Why are all these threads being moved today?

[Zydeco]

Anyone explain? Has Roger L. Simon taken over the forum??

[Bradley in DC]

Moving them to their appropriate place:

Forum Guidelines
http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22

"Topics posted in the wrong sub-forum are subject to being moved or deleted. Please understand the sub-forum division before starting a new topic. Suggestions for new sub-forums are always welcome. Reason: Leads to most effective use of users resources."

News About The Official Campaign
Post information and news stories about the official campaign here.

Ron Paul Grassroots Central
Discuss, analyze, share, plan, collaborate and report on the latest happenings and other important topics affecting the grassroots side of the Ron Paul 2008 race.

General Politics & Other
Open to news stories, all political discussion and whatever suits you.

Issues for America
Ask questions and post about Dr. Paul's issue positions here. Limit one issue per thread.

Bad Media Reporting on Ron Paul
Cataloging and correcting misinformation, disinformation, ad hominem attacks and more.

[nullvalu]

Moderators will do as they will. Respect their Authoritaaaarhh!

[Bradley in DC]

Also, there are many instances of multiple threads on the same topic that I've merged, etc. Do we need seven independent threads of the USA Today article on Dr. Paul and civil rights? This would happen less if they were posted in the correct forum in the first place...

[richard1984]

like this thread (for example)--it doesn't belong under "Ron Paul Grassroots Central"

but I guess Bradley explained that

:D

[disinter]

Anyone explain? Has Roger L. Simon taken over the forum??

I don't know but it is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!

[JenHarris]

I'm not sure I like certain things being moved...


I do agree that we don't need 5 threads for everything that happens, but at the same time, I can say that I probably won't be seeing the posts under other tabs because I don't want to click on every single tab trying to find out if there is anything new and worthy of reading out there.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying, Sorry.

[ghemminger]

I'm not sure I like certain things being moved...
I tend to only read this section of the message board and I do like to see the donation thread that was going on here, thought it motivated people to give. Oh well.

I do agree that we don't need 5 threads for everything that happens, but at the same time, I can say that I probably won't be seeing the posts under other tabs because I don't want to click on every single tab trying to find out if there is anything new and worthy of reading out there.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying, Sorry.

If you don't like it there are many RP Forums and chat room spinging up - Try to hang in there. This Board goes in cycles of no moderartion to light-heavy moderation

[American]

Moderation is good, you can subscribe to threads when you post them if you want to keep track of them, go into you CP Panel there will be a link to them. Its at the bottom of the posts.

[Zydeco]

I vote against the moving of threads, I like how almost every new thread had coalesced into one category. Makes it much easier to browse.

Others?

[ghemminger]

Moderation is good, you can subscribe to threads when you post them if you want to keep track of them, go into you CP Panel there will be a link to them. Its at the bottom of the posts.

There should be some type of ongoing training or tutorial for new users - and we might actually have less moderation and less problems

[Bradley in DC]

I'm not sure I like certain things being moved...


I do agree that we don't need 5 threads for everything that happens, but at the same time, I can say that I probably won't be seeing the posts under other tabs because I don't want to click on every single tab trying to find out if there is anything new and worthy of reading out there.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying, Sorry.

Jen, you should try the "New Posts" feature at the top. I think you'll find it pretty useful.

[Bradley in DC]

I vote against the moving of threads, I like how almost every new thread had coalesced into one category. Makes it much easier to browse.

Others?

Again, try the "New Posts" feature at the top of the page. Much easier to browse new posts and threads.

[Bradley in DC]

There should be some type of ongoing training or tutorial for new users - and we might actually have less moderation and less problems

Excellent idea. This is sort of what Josh and Bryan were thinking when they added this "Forum Guidelines, Introductions & More" at the top of the forum. If people read the guidelines and followed them, there would be no moderation (except spam, porn, etc.). As you point out, the political season is heating up and we're going to be getting lots of new members, it's going to be more important.

[mkrfctr]

I, for one, very much appreciate a cleaning up / reorganizing of the board. I think there is enough activity here now that it matters that things aren't duplicated extensively and that they are in their proper areas. It ended up being that everything happened in this one subforum; topics went to page 3 in a matter of an hour, and thus no one would see a topic and would repost it without searching first just adding to the problem.

Thanks admins + mods for keeping it organized. If people aren't real aware right now, they'll catch on soon enough. Stay the courseTM

[Mordechai Vanunu]

Didn't we go through this not long ago? Some other mod went on a power trip and started moving threads when everyone was complaining. Hopefully this guy gets a hint before it gets out of hand.

