the service in the form of a bill tied usually to trash pick up and also through local sales tax.

If they put additives in the local water it is a local issue but they should inform the people that they are are getting more than just water, sodium fluoride, chlorine, whatever the chemical additives.

That is fringe?

Its a losing battle.
If the majority understood, the majority would be outraged.
Maybe try educational pamphlets.

RonPaulVolunteer
04-18-2009, 06:14 PM
if you aren't force to drink it... i think there are other more pressing issues.
Just don't drink tap water.

Thanks, but our concern is for OTHERS. Very few in our entire group drink tap water.



What kind of filters can actually take out fluoride? I didn't think it was that easy.

It isn't easy at all, and we are conducting independent testing to find out which actually can that claim to. Many people claim the Berkey can, but we'll see.


I drink mostly water from those gallons of water you buy because the tap water is not ok here. But would there be fluoride in those?

It depends on the source. The best way is to buy distilled water and ADD BACK your own minerals. Water without minerals is bad for you, and I ended up with a mineral deficiency from doing this. A mineral supplement or adding liquid mineral drops fixes that easily though.



Fluoride is also added in bottled water.

Not usually it isn't. Very few bottled water brands contain fluoride. Some add it back and they must label the bottle as such. The 7RO brands that have gone through a 7-stage purification process contain no fluoride, nor minerals, so again, add them back.



Just read the back of any tube of toothpaste: they usually say to call the CDC if INGESTED.

Yes. It surprises me that it seems most here do not understand what Fluoride does. Fluoride. Fluoride may indeed be the only reason we have the govt we have today. And why are we not having riots like other nations are?? The main side affect of Fluoride is chronic apathy. That's the reason Hitler used it in WW2. We MUST get fluoride out of the water in order to wake the populace up. We are going to do it here, and we're hoping for a chain reaction



is chloride any better?

They are not related in the slightest.



agreed.
Even the LP has learned what battles to fight.
This is not one of them.
The free market can solve this issue... so fight for the free market instead.

This is not a MARKET issue, and that's just ridiculous to think so. That's gotta be the dumbest thing I have ever seen you say. This is about freedom and freeing people's minds from the dullness. And the water you drink contains only about 20% of your fluoride intake. Fluoride is in EVERYTHING processed with water. It has to be removed from the source for you to even substantially reduce your fluoride intake.



Reverse osmosis.

RO only removes about 70% of Fluoride. Better than nothing though.



Why not go for low hanging fruit first? Something that you might have a chance to win and get good PR with? Going after Flouride will label yall as "tin foil hatter conspiracy types" in the minds of the average voter whether your arguments are valid or not.

Because we are very confident we will win this. We were and have remained one of the most active Ron Paul groups in the country, and we have a lot of very smart and well-connected people. We are very serious about this issue. We are going to win.



When you pay your city's monopoly on water service... you should be paying only for water. It doesn't matter what the free market offers because it gets expensive to cook, etc with free market alternatives when you are forced to pay for the service in the form of a bill tied usually to trash pick up and also through local sales tax.

If they put additives in the local water it is a local issue but they should inform the people that they are are getting more than just water, sodium fluoride, chlorine, whatever the chemical additives.

That is fringe?

Thank God some people get it...

It's important for us all to know what Fluoride is and the affects it has on us. Fluoride has remained hidden for too long, but it is one of the main foundations of the NWO and how they are preventing an uprising against them. A Fluoride free people, will BE a free people.

RonPaulVolunteer
04-18-2009, 06:16 PM
Its a losing battle.
If the majority understood, the majority would be outraged.
Maybe try educational pamphlets.

As you think, so it is...

It's catch 22. People don't care about the issue, BECAUSE they have been dulled by the affects of Fluoride... We MUST, MUST get rid of Fluoride. When we do, converting the masses will be so much easier.

RonPaulVolunteer
04-18-2009, 06:27 PM
For those that did not know about Fluoride...

Here's a good primer...

The Hidden Agenda: The Fluoride Deception (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7984669833566646476)

jcarcinogen
04-18-2009, 06:37 PM
For those that did not know about Fluoride...

Here's a good primer...

The Hidden Agenda: The Fluoride Deception (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7984669833566646476)

Friend, you focus too much on just fluoride but it does make you seem fringe to people unaware of how effects the brain, especially in children. I whole heartedly agree with you but you are overemphasizing 1 chemical a lot and you need to
calm down and think about how it is seen by many as OK through disinformation.

