Be aware! Who's really behind your local Tea Party?

[Dave]

I'm going to my local Tea Party event next week. I'm pretty sure Campaign For Liberty isn't officially behind any of these events. So who is? It varies by location.

If you check out the "official" website for many of these events at http://taxdayteaparty.com/ you'll see that there's some big money behind this. Sponsors include American Solutions (Newt Gingrich), FreedomWorks (Dick Armey), the GOP, Michelle Malkin, PajamasTV, Smart Girl Politics, and so on. I'm seeing terms from these organizers like Freedom, Liberty, and fiscal responsibility. These events are touted as protests of out of control government spending. They must all be Ron Paul fans, right?

I'm thrilled to have more people waking up and expressing their frustration about where we're headed...but where were all these groups when Campaign For Liberty was fighting the outrageous spending and bailouts of the last administration?

My point isn't to say we shouldn't welcome new people to the cause - quite the contrary. But we need to be aware that the organizers of some of these Tea Parties aren't necessarily "with us" and may well have some objectives of their own.

I've seen solicitations for funds for these events to pay for t-shirts, web and radio advertising, and kybos (look it up). They are having speakers and programs. Do you know who will be speaking? Or who gets to decide who speaks? Or what their solutions are? I've heard that some of the people organizing these events may be affiliated with a particular GOP presidential hopeful. They're even looking for volunteers to walk thru the crowd with clipboards to get contact information. There's nothing wrong with people doing any of this - heck, I hope all of us are recruiting people into CFL at these events. Just be aware that the organizers - and a host of other organizations will be trying to build lists at these events.

People upset about government spending have been fooled over and over again. CFL folks won't be fooled - try to help others keep from being fooled again, too.

Go to your local Tea Party but do some homework on who is running the show. Be an ambassador for Campaign For Libety. Have fun and keep it peaceful.

[MsDoodahs]

Here, my congressman is sponsoring it.

And he's NOT an HR1207 co-sponsor.

:mad:

[LittleLightShining]

I'm running the show in Montpelier VT and it is officially a VT Campaign For Liberty Tea Party.

[Lord Xar]

Here, my congressman is sponsoring it.

And he's NOT an HR1207 co-sponsor.

:mad:

Well, get him on board - maybe he doesn't even know it exists --- I mean, politicians are voting on legislation that will change everything without even reading it, I suppose RP"s bill probably didn't get much notice :-)

This would be a perfect time to approach him... at a tea party!!!!

[BeFranklin]

It isn't surprising that a lot of people are going to be protesting as things get worse. One could argue that people were advocating American Independence for a long time - for instance Benjamin Franklin, and the rest of the people eventually caught up.

[MsDoodahs]

Well, get him on board - maybe he doesn't even know it exists --- I mean, politicians are voting on legislation that will change everything without even reading it, I suppose RP"s bill probably didn't get much notice :-)

This would be a perfect time to approach him... at a tea party!!!!

I've called multiple times about it, so has Josh. His staff told Josh that he isn't going to co-sponsor because "it won't pass anyway."

WTF?

Your JOB, Mr. McCaul, is to TAKE COURAGEOUS STANDS on issues, not wimp out and wait until you have a bunch of RAH RAH cheerleaders standing with you.

My plan is to make a 1207 sign that asks that the crowd demand that he co-sponsor 1207, and take fliers for the crowd with the legislation, the reason it is important, and asking that the tea party goers join me in demanding that he support TRANSPARENCY so that we KNOW who got OUR tax dollars.

I may piss off the entire GOP in this area.

:eek:

[Chieftain1776]

I'm not sure I'm going to go to mine but try not to be like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwdOwgD5OsY

[Spike]

these tea parties are the redneck versions of the revolution, these people focus on Obama not being a citizen and how he's creating a socialist state. They have no idea about the FED. These are probably the same people who were for the Iraq War. Best to stay away, since most of them are clueless

[Paulatized]

The We Surround Them group is sponsoring the one here. Regardless of who's sponsoring it don't miss an opportunity to spread the truth. Print out and hand out C4L and HR 1207 fliers and take an Audit the Fed sign.