If you're saying we should use the "New Posts" option, then what reason do you have to move the threads? If we use New Posts it doesn't matter where it is to begin with.

[Ron Paul Fan]

I am for cleaning up the board if it's fully enforced correctly. And by that I mean that not just some off topic threads are moved, but that all off topic threads are moved. The kid that got tasered at a John Kerry event thread. What does that have to do with the grassroots campaign? Nothing! This thread, what does it have to do with the grassroots campaign? Nothing! So either enforce it or don't enforce it. Either do it or don't do it! Anything less and you don't get the point across. So you'll still have people posting things in the wrong forum and that's criminal!

[mdh]

Didn't we just have this war a few weeks ago?

War's over, you can all go home.

[Bradley in DC]

The upshot of the discussion on moving threads was that the owners wanted heads to cool but that structural changes were needed (and had been in the works prior to that discussion). As Dr. Paul's popularity grows and the forum gets lots of new users, the utility was declining (again, how many duplicate threads do we need?).

A good discussion of Bryan and Josh's changes isn't a bad idea. There is no "main forum" but proper places for everything. Their style was to try to move in the right direction without causing too many problems. With that in mind, I've been aggressive merging duplicate posts/threads and more cautious moving established threads. Once people get accustomed to the new sub-fora and post appropriately--and learn to "subscribe" to interesting threads and use the "new posts" feature, the forum will be quite useful!

[speciallyblend]

KISS AND HUGS eitherway its a bitch to keep up with all the threads no matter the location,dam ron paul supporters stop typing,or ill tazer your asses.(sarcasm)
RON PAULING IT2008

[LibertyEagle]

1. What do you mean, "Subscribe" to an interesting thread?

2. I noticed the rating feature at the top of the Campaign forum. What is this about, is it available for association with a given thread, and if so, how does one do that?

[Bradley in DC]

1. What do you mean, "Subscribe" to an interesting thread?

Go to "tool threads" and click on "subscribe" in the drop down menu. You can follow threads of interest in your subscription under the "User CP" drop down menu.


2. I noticed the rating feature at the top of the Campaign forum. What is this about, is it available for association with a given thread, and if so, how does one do that?

If you want to "rate" your opinion on a thread, use the "Rating" feature. It's another good way of helping each other sort all of the information on the forum.

[mdh]

Rating = add purple dots.

[constituent]

bradley... is there a way to limit those who can start threads to those w/ say 250+, maybe even 500+ posts? i think that would cut down on the tension.

[Bradley in DC]

Didn't we go through this not long ago? Some other mod went on a power trip and started moving threads when everyone was complaining. Hopefully this guy gets a hint before it gets out of hand.

If you're saying we should use the "New Posts" option, then what reason do you have to move the threads? If we use New Posts it doesn't matter where it is to begin with.

Hi Modechai,

Different members use the forum differently. Those that are looking for posts on certain topics don't want to wade through extraneous threads from their interest. Others want a quick and dirty on new threads and posts. If everyone posted in the appropriate sub-forum and used the tools of the forum to find what they wanted, then everyone could be happy.

Josh and Bryan have spent some time and effort trying to accomodate different viewer approaches. Posting respectfully of others approaches and using the forum tools that suit your tastes offers the best of all worlds.

[mdh]

bradley... is there a way to limit those who can start threads to those w/ say 250+, maybe even 500+ posts? i think that would cut down on the tension.

Woah, I don't think that would be really good. Maybe down to like 10 or something just to kill all of the spam that happens in General Politics for paris hilton viruses and whatnot. ;)

[Bradley in DC]

bradley... is there a way to limit those who can start threads to those w/ say 250+, maybe even 500+ posts? i think that would cut down on the tension.

Constituent, that is a question way above my pay grade. On another note, I think a much more modest limitation would help us combat the porn and spam.

We're going to have to adjust to the fact that Dr. Paul isn't our little club's exclusive interest anymore and that there are just too many of us! Count me very happy to have that kind of a problem...

Seriously guys, I merged I don't know how many Value Voter results threads...

[Ron Paul Fan]

bradley... is there a way to limit those who can start threads to those w/ say 250+, maybe even 500+ posts? i think that would cut down on the tension.

No no no no no. Don't take away the starting thread option for them. This place would be a ghost town if you did because the people with a lesser amount of posts would either leave or spam the forum to get the required amount of posts which would open a brand new can of worms. A much smaller number would be better suited to help combat trolls though.