Most on this forum are aware but why preach to the choir? If you are working for the CFL and have this agenda you should make you campaign more palatable to the masses.

RonPaulVolunteer
04-18-2009, 06:38 PM
Friend, you focus too much on just fluoride but it does make you seem fringe. I whole heartedly agree with you but you are overemphasizing 1 chemical a lot and you need to
calm down and think about how it is seen by many as OK through disinformation.

Pff... I have been on these boards a wee little while and never even mentioned this before. Stop the BS ok.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Pff... I have been on these boards a wee little while and never even mentioned this before. Stop the BS ok.

Don't let the naysayers get you down, it's as good, and important, an issue as any.

Couple of quick points to make:

EPA considers water with greater than 4 PPM of fluoride content "unfit for human consumption".

Fluorides can be removed from water, but not through filtration.

It must be removed through adsorption, very basically, the process of running the water through a media that absorbs the flouride into a special media.

Here's a whole house system for $700

http://www.equinox-products.com/images/FluorideMaster/FluorideMaster-Whole-House-Water-Filter-System.jpg

http://www.equinox-products.com/FluorideMaster.htm#How%20does%20the%20FluorideMast erô%20system%20work?

rpfan2008
04-19-2009, 04:47 AM
Flouride Deception (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2886269353175462948)

Objectivist
04-19-2009, 05:10 AM
Removal? How much is in your water or the water you want it removed from?

HealthActivist
04-19-2009, 07:12 PM
Why not go for low hanging fruit first? Something that you might have a chance to win and get good PR with? Going after Flouride will label yall as "tin foil hatter conspiracy types" in the minds of the average voter whether your arguments are valid or not.

LOL, "tin foil hatter" seriously, LOL..

Ok, but, I think this is a serious issue to go after. It should be the entire US's main problem to fix. Or, as far as I see.

I seriously didn't know fluoride-alert.org was you guys. Seriously, nice stuff!!! Makes better since to cure the cause and not the symptom. But, it'd be good to mention some ways people can get over cancer.

Provide links on everything. Stock pile huge amounts of studies, and link them all to the site. Could also stock pile doctor's names whom were involved in the science behind the effects of fluoride on humans and other animals. Link the Dr.'s names to their studies. This will give more of a flow to allow people to understand everything more clearly and to know how big of a movement this is.


Let me know if you want a ton of resources on cannabinoids and cancer, auto-immune diseases, neurodegeneration, and inflammatory diseases..

Here is some on fluoride:

http://www.fluorideresearch.org/
http://kidshealth.org/parent/general/teeth/fluoride.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1683989
http://www.examiner.com/x-5148-LA-Environmental-Health-Examiner~y2009m4d1-EPA-report-present-fluoride-levels-unsafe
http://www.healthy.net/scr/news.asp?Id=8877
http://www.fluoride-journal.com/02-35-2/352-073.pdf
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=second-thoughts-on-fluoride
http://dels.nas.edu/dels/rpt_briefs/fluoride_brief_final.pdf
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/#human
http://www.sustainabilitycentre.com.au/F_SilenceBarrier.pdf
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/San+Francisco+Supervisors+Request+Legislative+Anal ysis+of+Fluoride+...-a062696581
http://www.ianrpubs.unl.edu/epublic/pages/publicationD.jsp?publicationId=406
http://www.fluoride-journal.com/98-31-2/312103.htm#John%20Colquhoun
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_261/ai_n13648126/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/Health__Science/Joint_pain_It_could_be_fluorosis/articleshow/825569.cms

Let's get this poison out of our water!!

RonPaulFanInGA
04-19-2009, 07:20 PM
If you guys think Fluoride is NOT the critical issue, you're extremely out of touch.

You can keep going after the symptoms...we're going after the root causes...

O....kay. While you're at it with the biggest issue of the day; the stuff found in toothpaste, why not simultaneously go after RFID chips and what really happened on September 11, 2001 and Obama's birth certificate? You know, the whole shebang.

HealthActivist
04-19-2009, 07:31 PM
Removal? How much is in your water or the water you want it removed from?

About 1mg of fluoride per litter of water in areas that arnt fluoridated. And, 4mg per litter or so in areas that are fluoridated.