[MRoCkEd]

these tea parties are the redneck versions of the revolution, these people focus on Obama not being a citizen and how he's creating a socialist state. They have no idea about the FED. These are probably the same people who were for the Iraq War. Best to stay away, since most of them are clueless
OR educate them

[Spike]

OR educate them

That's a hopeless cause if there ever was one.

The propaganda from people like Rush, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, have already gotten to these people.

Don't get me wrong, I admire their passion and their more resilient than the people on the left side of politics, but they're also more gullible. During the bush era the radicals on the left were afraid to dissent and protest, god knows why, maybe they believed the lie espoused by the right that they were unpatriotic. But now in the obama era these game-changers on the right don't care if their called unpatriotic by the democrats..these people trust their instincts which is admirable, but their ignorance is so dangerous. I don't think supporting their dissent is the wisest path to take..this movement could very well morph into a zealous, right-wing, christian, fascist type movement with a strongman as a leader. I admire dissent, but not this gross, uneducated dissent. Personally, I hope they fail because their backed by devious political participants.

You can try and educate them, but most of them have already seen 'obsession' and so they vehemently support Israel, they think Iran poses a threat, their whole worldview is simply warped and chaotic, they have no cohesion or any sort of wider perspective. They are doomed. God forbid any Ron Paul libertarian actually support and help activate this movement.

[ItsTime]

I figured out who Glenn Beck is and why he wants the tea parties! HIDE YOUR HONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://gremlindog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/honey-tree.jpg

[itshappening]

the mainstream GOPers are hijacking it so they can seem relevent and have something to rail against. it's good for business/ratings and people like Romney who can pretend he is anti bailout just like Obama pretends he is anti-war yet is now expanding the wars

[speciallyblend]

from what i see from msm, the neo-cons have hijacked the tea parties. the fox peeps and all the neo-con republicans need to be called out and disinvited!!!

the msm has now marginalized our tea parties by labeling all of us right wing fox nuts!!! seems to me the neo-con republicans have basically screwed us.

everyone is relating this to the fox nuts and fanatical republicans. the whole idea of the tea parties has now been shit on by the corrupt gop and corrupt msm!!

sigh

[tonesforjonesbones]

I get so sick of the naysayers . Whatever gets people off their butts and into the streets for liberty...It was actually started ..the tea party gig, by one person in seattle washington after that guy on cbs ..the stock market guy..said we need another tea party and it has expanded to 2000 cities. I consider it GREAT to actually see conservatives take to the street...the silent majority is speaking out..and I am glad to see it. FINALLY..and I hope there will be more. It has righteously shaken UP the democrats...or they wouldn't be trying to organize on Huffington post. tones

[nate895]

That's a hopeless cause if there ever was one.

The propaganda from people like Rush, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, have already gotten to these people.

Don't get me wrong, I admire their passion and their more resilient than the people on the left side of politics, but they're also more gullible. During the bush era the radicals on the left were afraid to dissent and protest, god knows why, maybe they believed the lie espoused by the right that they were unpatriotic. But now in the obama era these game-changers on the right don't care if their called unpatriotic by the democrats..these people trust their instincts which is admirable, but their ignorance is so dangerous. I don't think supporting their dissent is the wisest path to take..this movement could very well morph into a zealous, right-wing, christian, fascist type movement with a strongman as a leader. I admire dissent, but not this gross, uneducated dissent. Personally, I hope they fail because their backed by devious political participants.

You can try and educate them, but most of them have already seen 'obsession' and so they vehemently support Israel, they think Iran poses a threat, their whole worldview is simply warped and chaotic, they have no cohesion or any sort of wider perspective. They are doomed. God forbid any Ron Paul libertarian actually support and help activate this movement.

With all due respect, you are a political idiot. These people are the closest to our agenda that there is outside of Ron Paul supporters themselves, if we can't get them on board, we might as well pack up and get brain drained so we don't care that it is all happening.

