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Reason
04-07-2009, 04:27 PM
Rep Michele Bachmann U.S. Starting "Youth Re-Education Camps"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97xk7tgaf8g

Original thread with fact check info
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=187138

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_congress_creating_a_mandatory_public_service.ht ml

I find it disturbing that there was going to be wording in the first draft to create a commission so this is clearly something to watch.

However we need to make sure we spread awareness without the fear tactics that sites like World Net Daily employ.

jrich4rpaul
04-07-2009, 08:24 PM
However we need to make sure we spread awareness without the fear tactics that sites like World Net Daily employ.

Don't you pay attention to politics? Fear is the only way to get the people to do exactly what you want.

Carole
04-07-2009, 08:51 PM
It will be incremental just like everything else "they" do.

It begins as a volunteer program with pay. Then the brainwashing. And eventually it will become a mandatory program, especially if not enough young people become involved with it.

I think (does anyone else know?) the original bill was to require service. Certainly anyone who accept student loans would have been required to serve. I cannot locate it so maybe not.

I can see the day when community service witll be tied to students' grades. No service, no pass maybe. INCREMENTALISM
They must have taken out that part.

MSNBC video with that creepy Erin woman spouting crap was disgusting. :mad:

Carole
04-07-2009, 08:56 PM
Here is one amendment.

House Vote #138 in 2009 [primary source]
Date: Mar 18, 2009 4:01PM
Result: Agreed to
Related Amendment: H.Amdt. 48: Amendment to create a National Service Reserve Corps and requires an annual service requirement of at least 10 hours and/or annual training. A member of the National Service Reserve Corps is one who has completed a term of national service, fulfilled training, and will respond to national... amending H.R. 1388: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act

Carole
04-07-2009, 09:32 PM
This bill is hundreds of pages long and LOADED with gobblegook. Looks like they are going to have lots of measurements of those involved. Guinea pigs.



Some more amendments:

(38) S.Amdt. 715 by Sen. Ensign [R-NV]

To clarify that nonprofit organizations assisted under the Nonprofit Capacity Building Program include certain crisis pregnancy centers, and organizations that serve battered women or victims of rape or incest.

Proposed: Mar 25, 2009. Rejected: Mar 25, 2009.
Mar 25, 2009. Motion to table amendment SA 715 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 56 - 41. Record Vote Number: 111. [View Details]

(2) H.Amdt. 39 by Rep. Pingree [D-ME]

Amendment to add to the list of approved Clean Energy Corps activities the development of clean energy programs designed to meet the needs of rural communities.
Proposed: Mar 18, 2009. Accepted: Mar 18, 2009.

Amendment numbered 2 printed in House Report 110-39 to add to the list of approved Clean Energy Corps activities the development of clean energy programs designed to meet the needs of rural communities.
Mar 18, 2009. On agreeing to the Pingree (ME) amendment (A002) Agreed to by recorded vote: 388 - 36 (Roll no. 133). [View Details]

8) H.Amdt. 45 by Rep. Markey [D-CO]

Amendment to increase the operational support given to organizations for full-time individuals enrolled in an approved national service position. The amendment proposes increasing the support from $600 to $800 and from $800 to $1000 if program supports at least 50 percent disadvantaged youth.
Proposed: Mar 18, 2009. Accepted: Mar 18, 2009.

Amendment numbered 8 printed in House Report 111-39 to increase the operational support given to organizations for full-time individuals enrolled in an approved national service position. The amendment proposes increasing the support from $600 to $800 and from $800 to $1000 if program supports at least 50 percent disadvantaged youth.
Mar 18, 2009. On agreeing to the Markey (CO) amendment (A008) Agreed to by recorded vote: 283 - 147 (Roll no. 137). [View Details]


(11) H.Amdt. 48 by Rep. Titus [D-NV]

Amendment to create a National Service Reserve Corps and requires an annual service requirement of at least 10 hours and/or annual training. A member of the National Service Reserve Corps is one who has completed a term of national service, fulfilled training, and will respond to national disasters and other emergencies. These individuals will be listed in a national database for the ease of immediate deployment in case of emergency.
Proposed: Mar 18, 2009. Accepted: Mar 18, 2009.

Amendment numbered 10 printed in House Report 111-39 to create a National Service Reserve Corps and requires an annual service requirement of at least 10 hours and/or annual training. A member of the National Service Reserve Corps is one who has completed a term of national service, fulfilled training, and will respond to national disasters and other emergencies. These individuals will be listed in a national database for the ease of immediate deployment in case of emergency.
Mar 18, 2009. On agreeing to the Titus amendment (A011) Agreed to by recorded vote: 339 - 93 (Roll no. 138). [View Details]

12) H.Amdt. 49 by Rep. Miller [D-CA]
The amendments prohibits organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.
Proposed: Mar 18, 2009. Accepted: Mar 18, 2009.
Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.
14) S.Amdt. 688 by Sen. Crapo [R-ID]
To increase the borrowing authority of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and for other purposes.
Proposed: Mar 24, 2009.

28) S.Amdt. 705 by Sen. Vitter [R-LA]
To prohibit ACORN, or organizations affiliated or co-located with ACORN, from receiving assistance under this Act.
Proposed: Mar 25, 2009. Rejected: Mar 26, 2009.
Mar 26, 2009. Motion to table amendment SA 705 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 53 - 43. Record Vote Number: 114. [View Details]