I don't like the easing into the new philosophy, but maybe it'll work. I just think it's better to either go with Rudy's Freedom is about Authority and move anything and everything that doesn't belong, or go with the libertarian philosophy of open borders and cut the number of forums down to 2- Ron Paul related and non Ron Paul related. This idea that we'll enforce the rules for some and not others I don't think is the best way to go about this. Declare war if you want to go to war, go fight it and win it or don't go to war at all!

[Bryan]

Woah, I don't think that would be really good. Maybe down to like 10 or something just to kill all of the spam that happens in General Politics for paris hilton viruses and whatnot. ;)
Yes, it's possible- what may be added however is to send all new members posts into a mod queue to prevent obvious trolls. Some new measure have already been added that are killing much of the spam bots. More coming...

[mdh]

Yes, it's possible- what may be added however is to send all new members posts into a mod queue to prevent obvious trolls. Some new measure have already been added that are killing much of the spam bots. More coming...

One thing I would mention is that CAPTCHA images aren't the great idea that some people think they are. I was a big fan - then I started working with Ron Paul Radio. One of the other guys helping run Ron Paul Radio is blind. For blind people, CAPTCHA images make subscribing to many sites impossible. :(

I no longer use them. Excluding a segment of the community just because they can't see seems somehow lame to me.

[Bradley in DC]

I don't like the easing into the new philosophy, but maybe it'll work. I just think it's better to either go with Rudy's Freedom is about Authority and move anything and everything that doesn't belong, or go with the libertarian philosophy of open borders and cut the number of forums down to 2- Ron Paul related and non Ron Paul related. This idea that we'll enforce the rules for some and not others I don't think is the best way to go about this. Declare war if you want to go to war, go fight it and win it or don't go to war at all!

Hi RPFan,

Yeah, you and I are of one mind on that, but again, a question above my pay grade. Foo, Cujo and I are lowly moderators.;) Josh and Bryan are the powers behind the throne. :eek:

[Bryan]

The forum guidelines and sub-forum structure are always open for review and comment. If there is some part of the guidelines that is not desirable please state the case and there can be a change. On this issue, we have three main discussion groups with different degrees of relation to Dr. Paul:

News About The Official Campaign - some people are most interested in the most important things that are happening with the campaign directly. This is the place to find this info.
Ron Paul Grassroots Central - this is the hub for all other talk and chat about Ron Paul. Anything Ron Paul will not be moved out unless it is a news story or an "Issue for America".
General Politics & Other - This is for the non Ron Paul related threads.

The moderators will do the best to follow the "rule of law" of the guidelines, which again, are subject to updates based on the community needs.
:)

[disinter]

If he/she/it doesn't stop moving every fucking thread around then I will be moving to the other forum. This is becoming counter-productive.

[Bradley in DC]

Stop posting duplicate threads--and in the wrong forum;)

[leipo]

If he/she/it doesn't stop moving every fucking thread around then I will be moving to the other forum. This is becoming counter-productive.

Bye!

[disinter]

I kinda like the free-market approach prior to the moderation. Let the people decide which threads to discuss...

[ghemminger]

I like the yanking approach - it's cool learning the rules of this forum backwards - and it can be really fun trying to find your post too....

[nullvalu]

Would you leave the threads alone? I can understand merging dup threads, but who are you to decide what holds relevance and what doesn't? Just please leave the threads alone.

[Bradley in DC]

I kinda like the free-market approach prior to the moderation. Let the people decide which threads to discuss...

Disinter, you repeatedly post new threads on established topics often linking to the same article. If you want to "discuss" join an existing conversation. Others here have opinions that matter not just yours.

Similarly, I'm merging countless Fed rate cut threads (none of which are "Ron Paul Grassroots" related).

[disinter]

Bradley, why haven't you censored (I mean moved) the John Kerry thread yet? What does it have to do with RP Grassroots?

[nullvalu]

Bradley, why haven't you censored (I mean moved) the John Kerry thread yet? What does it have to do with RP Grassroots?

I was wondering that as well.. As I said above.. Who are you, to decide what holds relevance to "RP Grassroots" and what doesn't? Please..

[ghemminger]

Disinter, you repeatedly post new threads on established topics often linking to the same article. If you want to "discuss" join an existing conversation. Others here have opinions that matter not just yours.