[speciallyblend]

I get so sick of the naysayers . Whatever gets people off their butts and into the streets for liberty...It was actually started ..the tea party gig, by one person in seattle washington after that guy on cbs ..the stock market guy..said we need another tea party and it has expanded to 2000 cities. I consider it GREAT to actually see conservatives take to the street...the silent majority is speaking out..and I am glad to see it. FINALLY..and I hope there will be more. It has righteously shaken UP the democrats...or they wouldn't be trying to organize on Huffington post. tones

look forward to hearing your voice on fox news;) or another station. they have already watered down the tea parties on msm on all channels..

good luck!! highly doubt the msm will even mention ron paul or the ron paul grassroots movements. they already said its those fox news nuts(right wing republicans) , they will not even mention the true intention of the tea parties.


After Easter Sunday and folks watching msm ,i have a sad feeling april 15th will become a joke after hannity,beck and the fox gang finish with this!!!

[speciallyblend]

With all due respect, you are a political idiot. These people are the closest to our agenda that there is outside of Ron Paul supporters themselves, if we can't get them on board, we might as well pack up and get brain drained so we don't care that it is all happening.

with all due respect , your wrong, those names will only marginalize our movement!

they are not a asset, they are a huge liability!!!


they are an embarrassment, we will see after april 15th!! but the reaction i am getting from family this week is not going good for the tea parties!!

i am so far glad i haven't heard them link us ron paul republicans to this tea party in my area yet! i do not want them uttering my name or ron paul revolution or anything associated with beck,hannity,oreilly or rush!!

those 4 names are only spreading fear and marginalizing our movement. they are stealing your honey and once you figure that out ,it will be to late:(

[nate895]

actually your wrong, those names will only marginalize our movement!

they are not a asset, they are a huge liability!!!


they are an embarrassment, we will see after april 15th!! but the reaction i am getting from family this week is not going good for the tea parties!!

i am so far glad i haven't heard them link us ron paul republicans to this tea party in my area yet! i do not want them uttering my name or ron paul revolution or anything associated with beck,hannity,oreilly or rush!!

those 4 names are only spreading fear and marginalizing our movement. they are stealing your honey and once you figure that out ,it will be to late:(

I am talking about Joe Follower, not the talking heads of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others.

[speciallyblend]

I am talking about Joe Follower, not the talking heads of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others.

ok no worries, i misread. I do not like what i am hearing about these tea parties! it worries me alot:(

[tonesforjonesbones]

we are going to have to stand together...if the movement is to grow. tones

[speciallyblend]

we are going to have to stand together...if the movement is to grow. tones

i hear you ,i do:) we will see how this plays out after april 15th!!

[tonesforjonesbones]

well I am hoping it is successful...and there are no problems with infiltrators...I hope everyone keeps a cool head. tones

[slacker921]

not going is the worst thing you can do.

Make lots of signs and hand them out.. the signs need to show that it's not just an anti-Obama rally.. it's an anti-tax, anti-big government, etc rally.

and if you're saying that the neocons and the almost-dead GOP out organized the Campaign For Liberty and the grassroots...... then.... what does that say?

[Spike]

With all due respect, you are a political idiot. These people are the closest to our agenda that there is outside of Ron Paul supporters themselves, if we can't get them on board, we might as well pack up and get brain drained so we don't care that it is all happening.

Do you honestly want 'joe the plumber' types who are the 'know-nothings' of America, riding in your camp? If you can get to these people and convert them to freedom, god bless you. But be warned, these people are war hungry and scared shitless of arabs and terrorists, they are ego-centric, they perceive foreigners as the enemy when we all damn well know that the enemy to America is domestic and domestic only. They missed the Ron Paul boat last year, what makes you thing they've woken up now? All they do is watch fox news, and listen to right wing talk radio so the propaganda their getting overwhelms anything liberty activists can accomplish.

Maybe it is politically unwise of me to simply dismiss these people...but screw that, I'd rather have an intelligent and irate minority fighting for freedom than a mass of mindless drones repeating the party line and easily manipulated.

Besides, these people are not the closest to the ron paul revolution agenda, the smart left are, the anti-war left, the anti-fed left, the left libertarian, the glenn greenwald types, the people who watched bill moyers interivew of black on pbs. The people who should be in our camp are the educated, smart populace. This revolution will not proceed and breakdown into traditional left/right ideologies. People who are wake across party lines are the closest to our agenda, some of the core principles being ending the fed, end of corporate welfare and end of the empire.

you have faith in these teaparties with michelle malkin being one of the spokesman? Are you kiddin? That is a laughingstock of dissent. What are they actually protesting besides 'obama the bogeyman' ..these people are politically unsound, their primitive, they view the enemy as liberal dems and socialists. Go ahead and educate them, i hope you succeed..