It is suggested that fluoride should never surpass 1mg per litter or it's toxic effects are more noticeable. Granted, excluding children, the effects of fluoride take over 20 years to become apparent. Excluding the smaller stuff such as dental fluorosis. My main concern is the life threatening risks and children.

Kids usually show signs of fluoride toxicity rather quick. The neurotoxin does the most damage to those who are still growing, often producing symptoms of ADHD and low IQ score. (Yes, I'm calling "low IQ score" a symptom of a drug.)

He Who Pawns
04-19-2009, 07:42 PM
lmao, Fluoride??

how about cutting spending and reducing the size of government? once you've done that, you can focus on Fluoride.

Fluoride = Tinfoil to 99% of Americans.

Ninja Homer
04-19-2009, 08:58 PM
You can absorb more fluoride through your skin by taking a shower than you can get by drinking fluoridated water all day. Taking fluoride out of your drinking water isn't enough. If you're on fluoridated public water, you really need a whole house treatment system.

Better yet, install a well. There's a lot to be said for having control of your own water supply.

RonPaulVolunteer
04-19-2009, 09:14 PM
You know, if you ass-hats have nothing better to say, seriously, just FUCK OFF and leave the forums, and Bryan/Josh, don't edit this, these clowns need to be told. If you can't see the forest for the trees, you need to get out of the Liberty Forest.

Fluoride is a well established neurotoxin that is poisoning virtually the entire population. Hitler used it for one of its main effects, chronic apathy to very successfully subdue American POWs, the chinese have used it for centuries to reduce the fertility of the population, and all you naysayers just show the rest of us how amazingly effective it is at apathy. If you want to feed a poison to your child, you ought to be locked up.

The American education levels start their collapse coinciding with the introduction of Fluoride. It works.

libertarian4321
04-19-2009, 09:38 PM
O....kay. While you're at it with the biggest issue of the day; the stuff found in toothpaste, why not simultaneously go after RFID chips and what really happened on September 11, 2001 and Obama's birth certificate? You know, the whole shebang.

Wait, don't leave out chem trails, the Kennedy assassination, New World Order, Obama is a secret Muslim, Bilderbergers/CFR/Illuminati/Trilateral commision/international bankers, FEMA Camps, and black helicopters!

If I've left any prominent conspiracy theories out, I apologize- feel free to add to the list.

torchbearer
04-19-2009, 09:40 PM
You know, if you ass-hats have nothing better to say, seriously, just FUCK OFF and leave the forums, and Bryan/Josh, don't edit this, these clowns need to be told. If you can't see the forest for the trees, you need to get out of the Liberty Forest.

Fluoride is a well established neurotoxin that is poisoning virtually the entire population. Hitler used it for one of its main effects, chronic apathy to very successfully subdue American POWs, the chinese have used it for centuries to reduce the fertility of the population, and all you naysayers just show the rest of us how amazingly effective it is at apathy. If you want to feed a poison to your child, you ought to be locked up.

The American education levels start their collapse coinciding with the introduction of Fluoride. It works.

I'm thinking you've drank too much fluoride as a child.
Chill the fuck out man. save that energy for the fight.

libertarian4321
04-19-2009, 09:48 PM
You know, if you ass-hats have nothing better to say, seriously, just FUCK OFF and leave the forums, and Bryan/Josh, don't edit this, these clowns need to be told. If you can't see the forest for the trees, you need to get out of the Liberty Forest.

Fluoride is a well established neurotoxin that is poisoning virtually the entire population. Hitler used it for one of its main effects, chronic apathy to very successfully subdue American POWs, the chinese have used it for centuries to reduce the fertility of the population, and all you naysayers just show the rest of us how amazingly effective it is at apathy. If you want to feed a poison to your child, you ought to be locked up.

The American education levels start their collapse coinciding with the introduction of Fluoride. It works.

How are "American education levels" collapsing? A far greater percentage of the American population graduates from HS, college, and grad school than in the 1950s, when widespread fluoridation began.

Regarding fluoridation. I'm not a fan of it- I believe its better to provide fluoride prophylaxis/treatment as needed for dental problems. However, if we start spreading conspiracy theory stuff like "fluoride is being introduced into the water to control you just like Hitler did", we will (rightly) be labeled "tin foil hatters."

If we can easily be dismissed as conspiracy theorists/tin foil hatters, we will be quickly marginalized, and, therefore, ineffective.

