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FrankRep
04-07-2009, 06:52 AM
Phone calls needed: Support Texas Sovereignty


Lowanna Munden (Houston, TX) wrote...

The Texas 8th district coordinator on Resistnet has just had a conversation with the clerk of the State Affairs Committee. He was told that they need phone calls to show enough interest to actually bring the bills to a hearing before the committee. Leo Berman is in the 6th district he is the author of HCR 76 Texas Sovereignty Brandon Creighton is in the 8th District he is the author of HCR 50 Texas Sovereignty The Clerk is Leslie French and her phone number is (512) 463-0814. The clerk was not forth coming with the amount of interest needed to bring these bills to set up a hearing for them. So....lets see how many phone calls she needs....
Both 50 and 76 have had the authors specifically ask for hearings before the committee.

american.swan
04-07-2009, 08:26 AM
Sorry, but unless this bill that might be brought before said committee if we hound them enough has some hard hitting action and not worthless words, this is useless.

We need to get off these stupid sovereignty bills and get into some real action bills like a state reaffirming it's sovereignty, not by sending useless letters to D.C., but by notifying sheriffs and law enforcement in the state to ignore all federal criminal laws and to enforce "freedom" by protecting the individual from grievous federal unconstitutional encroachment. For example, setting up local military like units and rather than arresting tax protesters guard their homes from federal encroachment.

Scott38
04-14-2009, 07:01 AM
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

Cowlesy
04-14-2009, 07:03 AM
Sorry Swan --- looks like the grassroot'rs got traction with this one. Even Rick "Apache Chief" Perry is on board and supports Brandon Creighton's HCR 50 to reaffirm Texas Sovereignty.


Clearly Rick Perry is setting himself up for a 2012 run, but for the first time I will applaud him if he helps push this through the Texas legislature.

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

Michael Ingram
04-14-2009, 07:14 AM
Also on the top of Drudge Report :D

Cowlesy
04-14-2009, 07:16 AM
merged threads

Michael Ingram
04-14-2009, 07:19 AM
What's Rick Perry's overall record like?

Cowlesy
04-14-2009, 07:24 AM
What's Rick Perry's overall record like?

He was a big supporter of the TransNational Texas Superhighway thing, so he fails huge there. Also, and Texans correct me if I am wrong, he's a big war cheerleader.

CaseyJones
04-14-2009, 07:28 AM
war supporter yes
supports trans texas corridor yes
tried to make it mandatory for all teenage girls in texas to get gardasil shots yes
Bilderburg attendee yes

FrankRep
04-14-2009, 07:31 AM
What's Rick Perry's overall record like?

Rick Perry is no friend of liberty, horrible record.
He will most likely run for president, that's his motivation.

paulitics
04-14-2009, 07:45 AM
Now Glenn Beck is saying he will break his own rule of not allowing politiicans at his rallies, by having the neocon Rick Perry speak. Rick Perry is identical to George Bush on almost every issue.

He is now shilling for this neocon puppet. 15 minutes ago, he was poking fun of RP supporters who want him to talk about the Fed.

rp4prez
04-14-2009, 07:46 AM
I was a delegate to the Travis county republican convention and Rick Perry was the key note speaker. He was booed on stage and booed off stage at his own party's function. It was awesome. haha.

paulitics
04-14-2009, 07:50 AM
I was a delegate to the Travis county republican convention and Rick Perry was the key note speaker. He was booed on stage and booed off stage at his own party's function. It was awesome. haha.

Yep, he is hated by alot of people. The media is trying the best to manufacture a different image. I don't think it will work with this guy. He has too much baggage.

MsDoodahs
04-14-2009, 08:18 AM
Thanks for this thread, I've got to head to the local tea party but will call my state rep about this as soon as I'm back here.