Similarly, I'm merging countless Fed rate cut threads (none of which are "Ron Paul Grassroots" related).

LOL - In other words - " Disinter please learn how to follow directions - We are tired of telling you and it is really starting to bother us! JUST stop it Disinter!:D

[Paulitician]

This forum has become absolute anarchy!

[Bradley in DC]

Bradley, why haven't you censored (I mean moved) the John Kerry thread yet? What does it have to do with RP Grassroots?

Disinter, scroll up.

http://ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=197744&postcount=20

[Chibioz]

all this moving is overdoing it. the important thing is getting good discussions going. most people only look in 1 spot for new posts, this is a neusance.

[disinter]

We are tired of telling you and it is really starting to bother us!

Really? When is the last time you told me, all mighty one?

[disinter]

all this moving is overdoing it. the important thing is getting good discussions going. most people only look in 1 spot for new posts, this is a neusince.

Agreed. Counter-productive to say the least.

[ghemminger]

Mighty One speaks: " Dear Dister - Don't you know that this is not your FORUM!!! Please read all the rules! And follow them correcctly - Please learn - we are trying to teach you how to properly use this forum - PLEASE try to COMPLY!

[Bradley in DC]

all this moving is overdoing it. the important thing is getting good discussions going. most people only look in 1 spot for new posts, this is a neusince.

The best way to find new posts is to use the "New Posts" function at the top of the forum. I think you'll find it very useful.;)

[disinter]

Disinter, scroll up.

http://ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=197744&postcount=20

Umm, yea, ok. Now, would you mind answering the question? Someone else asked the same thing as well, no answer.

What does the Kerry video thread have to do with Ron Paul Grassroots?

[disinter]

Mighty One speaks: " Dear Dister - Don't you know that this is not your FORUM!!! Please read all the rules! And follow them correcctly - Please learn - we are trying to teach you how to properly use this forum - PLEASE try to COMPLY!

Yes master. Whatever you say. Want a cookie?

You still didn't answer the question.

[Chibioz]

..because rules and regulation is what ron paul is all about. i don't think moving people's posts around helps. if it's in any way relevent to ron paul i don't see why it should be moved from grass roots discussion.

[Bradley in DC]

Umm, yea, ok. Now, would you mind answering the question? Someone else asked the same thing as well, no answer.

What does the Kerry video thread have to do with Ron Paul Grassroots?

Following Bryan's direction, I've not moved threads with hundreds of posts and thousands of views (which I explain above in the linked post).

[disinter]

Following Bryan's direction, I've not moved threads with hundreds of posts and thousands of views (which I explain above in the linked post).

Oh okay, so the non-relevant posts all of the sudden become relevant based on x number of posts and views. Hmm.

Where in your sacred "rules" does it say that?

[csen]

Please stop moving threads...I don't want to have to visit several forums to see all the activity.

[Bradley in DC]

Oh okay, so the non-relevant posts all of the sudden become relevant based on x number of posts and views. Hmm.

Where in your sacred "rules" does it say that?

Per Bryan's desire....

[mdh]

lol.
You guys are wasting so much f'ing time while the financial world tiptoes closer to the brink...

[akalucas]

Didn't we just have this war a few weeks ago?

War's over, you can all go home.


lol. talk about deja vu. last time this happened there was a big uproar and lead to Joshlowry posting this the next day:

"If any threads are going to be moved it will be Bryan or myself.

I don't like the disruption and things worked fine the way they were before.

I asked the new moderators to moderate with a light hand when they joined and something seems to have changed. I did not ask anyone to go ballistic on thread moving but that seems to be the quota for some unknown reason.

Please do not move any more threads. The disruption is not worth the organization at this time."

heres the thread http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=14035

[disinter]

Per Bryan's desire....

Ahh I see. So you quote the "law/rules" constantly as reasons for your actions. But when those rules are not convenient, it is "because we said so".

LOL. Un-flippin-believable.

[Bradley in DC]

lol. talk about deja vu. last time this happened there was a big uproar and lead to Joshlowry posting this the next day:

"If any threads are going to be moved it will be Bryan or myself.

I don't like the disruption and things worked fine the way they were before.

I asked the new moderators to moderate with a light hand when they joined and something seems to have changed. I did not ask anyone to go ballistic on thread moving but that seems to be the quota for some unknown reason.

Please do not move any more threads. The disruption is not worth the organization at this time."

heres the thread http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=14035

Yes, exactly, and was explained at the time was that Bryan and Josh were in the process of working out how to continue to make the forum work. They solicited views. The forum was updated. This is how it is now.