[Joe3113]

I've said this many times...

the GOP Neocons are attempting to co-opt the growing liberty movement so that they can:

1. Block Ron Paul from being recognised as the only figure in the party with any credibility
2. Get the Neocons re-elected.

[MsDoodahs]

not going is the worst thing you can do.

Make lots of signs and hand them out.. the signs need to show that it's not just an anti-Obama rally.. it's an anti-tax, anti-big government, etc rally.

and if you're saying that the neocons and the almost-dead GOP out organized the Campaign For Liberty and the grassroots...... then.... what does that say?

It says that without a VERY FOCUSED and VERY ORGANIZED grassroots - we're screwed.

:(

[tajitj]

This is a perfect opportunity to put our face on this.

C4L will benefit because regular conservative minded people are loving this. Most still do not understand Ron Pauls stance on the issues.

If they here about a local tea party and some C4L members are hosting it most will be introduced to the C4L for the first time.

Sorry to say but FoxNews is giving the protests credibility and will help turn out. We need to turn the tables on them and win the activists to our side.

[qwerty]

Be an ambassador for Campaign For Libety. Have fun and keep it peaceful.

Yeah!

:cool:

[speciallyblend]

Do you honestly want 'joe the plumber' types who are the 'know-nothings' of America, riding in your camp? If you can get to these people and convert them to freedom, god bless you. But be warned, these people are war hungry and scared shitless of arabs and terrorists, they are ego-centric, they perceive foreigners as the enemy when we all damn well know that the enemy to America is domestic and domestic only. They missed the Ron Paul boat last year, what makes you thing they've woken up now? All they do is watch fox news, and listen to right wing talk radio so the propaganda their getting overwhelms anything liberty activists can accomplish.

Maybe it is politically unwise of me to simply dismiss these people...but screw that, I'd rather have an intelligent and irate minority fighting for freedom than a mass of mindless drones repeating the party line and easily manipulated.

Besides, these people are not the closest to the ron paul revolution agenda, the smart left are, the anti-war left, the anti-fed left, the left libertarian, the glenn greenwald types, the people who watched bill moyers interivew of black on pbs. The people who should be in our camp are the educated, smart populace. This revolution will not proceed and breakdown into traditional left/right ideologies. People who are wake across party lines are the closest to our agenda, some of the core principles being ending the fed, end of corporate welfare and end of the empire.

you have faith in these teaparties with michelle malkin being one of the spokesman? Are you kiddin? That is a laughingstock of dissent. What are they actually protesting besides 'obama the bogeyman' ..these people are politically unsound, their primitive, they view the enemy as liberal dems and socialists. Go ahead and educate them, i hope you succeed..

spike i agree with you.. it is not about left or right!!!

[speciallyblend]

I've said this many times...

the GOP Neocons are attempting to co-opt the growing liberty movement so that they can:

1. Block Ron Paul from being recognised as the only figure in the party with any credibility
2. Get the Neocons re-elected.

they have already hi-jacked the tea parties and it seems many ron paul supporters decided it was ok as long as the media covered it, WRONG...

[speciallyblend]

This is a perfect opportunity to put our face on this.

C4L will benefit because regular conservative minded people are loving this. Most still do not understand Ron Pauls stance on the issues.

If they here about a local tea party and some C4L members are hosting it most will be introduced to the C4L for the first time.

Sorry to say but FoxNews is giving the protests credibility and will help turn out. We need to turn the tables on them and win the activists to our side.

hmmmm well i think the opposite, being lumped in with the fox news idiots and the far right wing of the republican party and the neo-cons is a huge NEGATIVE!!!


the best thing we can hope for is they do not mention us or ron paul or the grassroots movement. it has been hi-jacked by the neo-cons/ tea parties.

people already think right wing nuts and fox news with tea party not the ron paul movement!!

i hope this turns out different but watching msm,i think this idea was screwed by the gop neo-cons and fox..