(Sporting my Medina for Governor tee :D)

Stary Hickory
04-14-2009, 08:20 AM
Well it's one step at a time. I think the currency crisis will usher in a great deal of changes and challenges to big government. The country is poised to explode already because of totalitarianism. A currency crisis will be a big spark imo.

cjhowe
04-14-2009, 08:23 AM
A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves


Who's job is it to assert that Texas govern itself? Maybe the Governor? State sovereignty resolutions are only needed because governors are not keeping the heavy hand of the federal government out of their state. Perry's press conference is an acknowledgment that he isn't doing his job.

MikeStanart
04-14-2009, 08:31 AM
He's only doing this to appeal to conservatives....

Because he knows otherwise he'd lose the next election.

This is a strategic campaign move, nothing more.

He Who Pawns
04-14-2009, 08:34 AM
So Perry is a real neocon huh?

I couldn't care less about the Bilderberg thing.

FrankRep
04-14-2009, 09:01 AM
Texas Governor Rick Perry Endorses Giuliani
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7/1182


Trans-Texas Corridor Born Again As “Innovative Connectivity Plan”
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/4346


North American Union, Bilderberg & Gov. Rick Perry
http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2007/08/north_american_1.html


Texas governor clears way for NAFTA superhighway
Vetoes legislation to delay big transportation corridor
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56309


Texas House of Representatives Defies Governor (Perry) on Mandatory Gardasil Vaccine
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/1008-texas-house-of-representatives-defies-governor-on-mandatory-gardasil-vaccine


What Could Be Worse Than Perry's Vaccination Order? Well ...
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/888-what-could-be-worse-than-perrys-vaccination-order-well-


Texas Governor Orders Anti-Cervical Cancer Vaccine for Little Schoolgirls
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/885-texas-governor-orders-anti-cervical-cancer-vaccine-for-little-schoolgirls

LibertyEagle
04-14-2009, 09:04 AM
He's only doing this to appeal to conservatives....

Because he knows otherwise he'd lose the next election.

This is a strategic campaign move, nothing more.

He only got like 30% of the vote last time, right? He's not winning many hearts with that number.

If Deb Medina actually runs and decides SOON, and if a whole bunch of us work our ever lovin' butts off, we actually could win this.

He Who Pawns
04-14-2009, 09:12 AM
If you close and your eyes and just listen to his speech on youtube, it almost sounds like W. :eek:

danielboon
04-14-2009, 09:42 AM
he"s scared because he knows the tide is going against him. freedom is marching !!!

FrankRep
04-14-2009, 09:47 AM
Number one search on Google!

1st -> 10th amendment
39th -> hcr 50
58th -> texas sovereignty
96th -> tenth amendment

http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends

AuH2O
04-14-2009, 10:06 AM
Sorry, but unless this bill that might be brought before said committee if we hound them enough has some hard hitting action and not worthless words, this is useless.

We need to get off these stupid sovereignty bills and get into some real action bills like a state reaffirming it's sovereignty, not by sending useless letters to D.C., but by notifying sheriffs and law enforcement in the state to ignore all federal criminal laws and to enforce "freedom" by protecting the individual from grievous federal unconstitutional encroachment. For example, setting up local military like units and rather than arresting tax protesters guard their homes from federal encroachment.

I'm with you. All these bills do is give cover to bad politicians because they can support it knowing it has no teeth.

fedup100
04-14-2009, 10:24 AM
What's Rick Perry's overall record like?

He and Bush pee through the same quill. This is just posturing for he may very well be the front runner for President after the new RP movement has been neocon'd.

Mark it down folks, they are going to beat this new Glen Beck/RP movement into a frenzy and then introduce all you that have been duped to your new neocon candidates.

Yeah, I know, you will stop it when that happens. Not unless you take down the government controlled media along with the federal reserve. The MEDIA IS THE WALL AROUND THE ESTABLISHMENT!!

smithtg
04-14-2009, 10:25 AM
perry has some blago hair too

best of both worlds?