He Who Pawns
04-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Wait, don't leave out chem trails, the Kennedy assassination, New World Order, Obama is a secret Muslim, Bilderbergers/CFR/Illuminati/Trilateral commision/international bankers, FEMA Camps, and black helicopters!

If I've left any prominent conspiracy theories out, I apologize- feel free to add to the list.

You forgot about Bigfoot. I'm sure RonPaulVolunteer will solve that mystery as the next item on his agenda.

Bman
04-19-2009, 09:56 PM
We were looking for an issue to focus on, we were all very surprised when everyone was passionate about Fluoride. Or rather, getting RID OF THE STUFF.

If you know any good resources on Fluoride that I might not find through just lots of googling, please post them here.

What's your plan of attack.

Because if it is to get some regulations passed.. well NO THANK YOU!!!

RonPaulVolunteer
04-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Look, if you don't like what we're doing, just STFU... You are not going to deter us in the slightest. Go back to your fluoride induced apathy and keep treating the symptoms of our problems while the rest of us with functioning brains and science on our side start doing the real work ok.

He Who Pawns
04-19-2009, 10:15 PM
Look, if you don't like what we're doing, just STFU... You are not going to deter us in the slightest. Go back to your fluoride induced apathy and keep treating the symptoms of our problems while the rest of us with functioning brains and science on our side start doing the real work ok.

I think after this, you should try to get your local CFL group to end the menace of alien abductions.

libertarian4321
04-19-2009, 10:25 PM
I think after this, you should try to get your local CFL group to end the menace of alien abductions.

You got that right- why just last night, the little green bastards took me aboard the mothership and conducted hideous experiments on me.

Thank God I don't remember any of it because of all that fluoride in my system!

Oh, wait, I do remember...damned ineffective mind controlling fluoride- the government must have bought the cheap stuff from a low bidder!

Roxi
04-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Just to let people know "Smart Water" is distilled and electrolytes added.
No fluoride in it.


THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

this is my favorite water and i advocate it as often as possible, its the best tasting bottled water i have ever had, and it makes me feel good

PS i was giving it to my cat and found out magnesium is bad for their bladders and kidneys... so don't give smart water to your pets :)

heres the site

www.glaceau.com

(all scientific info can be found on the site in pdf form)

RonPaulVolunteer
04-19-2009, 10:39 PM
(all scientific info can be found on the site in pdf form)

Shhh... Don't mention science, it's clearly anathema to some around these parts...

libertarian4321
04-19-2009, 10:51 PM
Shhh... Don't mention science, it's clearly anathema to some around these parts...

Be careful.

I'll bet you any amount that most scientists will NOT agree with the "fluoride is being used for mind control" bit. I'll also bet that most of them do not even find that low levels of fluoride present a significant public health threat.

Bman
04-19-2009, 10:58 PM
Shhh... Don't mention science, it's clearly anathema to some around these parts...

Especially, when talking about evolution.

dannno
04-19-2009, 11:31 PM
then form a company that provides bottled water without flouride and let the free market decide.



You have to admit that would work a lot better if there wasn't fluoride already in the water ;)

RonPaulFanInGA
04-19-2009, 11:41 PM
Don't get me wrong, RonPaulVolunteer. I'm glad you're active with the Campaign for Liberty and your CFL group. It'd nice if there were more like that. But when we got a President pushing socialism, higher taxes, gun control, etc., etc.....you know, fluoride just ain't gonna be an issue that many of us can care about. And to most Americans, it is a tinfoil hat-wearer issue.

RonPaulFanInGA
04-19-2009, 11:42 PM
I'll bet you any amount that most scientists will NOT agree with the "fluoride is being used for mind control" bit. I'll also bet that most of them do not even find that low levels of fluoride present a significant public health threat.

Yeah, the ones already drinking the fluoride. ;)

torchbearer
04-20-2009, 09:19 AM
You have to admit that would work a lot better if there wasn't fluoride already in the water ;)

see smart water. they figured it out.

Danke
04-20-2009, 09:57 AM
You can absorb more fluoride through your skin by taking a shower than you can get by drinking fluoridated water all day. Taking fluoride out of your drinking water isn't enough. If you're on fluoridated public water, you really need a whole house treatment system.

Better yet, install a well. There's a lot to be said for having control of your own water supply.