[LittleLightShining]

these tea parties are the redneck versions of the revolution, these people focus on Obama not being a citizen and how he's creating a socialist state. They have no idea about the FED. These are probably the same people who were for the Iraq War. Best to stay away, since most of them are cluelessI'm getting tired of the bitch, whine, moan and complain attitude from a lot of you people. There cannot be a more perfect opportunity for us to spread the message but instead you'd rather throw up your hands and say. "To hell with these war mongers" even if you agree on the economics, the Constitution, the taxes. For crying out loud, people. This is EXACTLY what's wrong with this country. EXACTLY.

Let's just stay divided instead of trying to figure out how to work together. :rolleyes:


OR educate themTHIS.


This is a perfect opportunity to put our face on this.

C4L will benefit because regular conservative minded people are loving this. Most still do not understand Ron Pauls stance on the issues.

If they here about a local tea party and some C4L members are hosting it most will be introduced to the C4L for the first time.

Sorry to say but FoxNews is giving the protests credibility and will help turn out. We need to turn the tables on them and win the activists to our side.And THIS.

[speciallyblend]

I'm getting tired of the bitch, whine, moan and complain attitude from a lot of you people. There cannot be a more perfect opportunity for us to spread the message but instead you'd rather throw up your hands and say. "To hell with these war mongers" even if you agree on the economics, the Constitution, the taxes. For crying out loud, people. This is EXACTLY what's wrong with this country. EXACTLY.

Let's just stay divided instead of trying to figure out how to work together. :rolleyes:

THIS.

And THIS.

well just make sure everyone has at least 45 minutes to explain to every person that we are not the war mongering gop, we are not hannity, we are not beck, we are not oreilly and we are not rush and we are not neo-cons and we are not right wing republicans and we are not war mongering ,big government loving republicans. once we get thru those barriers and time, then we might have a chance with average voters. until then we are spending moretime explaining ourselves away from the corupt gop,by the time we get past that the voter is turned off. everyone thank the useless gop leadership. by the time we battle for control of teh gop and win. we will have won a bag of spoiled manure!!!aka the gop

[LittleLightShining]

well just make sure everyone has at least 45 minutes to explain to every person that we are not the war mongering gop, we are not hannity, we are not beck, we are not oreilly and we are not rush and we are not neo-cons and we are not right wing republicans and we are not war mongering ,big government loving republicans. once we get thru those barriers and time, then we might have a chance with average voters. until then we are spending moretime explaining ourselves away from the corupt gop,by the time we get past that the voter is turned off. everyone thank the useless gop leadership. by the time we battle for control of teh gop and win. we will have won a bag of spoiled manure!!!aka the gop:confused:

I don't need to explain anything but my positions. Seems to have worked for me so far. I'm trying not to focus on the differences. You build bridges. It's sort of like getting dressed. You accentuate the positives.

[speciallyblend]

:confused:

I don't need to explain anything but my positions. Seems to have worked for me so far. I'm trying not to focus on the differences. You build bridges. It's sort of like getting dressed. You accentuate the positives.

i understand what your saying i do,but the fact is my family thinks the tea party is exactly what the news is telling them, so i had to spend almost 45 minutes explaining the reaL REASON. I hope you have ron paul supporters posted next to every voter to explain what i had to . If not then yes get ready to explain away hannity,beck and the rest of the neo-con lovers!!


they just made the job 100 times harder. bad coat tails to ride, enjoy it while it last i guess!!

i personally think it is a bad mistake and everyone here will fell the pain for it soon, i assure you!!



I will spread the message,but i have to spend all my time explaining away all the corrupt gop and the fox idiots, all of them before i can even get thru to anyone. we have at least 8 yrs to hopefully change this tune. we will never retake the gop until we get rid of 99% of the leadership.

in my county the gop is dead and not worth taking over. time to put the dead dog down. We have ron paul dems in office and are working with out democratic party in lake county colorado. Our Dems are more republican and libertarian the nthe gop or lp!!

it is no longer about party. to me the gop is a liability not an asset!

we are basically arguing over a bag of shit and once we win we still have a bag of shit! no one is buying the gop crap and it still stinks!! no amount of febreeze is going to make the shit smell better!! you can put a ribbon on it and say yes we won,but it is still a piece of shit with ribbon on it!!

the problem is the brandname and we have a few yrs to try to save it,but allowing the lil dingleberries(hannity,beck,rush etc to tag along because they help us still leaves a trail of shit..