I live in TX and yes, most people hate him

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/v3/03-19-2008.NSW_19RickPerry.GJA2C53FB.1.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/blagojevich.jpg

MsDoodahs
04-14-2009, 12:37 PM
[QUOTE=smithtg;2074961]perry has some blago hair too

OMG! BLAGO HAIR!

That is hilarious!

eta the most important part:

I called the number for that Leslie person, she has a RECORDING on now, taking names and numbers to call people back.

lol....

Badger Paul
04-14-2009, 12:47 PM
It's an opportunist move on his part, do not forget this. He has a primary next year and he's trying to make friends anywhere he can.

But welcome it in any case. Once the politicans start coming along you know what you are doing is popular and working

FrankRep
04-14-2009, 01:26 PM
It's an opportunist move on his part, do not forget this. He has a primary next year and he's trying to make friends anywhere he can.

Correct. He will most likely run for president, that's his motivation.

Slutter McGee
04-14-2009, 03:00 PM
Rick Perry's problem is not that he is a neocon (and he is), but rather that his is an aggie.

He supports all male cheerleaders, dog worshiping, and worthless football programs.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Wadesc
04-14-2009, 04:08 PM
Perry is no friend of ours.

Total Neocon who cannot be trusted. Here in Texas I don't know too many of our folks that support this man. This is somekind of idiotic stunt.

Virginia Libertarian
04-14-2009, 09:23 PM
breaking news on drudge report - http://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

Met Income
04-14-2009, 09:31 PM
I <3 this. Hopefully they can lead the way.

TheConstitutionLives
04-14-2009, 09:31 PM
Perry is trash. He's' just positioning himself for a potential run is all he's doing. He has zero backbone.

FrankRep
04-14-2009, 09:50 PM
Perry is no friend of ours.

Total Neocon who cannot be trusted. Here in Texas I don't know too many of our folks that support this man. This is somekind of idiotic stunt.
Perry has a history of violating the Constitution. This is a stunt to set him up to run for president.


Texas Governor Rick Perry Endorses Giuliani
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7/1182


Trans-Texas Corridor Born Again As “Innovative Connectivity Plan”
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/4346


North American Union, Bilderberg & Gov. Rick Perry
http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2007/08/north_american_1.html


Texas governor clears way for NAFTA superhighway
Vetoes legislation to delay big transportation corridor
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56309


Texas House of Representatives Defies Governor (Perry) on Mandatory Gardasil Vaccine
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/1008-texas-house-of-representatives-defies-governor-on-mandatory-gardasil-vaccine


What Could Be Worse Than Perry's Vaccination Order? Well ...
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/888-what-could-be-worse-than-perrys-vaccination-order-well-


Texas Governor Orders Anti-Cervical Cancer Vaccine for Little Schoolgirls
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/885-texas-governor-orders-anti-cervical-cancer-vaccine-for-little-schoolgirls

SWATH
04-14-2009, 10:26 PM
If Perry is supporting it then it may mean that he knows it has zero chance of passing.

Kotin
04-14-2009, 10:27 PM
If Perry is supporting it then it may mean that he knows it has zero chance of passing.

no I hear it is the opposite in fact..

every state rep and senator I have spoken with said they are excited about the bill and will support it..


but yes its still a political move, but it helps nonetheless..

Athan
04-14-2009, 11:01 PM
The guy has done something right for once!

TRosen75
04-14-2009, 11:19 PM
He only got like 30% of the vote last time, right? He's not winning many hearts with that number.

If Deb Medina actually runs and decides SOON, and if a whole bunch of us work our ever lovin' butts off, we actually could win this.

I wouldn't doubt the fact that she is running; she is simply waiting for the best and most effective moment to announce. Regardless, grassroots activity can (and is beginning to) explode with enthusiasm as much now as it could after any announcement.

arbnranger
04-14-2009, 11:38 PM
Regardless of his past, I liked what he had to say and liked how it said it.

50calray
04-14-2009, 11:41 PM
Well it's a political move but it's the right one.

