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FreedomFighter8008
04-10-2009, 03:15 PM
Glenn Beck is talking about the American Progressive movement and it's ties to fascism today and he is spot on, IMO. If someone has a YouTube of this, please post it here.

Captain America
04-10-2009, 03:20 PM
He should talk about how his foreign policy beliefs are tied to fascism.

AuH20
04-10-2009, 03:20 PM
Yup. The conservative movement has done nothing but concede to the left over the last 90 years. Our most cherished political figure is an ex-democrat for Christ's sake. People need to open up a history book and realize how badly they've been hoodwinked. Its a republic not a democracy! :mad::D

I hope Glenn touches on the Judicial Reorganization Act of 1937 which started the ball rolling. Of course, the treacherous FDR waged war against the Supreme Court and proceeded to altered the function of the Constitution, forever changing the landscape of the United States. The seed was planted then.

Chieftain1776
04-10-2009, 04:52 PM
I'm sorry but I really wish one of the authors he had on conducted the panel. Beck almost never fails to make great arguments look kooky by his sheer personal nuttiness. Also he had on the "Thomas Paine" guy who put Pearl Harbor and 9/11 terrorist attacks in the same category as Obama's budget...that's not only ridiculous but just plain wrong.


I don't even care how it looks to our opponents at this point... he's just a nutcase. Of personal annoyance: every time he makes a point, or more accurately repeats a point from his reading, he has this annoying self-satisfied smirk that makes me want to punch him in the face.

Ron Paul was right...this guy is just a demagogue. I just found this almost (I think the Mormon point is unwarranted) perfect peg of Glenn Beck. http://www.redpills.org/?p=429

dannno
04-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Ron Paul was right...this guy is just a demagogue. I just found this almost (I think the Mormon point is unwarranted) perfect peg of Glenn Beck. http://www.redpills.org/?p=429

Wow! Great little blog, except for the Mormon part I definetely disagree with that little segment of the article..

Here's a good video on Mormonism and it's ties to liberty, its battles against tyranny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOonUiGOjs

Master
04-10-2009, 05:28 PM
He should talk about how his foreign policy beliefs are tied to fascism.

lol

Objectivist
04-10-2009, 05:31 PM
Glenn Beck is talking about the American Progressive movement and it's ties to fascism today and he is spot on, IMO. If someone has a YouTube of this, please post it here.

I guess he got my email.

talkingpointes
04-10-2009, 05:43 PM
Wow! Great little blog, except for the Mormon part I definetely disagree with that little segment of the article..

Here's a good video on Mormonism and it's ties to liberty, its battles against tyranny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOonUiGOjs

Mormonism and freedom? I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but this time...

Do you actually know any mormons? I do, more then a few actually. Phoenix has quite large mormon population, and freedom is for the most part something they do not espouse. Not to pigeonhole an entire religion, but to merely reflect using a generalized version of what I see in whole. To be fair two of my best friends are jack mormons. Jack mormons is what we (As in the locals) call people that have to fake being mormon so their families don't become mocked or embarrassed.

When you grow up in a mormon family it's a bit discriminatory because you have to go to temple, and you have to play the fantasy all out; unless you move out first or get ex-communicated. Their religion is something that is merely not dabbled with you are either in or out, which includes paying a tithing 10% percent of your yearly income. The tithing alone wreaks like an income tax, but that smell my friend is not freedom. The tithing pays for what they call "The worlds best welfare system". By worlds best they really mean we take care of our own but will also take care of others, so long as they are willing to hear or sales pitch.

Anyways that's just an instance. I accepted some "mormon welfare" and would of rather listened to time share salesmen. They're some good people but for the most part they want to legislate morality like the gay marriage ban, they tax their own like the federal government, and run a welfare operation. They sort of sound like neo-cons.!:rolleyes:

silverhawks
04-10-2009, 06:30 PM
In their own way, Quakers seem to be more tied to liberty than Mormons. I've yet to see Quakers aggressively recruiting.


The various branches have widely divergent beliefs and practices, but the central concept to most Friends is the "Inner Light" or "Light of Christ within". Accordingly, individual Quakers may develop individual religious beliefs arising from their personal conscience and revelation coming from "God within"; Quakers feel compelled to live by such individual religious beliefs and inner revelations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Society_of_Friends

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testimony_of_Equality

Catatonic
04-10-2009, 06:35 PM
Beck is a tool and I don't understand why anyone takes him seriously

Joe3113
04-10-2009, 07:23 PM
Beck is a tool and I don't understand why anyone takes him seriously

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6C6E6ayh4U :)

NMCB3
04-10-2009, 07:41 PM
Becks a false prophet.