[speciallyblend]

can anyone show me a msm link where they have informed the viewers that we(ron paul supporters are behind the tea parties and not the fox news nut crazys???

i would like to see a breakdown. from what i see the last thing they will mention is us ron paul people or the movement. they do not want folks knowing we are behind it,so they put up the fox news heads. this is bad not good!!

[speciallyblend]

:confused:

I don't need to explain anything but my positions. Seems to have worked for me so far. I'm trying not to focus on the differences. You build bridges. It's sort of like getting dressed. You accentuate the positives.

trust me i spent 2 yrs building bridges while the gop blew them up....
in most states once you save the gop you now have a brandname problem
in some states the gop should die and in some they might be worth saving.

i think everyone is failing to see the problem with the stinch of the gop.

i know every state is different,but in colorado usually a red state. the last thing i want to admit to anyone is the word republican....


Houston the gop is really screwed. we must get rid of the national gop leaders and most of the state leaders. we have about 4-8 yrs to go and alot of re branding but riding the coat tails of fox news and their idiots is like taking 2 steps forward then walking backwards another 20 steps. we are along way from retaking anything until we figure out how to stop riding the coattails of neo-cons!!!

we will see on april 15th and after. I personally think it is time to split away from the gop before people think we are neo-con dingleberries!!!


just my opinion as a republican. my question will be once we retake the gop will it be worth a dam??? unless we have a miracle in the next 1-3 yrs,by the time we retake the party in 4-8 yrs. we will have a serious brandname problem thanks to the neo-cons and the old right wing and the failed gop leaders who are still the same corrupt bastards we have had the last 20 yrs!!! we are along way from retaking the bag of manure(gop)!! but i am still in the fight,just tired of swimming in gop shit!!!


did you hear alan keyes is behind the tea party. can i get a yippie(sarcasm) these are not assets. so far all i have heard is hannity,rush,beck, alan keyes and the crazies at fox and the religious right. we now have respect, sorry i have to PUKE. yeah we are mving forward??? NOT!!!!

I am praying ,that the last thing they mention on news is us ron paul supporters or liberty minded folks. then we can be related to fascists republicans!!! yippie


expecting hitler(gop leaders) to accept the jews(ron paul republicans) is like expecting us to be freed from the nazi camps by hitler(gop leadership). dream on

the gop brandname is becoing worthless in most states.

i was planning on going to the tea party,but the last thing i want to be related to is those fox news nuts or crazy nazi republicans!! if i go the last thing i will wear is a ron paul shirt! i am actually worried about being labled a fox news nut! the tea parties have been hi-jacked when a person like me is worried about attending an event. i also still need to find a wheelchair for my wife so i can go!!

i am worried about being lumped in with a bunch of crazy neo-cons and right wingers!!! i am battling if i should go to denver on april 15th and being labeled with these folks. i was all for going until fox started their propaganda!

wtf is going on, just a week ago i was excited about going, now i am worried if i should go!!!!

i am sure i will get shit from rpf members for thinking of my wifes safety and what i am showing up to represent!!!

[LibertyEagle]

these tea parties are the redneck versions of the revolution, these people focus on Obama not being a citizen and how he's creating a socialist state. They have no idea about the FED. These are probably the same people who were for the Iraq War. Best to stay away, since most of them are clueless

Huh?

People are coming to these tea parties because they are upset. Many have been watching Glenn Beck, so they've been introduced to a decent part of our message. In my opinion, we'd be absolutely nuts, if we didn't use these events to pass out literature to these people. For the first time in a very long time, their minds are open. Why not capitalize on it?

It's a perfect time to pitch HR1207. No?

[speciallyblend]

Huh?

People are coming to these tea parties because they are upset. Many have been watching Glenn Beck, so they've been introduced to a decent part of our message. In my opinion, we'd be absolutely nuts, if we didn't use these events to pass out literature to these people. For the first time in a very long time, their minds are open. Why not capitalize on it?