[ghemminger]

i THINK WE All AGREE that anyone complaining or arguing too much with the MODS needs to be BANNNED! Only when we start BANNING people are they going to listen to us. JUST LISTEN and stop arguing GEEZ!!!!

[Bradley in DC]

Please stop moving threads...I don't want to have to visit several forums to see all the activity.

Use the "New Posts" function at the top of the page to find the new activity. People posting that the Fed raised rates today (not Ron Paul Grassroots related) 18 million times in a new thread doesn't help much either.:)

[mdh]

Use the "New Posts" function at the top of the page to find the new activity. People posting that the Fed raised rates today (not Ron Paul Grassroots related) 18 million times in a new thread doesn't help much either.:)

In my defense, I checked for an existing thread in Ron Paul Grassroots before posting a new thread about it in Ron Paul Grassroots, since Ron Paul Grassroots is where 99% of the activity is and where the vast majority of attention here is paid. :p

[disinter]

Yes, start BANNING these unruly law-breakers! For the love of the flying spaghetti monster, Ron Paul stands for the RULE OF LAW. Ban them all! Amend the constitution!

Praise Jesus!

Bomb the terrorists!

[ItsTime]

can we please move this thread? ;)

[ghemminger]

can we please move this thread? ;)

LOL

[ghemminger]

In my defense, I checked for an existing thread in Ron Paul Grassroots before posting a new thread about it in Ron Paul Grassroots, since Ron Paul Grassroots is where 99% of the activity is and where the vast majority of attention here is paid. :p

MDH - PLease get into line - I really don' like you line of questioning recently! Plese get back into line and try to follow direction much more carefully!

[Bradley in DC]

I went leafleting door-to-door in my neighborhood today. Some of you should get out from in front of the computer and actually HELP Dr. Paul's movement.

[ghemminger]

I went leafleting door-to-door in my neighborhood today. Some of you should get out from in front of the computer and actually HELP Dr. Paul's movement.

YEah - Stop wasting TIME and GO DO SOMETHING Productive PLEASE!

[disinter]

I went leafleting door-to-door in my neighborhood today. Some of you should get out from in front of the computer and actually HELP Dr. Paul's movement.

I'm at work. Will do that stuff when I get home. In the mean time, be sure to find time to move all the threads around so no one can discuss anything. That is priority!!

[Revolution9]

I am fucking fed up of fighting about this and refuse to deal with havng to look around or press the new posts buttons when that is not what the fuck I want. You moderators and your ideas kill the board when you try to fix it.. there was dick on a stick wrong with it.

f I have to go through a bunch of BS and have arbitrary shifting of threads after w have ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS then I am outta here. The Board Nazis can have their fuciking board.

Randy

[ghemminger]

I am fucking fed up of fighting about this and refuse to deal with havng to look around or press the new posts buttons when that is not what the fuck I want. You moderators and your ideas kill the board when you try to fix it.. there was dick on a stick wrong with it.

f I have to go through a bunch of BS and have arbitrary shifting of threads after w have ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS then I am outta here. The Board Nazis can have their fuciking board.

Randy


***Special Report*** Moderators TELL there side

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

[mkrfctr]

There are "rules" created to allow order and follow logic. Logically there is enough traffic to justify sub-forums. Logically if a post is in the wrong location it would be moved to its proper location. Logically if there are duplicate threads on the same topic they would be merged. Logically if users posted their topics in the proper sub-forums they would not have their topics moved. Logically if users did not post duplicate topics they would not have their thread merged. Logically if moderators are consistent and logical about their actions eventually the users will understand to follow the rules.

Also, there exists a forum function to find new posts for those who do not wish to have to visit multiple sub-furms. There also exists a function to follow/subscribe to topics. There also exists a search function to attempt to find duplicate topics. And there exists names on the sub-forums, descriptions of the sub-forums, and topics on the subject of the sub-forums that allow users to understand where they should post their topics. And lastly provided the admins here are good, no rule is set in stone and all policies are subject to change to the betterment of the forum and its users (that seems to be the case).

In short, it is not rocket science, if you've ever used a popular forum before this is how it works, and there is a reason, and it is a good reason. Please do not deride the admins for making this change, or the moderators for enforcing it until the users catch on.