tonesforjonesbones
04-10-2009, 07:46 PM
If Beck is a tool..lets use him..everyone needs a good tool. tones

pcosmar
04-10-2009, 07:55 PM
If Beck is a tool..lets use him..everyone needs a good tool. tones

Yes, But a screwdriver makes a poor chisel. And a wrench is a terrible hammer. ;)

nbruno322
04-10-2009, 07:58 PM
Here is the Youtube play list of the entire show, check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWWbpa8l6sY&feature=PlayList&p=41AFBAD4C4753AE2&index=0&playnext=1

AuH20
04-10-2009, 08:10 PM
Here is the Youtube play list of the entire show, check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWWbpa8l6sY&feature=PlayList&p=41AFBAD4C4753AE2&index=0&playnext=1

Thanks. I caught a part of it.

sevin
04-10-2009, 08:19 PM
Glenn Beck's job is to get republicans used to the idea that we are now a fascist country, and to keep them from defecting to the libertarian party.

And yes, in that regard, he is nailing it.

LATruth
04-10-2009, 08:21 PM
Well into the second video, and I think I just threw up in my mouth.

:mad:

AuH20
04-10-2009, 08:33 PM
Wow. An amazing segment for mainstream cable news. To even touch this historical propaganda is taboo. I'm glad Beck put this together for the uninformed.

tonesforjonesbones
04-10-2009, 09:03 PM
Glenn Beck said that the masses must be spoonfed..and he's right. That is what he's doing. I like the way he showed that it is democrats AND republicans for about 100 years...and it's still the same and possibly worse. I think he did a good job for "beginners" because that's what he's dealing with. tones

nate895
04-10-2009, 09:29 PM
First, the anti-Confederate comments, and the lack of bringing up Hamiltonianism made me a little angry. Second, Beck is getting on my nerves. He could have had Woods, DiLorenzo, or other libertarians on, but instead he chose three people I have never heard of, and one who is Coulter wannabe (the one who wrote Liberal Fascism). Beck is a good tool, however, for the liberty movement. As pcosmar said, a screwdriver is a poor chisel, what we need to do is push Beck out of the way and take what he has chiseled and make it better.

silverhawks
04-10-2009, 11:43 PM
Glenn Beck's job is to get republicans used to the idea that we are now a fascist country, and to keep them from defecting to the libertarian party.

And yes, in that regard, he is nailing it.

That's my perspective on it too; he's still pushing the neo-con mindset, which as mentioned earlier, is fascist in its ideals: favouring a strong nation and state above individual rights.

That said - there is WAY TOO MUCH GREAT INFO in this particular show.

Warrior_of_Freedom
04-11-2009, 04:10 AM
Glenn Beck is talking about the American Progressive movement and it's ties to fascism today and he is spot on, IMO. If someone has a YouTube of this, please post it here.

Fuck Glenn Beck.

sailor
04-11-2009, 04:28 AM
What he does is called a show. He is a showman. He is a performer.

A. Havnes
04-11-2009, 07:54 AM
What he does is called a show. He is a showman. He is a performer.

But the masses watch him, and when he does segments like these, they open their eyes a little more. We want these ideas to become mainstream!

Bossobass
04-11-2009, 07:57 AM
Fuck Glenn Beck.

^^THIS^^
...and the horse (TV) he rode in on.

Bosso

pcosmar
04-11-2009, 08:05 AM
Be aware.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Propaganda

Propaganda is a specific type of message presentation, aimed at serving an agenda. Even if the message conveys true information, it may be partisan and fail to paint a complete picture. The book Propaganda And Persuasion defines propaganda as "the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist."

Beck is there not to inform or to educate. He is there to inflame.
Don't be fooled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUx_ynBiFjs

FreedomFighter8008
04-11-2009, 09:12 AM
Glenn Beck said that the masses must be spoonfed..and he's right. That is what he's doing. I like the way he showed that it is democrats AND republicans for about 100 years...and it's still the same and possibly worse. I think he did a good job for "beginners" because that's what he's dealing with. tones

Exactly. The rest of you sound like progressives . . . :eek:

:D

FreedomFighter8008
04-11-2009, 09:14 AM
But the masses watch him, and when he does segments like these, they open their eyes a little more. We want these ideas to become mainstream!

Precisely.

LATruth
04-11-2009, 01:36 PM
But 'he'll come back a week later, cry and say he was wrong. And the sheeple will reverse their thinking and never believe it because the MAN WHO BROKE IT TO THEM NO LONGER THINKS IT TO BE TRUE so it must not be.

After all, he's ON TV!!!!

He's trash.