It's a perfect time to pitch HR1207. No?

that is what i am thinking of doing hr1207. gonna be looking at second hand stores in colorado to see if i can get a wheelchair for my wife!!

[reduen]

I say go and if you know someone who is going to be there speaking that need to be outed, just make up some handouts with the information against them and give it to everyone who will take it...

Shoot even make videos of them and play them for people on your laptops or a tv that you set up in advance. Seeing is believeing...! EX : (Play something bad that Hanitty, Beck or Romney has said in loop)

Just be sure and go to promote HR:1207 also and you are helping our cause... :cool:

[LittleLightShining]

can anyone show me a msm link where they have informed the viewers that we(ron paul supporters are behind the tea parties and not the fox news nut crazys???

i would like to see a breakdown. from what i see the last thing they will mention is us ron paul people or the movement. they do not want folks knowing we are behind it,so they put up the fox news heads. this is bad not good!!I'll respond to this and your last post. I think it's a waste of time to try to be an apologist for the cause of liberty. There's not enough time in the day to go about it like that. I've accepted the fact that our views on foreign policy differ from that of the msm "conservatives." Instead I will continue to spread the message in a way that makes people want to listen to me. The rest will come.

[JK/SEA]

I hadn't planned on going, but if i do i'm taking a RON PAUL 2012 sign.

[MelissaCato]

Well if we could have gotten Freedom Watch on FOX Cable ... this would a Ron Paul field day yet again. But it's not.

So, everyone in our group of tea partiers are, of course, displaying Ron Paul paraphernalia bigtime, all day. LOL

[Spike]

Huh?

People are coming to these tea parties because they are upset. Many have been watching Glenn Beck, so they've been introduced to a decent part of our message. In my opinion, we'd be absolutely nuts, if we didn't use these events to pass out literature to these people. For the first time in a very long time, their minds are open. Why not capitalize on it?

It's a perfect time to pitch HR1207. No?

Yea. Like I said in one of my previous posts, go for it and I hope you succeed. It is actually a great opportunity. But I personally think that these are the type of people who when given the blue pill or the red pill, will take the blue pill. I guess even converting one or two is better than nothing. Maybe I just don't think activism has a decent chance in an age of mass propaganda---but I could be wrong. Planting seeds here and there may be the way to go

[Real_CaGeD]

If you go, use the 3% brain trust identifier. Ron Paul is no longer the name of a man, It is the signal to each other.

[ronpaulhawaii]

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ok no worries, i misread. I do not like what i am hearing about these tea parties! it worries me alot:(
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spike i agree with you.. it is not about left or right!!!


...hannity,beck and the rest of the neo-con lovers!!

they just made the job 100 times harder. bad coat tails to ride, enjoy it while it last i guess!!

i personally think it is a bad mistake and everyone here will fell the pain for it soon, i assure you!!

I will spread the message,but i have to spend all my time explaining away all the corrupt gop and the fox idiots, all of them before i can even get thru to anyone. we have at least 8 yrs to hopefully change this tune. we will never retake the gop until we get rid of 99% of the leadership.

in my county the gop is dead and not worth taking over. time to put the dead dog down. We have ron paul dems in office and are working with out democratic party in lake county colorado. Our Dems are more republican and libertarian the nthe gop or lp!!

it is no longer about party. to me the gop is a liability not an asset!

we are basically arguing over a bag of shit and once we win we still have a bag of shit! no one is buying the gop crap and it still stinks!! no amount of febreeze is going to make the shit smell better!! you can put a ribbon on it and say yes we won,but it is still a piece of shit with ribbon on it!!

the problem is the brandname and we have a few yrs to try to save it,but allowing the lil dingleberries(hannity,beck,rush etc to tag along because they help us still leaves a trail of shit..

Ah... just wondering how you justify this statement with the one you make directly above it?


Yea. Like I said in one of my previous posts, go for it and I hope you succeed. It is actually a great opportunity. But I personally think that these are the type of people who when given the blue pill or the red pill, will take the blue pill. I guess even converting one or two is better than nothing. Maybe I just don't think activism has a decent chance in an age of mass propaganda---but I could be wrong. Planting seeds here and there may be the way to go

What other peaceful ways are there?


Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead

[TruckinMike]

Huh?

People are coming to these tea parties because they are upset. Many have been watching Glenn Beck, so they've been introduced to a decent part of our message. In my opinion, we'd be absolutely nuts, if we didn't use these events to pass out literature to these people. For the first time in a very long time, their minds are open. Why not capitalize on it?

It's a perfect time to pitch HR1207. No?

Absolutely!!!

Since we are all in agreement then lets go to this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2072049#post2072049) and pick out a flier, go to office depot, print a bunch, and pass them out on April 15th!

Sounds like a good plan to me!:)

TMike

[ronpaulhawaii]

Absolutely!!!

Since we are all in agreement then lets go to this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2072049#post2072049) and pick out a flier, go to office depot, print a bunch, and pass them out on April 15th!

Sounds like a good plan to me!:)

TMike

+1

[TastyWheat]

Both locally and nationally I get the sense these people generally don't care about civil liberties. I expect us to see very little REAL change occur in 2010 and 2012.

[Andrew-Austin]

I cringed when I heard Rick Perry was going to speak at my local tea party.

[Minarchy4Sale]

I'm going to my local Tea Party event next week. I'm pretty sure Campaign For Liberty isn't officially behind any of these events. So who is? It varies by location.

If you check out the "official" website for many of these events at http://taxdayteaparty.com/ you'll see that there's some big money behind this. Sponsors include American Solutions (Newt Gingrich), FreedomWorks (Dick Armey), the GOP, Michelle Malkin, PajamasTV, Smart Girl Politics, and so on. I'm seeing terms from these organizers like Freedom, Liberty, and fiscal responsibility. These events are touted as protests of out of control government spending. They must all be Ron Paul fans, right?

I'm thrilled to have more people waking up and expressing their frustration about where we're headed...but where were all these groups when Campaign For Liberty was fighting the outrageous spending and bailouts of the last administration?

My point isn't to say we shouldn't welcome new people to the cause - quite the contrary. But we need to be aware that the organizers of some of these Tea Parties aren't necessarily "with us" and may well have some objectives of their own.

I've seen solicitations for funds for these events to pay for t-shirts, web and radio advertising, and kybos (look it up). They are having speakers and programs. Do you know who will be speaking? Or who gets to decide who speaks? Or what their solutions are? I've heard that some of the people organizing these events may be affiliated with a particular GOP presidential hopeful. They're even looking for volunteers to walk thru the crowd with clipboards to get contact information. There's nothing wrong with people doing any of this - heck, I hope all of us are recruiting people into CFL at these events. Just be aware that the organizers - and a host of other organizations will be trying to build lists at these events.

People upset about government spending have been fooled over and over again. CFL folks won't be fooled - try to help others keep from being fooled again, too.

Go to your local Tea Party but do some homework on who is running the show. Be an ambassador for Campaign For Libety. Have fun and keep it peaceful.

This is why I am not going to any tea parties this year. Disingenuous fux. Ill keep on chugging like I was before.

THEY must come to US.

[RP4EVER]

And this is why Im hosting my one man tea party on my front yard...right across from the local community college

[tonesforjonesbones]

well i'm going and i might take my fife (piccolo) and play colonial songs...wish I could find a snare drummer. I am going to hand out C4L fliers and information. DO bring cameras, and especially video phones and video cameras so we can be alert and record dissenters if they try to start crap. I am also going to wear my big yellow Ron Paul t shirt....BE LOUD AND PROUD! tones

[speciallyblend]

well i'm going and i might take my fife (piccolo) and play colonial songs...wish I could find a snare drummer. I am going to hand out C4L fliers and information. DO bring cameras, and especially video phones and video cameras so we can be alert and record dissenters if they try to start crap. I am also going to wear my big yellow Ron Paul t shirt....BE LOUD AND PROUD! tones

yeah i am going to film the denver tea party. I am kinda of curious on what this tea party is going to look like in Colorado;)

[Dave]

I'm heading out the door to the tea party with 500 CFL brochures and 12 CFL signs. This will be fun!

I can't wait to hear all your reports from around America. Figure out who's the prime mover behind your local tea party and tailor your message to draw their crowd into our tent.

Have fun and stay safe!