Dustancostine
04-15-2009, 01:10 AM
I wouldn't doubt the fact that she is running; she is simply waiting for the best and most effective moment to announce. Regardless, grassroots activity can (and is beginning to) explode with enthusiasm as much now as it could after any announcement.

I agree that enthusiasm is exploding. We (Tyler and I and many others) have been coordinating volunteers for Debra at the Tea Parties. We printed out 10000 flyers and 120 shirts and thought that would be plenty and we would be happy to have volunteers at 15-20 Tea Parties, well we now have gotten all the flyers out and all of the shirts out, people are still asking for more and we are going to have a presence at between 45-50 Tea Parties in Texas and Deb is speaking at 3 of them tomorrow.

On the other hand I think there is still a ton of support to come once she formally announces. And I can't wait, the r3VOLution round 2, texas style.:D

terlinguatx
04-16-2009, 09:50 AM
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ScotTX
04-16-2009, 10:41 AM
Perry's just jumping on our wave, don't buy his BS. It is an electrion year, ya know ;) I do like the talk of Texas Independence, though, and I was compelled to go to the capitol last week to hear him endorse HCR50 with my own ears. These are exciting times for Texas!

FrankRep
04-16-2009, 10:49 AM
Perry has a history of violating the Constitution. This is a stunt to set him up to run for president.


Texas Governor Rick Perry Endorses Giuliani
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7/1182


Trans-Texas Corridor Born Again As “Innovative Connectivity Plan”
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/4346


North American Union, Bilderberg & Gov. Rick Perry
http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2007/08/north_american_1.html


Texas governor clears way for NAFTA superhighway
Vetoes legislation to delay big transportation corridor
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56309


Texas House of Representatives Defies Governor (Perry) on Mandatory Gardasil Vaccine
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/1008-texas-house-of-representatives-defies-governor-on-mandatory-gardasil-vaccine


What Could Be Worse Than Perry's Vaccination Order? Well ...
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/888-what-could-be-worse-than-perrys-vaccination-order-well-


Texas Governor Orders Anti-Cervical Cancer Vaccine for Little Schoolgirls
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/885-texas-governor-orders-anti-cervical-cancer-vaccine-for-little-schoolgirls

FrankRep
04-16-2009, 10:51 AM
State of Texas Affirms 10th Amendment


Written by Ann Shibler
Thursday, 16 April 2009


From the office of the Governor of Texas comes an affirmation of the 10th Amendment.

Governor Rick Perry’s statement (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/) in support of states’ rights comes in the form of HCR 50 which affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government. It reads in part:


I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state. That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.


HCR 50 designates that all federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.

In his speech (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/12228/), Perry reiterated that state sovereignty is something the Founding Fathers knew was necessary to keep the power and reach of the federal government at bay. In this, he sounds like a true constitutionalist:


I believe the federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state.

Texans need to ask themselves a question: do they side with those in Washington who are pursuing this unprecedented expansion of power? Or do they believe in the individual rights and responsibilities laid out in our foundational documents?

Texans need to stand up and be heard, because this state of affairs cannot continue indefinitely.

Returning to the letter and the spirit of the U.S. Constitution, and its essential Tenth Amendment, will free our state and, ultimately, strengthen our Union.

Of course, one has to keep in mind this is the same Governor Perry who is up for re-election in 2010, so the campaign can be considered "on." His encouragement for, and support of home schooling (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/12221/) last week was equally as remarkable as his words supporting the 10th Amendment, but again, consider this could be a segue into a full campaign push. Almost certainly, he will need to win the support of conservative constitutionalists if he is to be successful, and this could be nothing more than political posturing to that end.

Indeed, not to be forgotten is that Perry, sadly, is the same man who consistently supports the Trans-Texas Corridor (http:// http//www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/682-express-route-to-poverty) against the wishes of the citizens of the great state of Texas, carrying the torch and never letting it drop for federal officials who would see the completion of the corridor.