Imperial
04-11-2009, 01:40 PM
Yup. The conservative movement has done nothing but concede to the left over the last 90 years. Our most cherished political figure is an ex-democrat for Christ's sake. People need to open up a history book and realize how badly they've been hoodwinked. Its a republic not a democracy! :mad::D

I hope Glenn touches on the Judicial Reorganization Act of 1937 which started the ball rolling. Of course, the treacherous FDR waged war against the Supreme Court and proceeded to altered the function of the Constitution, forever changing the landscape of the United States. The seed was planted then.

Try going further back. To McKinley even. He was the first in the long line of failing presidents; he was a conservative in the reactionary sense who mostly listened to the people and big business led by Marc Hanna for answers. In the regard, the Depression of 1893 got the ball rolling, because it through William Jennings Bryan to the front to lead the Populist rebellion in the major parties.

LATruth
04-11-2009, 02:07 PM
Glenn Beck - Worst Person in the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW6BOmjCObk)

heavenlyboy34
04-11-2009, 02:35 PM
Glenn Beck - Worst Person in the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW6BOmjCObk)

Olberman is an establishment goon too. :p

LATruth
04-11-2009, 02:47 PM
Olberman is an establishment goon too. :p

agreed, but it was funny.

Conza88
04-13-2009, 02:27 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=177088

LATruth
04-13-2009, 03:03 AM
Yeah yeah you told us so... :D good call.

ronnieawesome
04-13-2009, 05:30 AM
I am a real Mormon not a jack Mormon. I don,t think you should post some thing
unless you know the fact about mormons. I will not get into it about REL. I frankly
don,t care what REL anyone is . Thats what America is all about. Its when some
people write about something they haven,t a clue about is what causes problems.
Just my 2 cents from a Mormon who served in the Marines and Navy for 12 years.
I am also the 5th geration who served in the ARM FORCES in my family.

AuH20
04-14-2009, 05:55 PM
This is more like it. Who else is not turned away by the idea of secession? Lets get down to brass tacks. Yea, the tea parties are nice symbolism for discontent but whats the endgame?

http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200904140032?f=cf_clips

dannno
04-14-2009, 06:01 PM
Mormonism and freedom? I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but this time...

Do you actually know any mormons? I do, more then a few actually. Phoenix has quite large mormon population, and freedom is for the most part something they do not espouse. Not to pigeonhole an entire religion, but to merely reflect using a generalized version of what I see in whole. To be fair two of my best friends are jack mormons. Jack mormons is what we (As in the locals) call people that have to fake being mormon so their families don't become mocked or embarrassed.


I am a jack mormon. Did you watch the video? It is filled with Mormon prophets saying great things about freedom, as well as awful things about the conspiracies that man will face in the final days, as we are facing..

It is an excellent video, worth posting over and over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOonUiGOjs




When you grow up in a mormon family it's a bit discriminatory because you have to go to temple, and you have to play the fantasy all out; unless you move out first or get ex-communicated. Their religion is something that is merely not dabbled with you are either in or out, which includes paying a tithing 10% percent of your yearly income. The tithing alone wreaks like an income tax, but that smell my friend is not freedom. The tithing pays for what they call "The worlds best welfare system". By worlds best they really mean we take care of our own but will also take care of others, so long as they are willing to hear or sales pitch.

Anyways that's just an instance. I accepted some "mormon welfare" and would of rather listened to time share salesmen. They're some good people but for the most part they want to legislate morality like the gay marriage ban, they tax their own like the federal government, and run a welfare operation. They sort of sound like neo-cons.!:rolleyes:

I agree that a lot of Mormons are brainwashed, but I know quite a few who support Ron Paul and the constitution.

I agree that some are confused on the marriage issue, but they feel as if they are fighting a battle to retain their religious freedom. When it comes down to it, most of them don't care if gay people have gay weddings, it is all about the state recognizing gay marriage and forcing their children to learn and accept it, and force institutions to abide by holding their ceremonies, etc. What they should be fighting for is the state to not recognize any form of marriage.

Don't Tread on Mike
04-14-2009, 08:27 PM
Fuck Glenn Beck.

Yea, screw the only guy in the media who is attempting to prove america is repeating the past and is straying from the constitution. I personally think he is just human (not a neo-con on fox news purposely trying to brainwash us). He is an american like all of us, just trying to understand and to help others understand that there is more to the government than what we typically hear. I would think Ron Paul supporters would embrace the fact that he is opening some eyes, sure he isn't Ron Paul and doesn't know anything about Ron Paul, but I didn't either. Sure he supported the bailouts at one point, but he doesn't now. Not everybody is born knowing right from wrong but somewhere down the road we will have to learn it, unfortunately some people like to learn from their mistakes. We may know what is right but is it to be only us that will know? No, But we can help others understand before they learn from from their mistake. I'm sure if Glen Beck were to learn and understand the true meaning of Ron Paul and his Campaign for Liberty he would be just as inspired as we are and come to realize that his "912 project" isn't the only website that promotes liberty.