I have been taking "fluoride" showers and drinking fluoride water all my life.

As a military veteran with over 100 combat missions over Iraq in the 90's, and now a patriot currently fighting against the government (in many more ways than one) that may even someday land me in jail, how can you guys claim fluoride leads to passivity? I am also a black belt in judo and a hockey defense man (I love to check). I was just at the gun range yesterday.

Or am I immune to fluoride?

P.S. That was more for RonPaulVolunteer, as you did not make those claims.

eduardo89
04-20-2009, 10:00 AM
In Germany it's illegal to add fluoride to water. They consider it compulsory medication.

torchbearer
04-20-2009, 10:04 AM
I have been taking "fluoride" showers and drinking fluoride water all my life.

As a military veteran with over 100 combat missions over Iraq in the 90's, and now a patriot currently fighting against the government (in many more ways than one) that may even someday land me in jail, how can you guys claim fluoride leads to passivity? I am also a black belt in judo and a hockey defense man (I love to check). I was just at the gun range yesterday.

Or am I immune to fluoride?

P.S. That was more for RonPaulVolunteer, as you did not make those claims.

Flouride doesn't lead to passivity, because everyone on this forum has been exposed to flouride daily all their lives whether they know it or not.
I'm not saying the shit is good for you, but the supposed side effects don't seem to be working on us kooks.

RonPaulVolunteer
04-20-2009, 11:41 AM
Flouride doesn't lead to passivity, because everyone on this forum has been exposed to flouride daily all their lives whether they know it or not.
I'm not saying the shit is good for you, but the supposed side effects don't seem to be working on us kooks.

That is the f****n dumbest thing I have ever heard a grown man say. Did you go to school even?

HealthActivist
04-20-2009, 11:42 AM
How are "American education levels" collapsing? A far greater percentage of the American population graduates from HS, college, and grad school than in the 1950s, when widespread fluoridation began.

Regarding fluoridation. I'm not a fan of it- I believe its better to provide fluoride prophylaxis/treatment as needed for dental problems. However, if we start spreading conspiracy theory stuff like "fluoride is being introduced into the water to control you just like Hitler did", we will (rightly) be labeled "tin foil hatters."

If we can easily be dismissed as conspiracy theorists/tin foil hatters, we will be quickly marginalized, and, therefore, ineffective.


Compare IQ of kids in communities with high levels of fluoride with those of low fluoride. You will find something horrible..

Compare the IQ's of people in the UK, against people in the US. There needs to be a reason for overall US decline in intelligence of kids. Notice most other countries surpass the kids in our country..

HealthActivist
04-20-2009, 11:43 AM
Flouride doesn't lead to passivity, because everyone on this forum has been exposed to flouride daily all their lives whether they know it or not.
I'm not saying the shit is good for you, but the supposed side effects don't seem to be working on us kooks.


WTF?!?! Ok. You don't even know what fluoride is.

Just do a bit of research on the chemical fluoride, and it's attachments to other substances. Say aluminum? What does that mean?!?!

torchbearer
04-20-2009, 11:49 AM
I've just read two objection to what I wrote, but no information in the rebuttal but childish insults.
This leads the other readers to believe you have no information.
Perhaps you'd like to show how all of us are pacified by fluoride and how we came to be here in a chemically induced zombie state.

axiomata
04-20-2009, 11:55 AM
This is our CFL group, not CFL HQ.
I see that you are getting feisty with other posters who don't share your concern for fluoridation, but I hope that you might calmly consider what I say. Why not form a unique group, using your local CFL member rolls if you want, to advocate against fluoridation?

Fluoridation is not mentioned in CFL principals, and it is politically unpopular (see what happened to the John Birch Society once they made it an issue.)

RonPaulVolunteer
04-21-2009, 01:25 PM
I see that you are getting feisty with other posters who don't share your concern for fluoridation, but I hope that you might calmly consider what I say. Why not form a unique group, using your local CFL member rolls if you want, to advocate against fluoridation?

Fluoridation is not mentioned in CFL principals, and it is politically unpopular (see what happened to the John Birch Society once they made it an issue.)

Oh shoot, and of course we should only do POPULAR things...

And for those that are asking for data, it was all provided for you on the first page. SO stop asking when you're clearly just too damn lazy (there's that fluoride again, works real well hu!) to watch a few movies or read a few web pages.