Still, it’s nice that someone who appears to be quite entrenched in the politics and politicians of the day would have the courage to speak out on states’ rights, considering by doing so he could be labeled a right-wing terrorist.


SOURCE:
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/news-feed-archive/4755

FSP-Rebel
04-16-2009, 11:17 AM
Perry sure wouldn't be whining about TX independence if McCain got elected.

Cowlesy
04-16-2009, 11:20 AM
Perry sure wouldn't be whining about TX independence if McCain got elected.

:)

Nor would sunshine republicans be bitching about taxes.

It's almost comical.

StilesBC
04-16-2009, 11:27 AM
LOL. I wouldn't trust him. These scumbags will say anything to get reelected.

georgiaboy
04-16-2009, 11:32 AM
did he take the federal bailout stimulus money? think this violates the 10th amendment?

actions, people, actions.

Bern
04-16-2009, 11:58 AM
... Maybe now that he realizes that the white house isn't within grasp he's coming back down to earth and getting his mind right.

This is the kind of thinking that got Obama elected. Perry is a wolf in whatever clothing is politically expedient (or that pays well).

Kotin
04-16-2009, 12:02 PM
nope... but he could be biting off more than he can chew... this could start something bigger than perry..


because he is the only Governor to give legitimacy to this notion of secession and Texas Sovereignty.. we could use this and him.


just remember... he is a tool.. but he could be our tool.

orafi
04-16-2009, 12:10 PM
puck ferry.

vote for the other chick running for governator.

TRosen75
04-16-2009, 01:15 PM
puck ferry.

vote for the other chick running for governator.

Or someone who really believes in the 10th Amendment, election year or not. We have choices, Texans!

FrankRep
04-16-2009, 01:22 PM
Or someone who really believes in the 10th Amendment, election year or not. We have choices, Texans!


TX CFL Coordinator Debra Medina files to run for Governor of Texas

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=179911

FrankRep
04-16-2009, 01:55 PM
Debra Medina For Texas Governor 2010

Face book Page

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=64522411568&ref=nf

RevolutionSD
04-16-2009, 02:13 PM
It boosted my opinion of him to a level that I dare say is close to favorable. After years of debacle and disgust, my strongly negative opinion of the man is starting to sway. Maybe now that he realizes that the white house isn't within grasp he's coming back down to earth and getting his mind right.

He's a Bilderberger and total insider.
They're likely grooming him to run for POTUS in '12.
I wouldn't buy his words, he's a politician after all.
If you go back and listen to what GW Bush was saying when he was Gov of Texas, a lot of it was pretty sensible and somewhat libertarian!

These politicians are all crooks.

FrankRep
04-16-2009, 02:20 PM
He's a Bilderberger and total insider.
They're likely grooming him to run for POTUS in '12.
I wouldn't buy his words, he's a politician after all.
If you go back and listen to what GW Bush was saying when he was Gov of Texas, a lot of it was pretty sensible and somewhat libertarian!

These politicians are all crooks.


Gov. Rick Perry is an insider, correct.

orafi
04-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Or someone who really believes in the 10th Amendment, election year or not. We have choices, Texans!

i was referring to medina, but i couldn't recall her name (thanks frankrep).
.


she owns.

purplechoe
04-16-2009, 02:29 PM
After years of debacle and disgust, my strongly negative opinion of the man is starting to sway. Maybe now that he realizes that the white house isn't within grasp he's coming back down to earth and getting his mind right.

http://waynefontes.com/facepalm.jpeg

damania
04-16-2009, 02:50 PM
Good info on Texas Sovereignty. Texas renews treaty with the federal government to stay within the Union every year. Skp to 24:05 in the video to listen to Jonathan May explain it.

http://www.askbutwhy.com/2009/04/texas-sovereignty-joined-union-by.html

Cowlesy
04-16-2009, 08:43 PM
merged the three active threads on this