/you can deride them for allowing certain off topic threads to stay based on popularity
//but not this thread since while it does not relate to grass roots, it does directly relate to the posting of topics into this sub-forum and their subsequent removal to the proper sub-forum they should have been posted in originally

[Bradley in DC]

all this moving is overdoing it. the important thing is getting good discussions going. most people only look in 1 spot for new posts, this is a neusance.

Chibioz, with your intentions in mind, I've merged dozens of new threads on the same topic (Fed cute, Value Voters debate, etc.) that have engendered good conversations after I brought them together. The place to look for new posts is under "New Posts."

[jjschless]

Thank you for doing what your doing here Bradley and other Moderators. Seeing a dozen threads about the same article or news items hampers discussion by diluting the main forum. Consistent posts in Grassroots Central about nonsense or off topic discussions as serves to dilute the forum and further complicate finding the important threads.

What you are doing, in part, is focusing. By moving threads to the proper locations the focus of each forum is achieved and people can quickly find out the latest information and take action where needed.

Focus is a very good thing in this movement. It is too easy to become distracted and wander off on a digital tangent when the forum is a mess. Discussion on the important or time sensitive items is paramount and prudent moderation to achieve this goal is welcomed by sensible people.

Of course there are those who would argue simply to hear their own voice.

[Bryan]

Umm, yea, ok. Now, would you mind answering the question? Someone else asked the same thing as well, no answer.

What does the Kerry video thread have to do with Ron Paul Grassroots?
Several reasons- for one it is a prime example of what the Ron Paul Revolution is all about. Also, the student who was abused is a Ron Paul supporter (or so the reports say). It also did take off.


There are "rules" created to allow order and follow logic. Logically there is enough traffic to justify sub-forums. Logically if a post is in the wrong location it would be moved to its proper location. Logically if there are duplicate threads on the same topic they would be merged. Logically if users posted their topics in the proper sub-forums they would not have their topics moved. Logically if users did not post duplicate topics they would not have their thread merged. Logically if moderators are consistent and logical about their actions eventually the users will understand to follow the rules.

Also, there exists a forum function to find new posts for those who do not wish to have to visit multiple sub-furms. There also exists a function to follow/subscribe to topics. There also exists a search function to attempt to find duplicate topics. And there exists names on the sub-forums, descriptions of the sub-forums, and topics on the subject of the sub-forums that allow users to understand where they should post their topics. And lastly provided the admins here are good, no rule is set in stone and all policies are subject to change to the betterment of the forum and its users (that seems to be the case).

In short, it is not rocket science, if you've ever used a popular forum before this is how it works, and there is a reason, and it is a good reason. Please do not deride the admins for making this change, or the moderators for enforcing it until the users catch on.

/you can deride them for allowing certain off topic threads to stay based on popularity
//but not this thread since while it does not relate to grass roots, it does directly relate to the posting of topics into this sub-forum and their subsequent removal to the proper sub-forum they should have been posted in originally
Sounds logical to me. :) Thanks for the post, this nails it. Again, the guildelines and forum structure are always up for discussion.

[r3volution]

watch this before posting and there shouldn't be a problem ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9q2jNjOPdk

[Bradley in DC]

Thank you for doing what your doing here Bradley and other Moderators. Seeing a dozen threads about the same article or news items hampers discussion by diluting the main forum. Consistent posts in Grassroots Central about nonsense or off topic discussions as serves to dilute the forum and further complicate finding the important threads.

What you are doing, in part, is focusing. By moving threads to the proper locations the focus of each forum is achieved and people can quickly find out the latest information and take action where needed.

Focus is a very good thing in this movement. It is too easy to become distracted and wander off on a digital tangent when the forum is a mess. Discussion on the important or time sensitive items is paramount and prudent moderation to achieve this goal is welcomed by sensible people.

Of course there are those who would argue simply to hear their own voice.

You're welcome. To you and the others afraid to post it publicly.

[disinter]

Well thank god they moved this post! The John Kerry thread is MUCH more relevant to Ron Paul grassroots!

Whew!

[Spirit of '76]

...

[remaxjon]

Thank you mods for cleaning the forum up. I don't mind seeing a bunch of stuff posted over and over again or stuff in the wrong forum and I actually like things the way they are. I guess its whats you get used to but I think its important for the many new visitors this site gets everyday to be able to find out info on the good doctor. Everyone who is bitching should ask what the purpose of this forum is. IMO its not so all of us that have been here for several months can BS about the campaign or fight over stupid things in Hot Topics its to help get the info out about the good doctor and get him votes.

[Thunderbolt]

It is clear that the mods have forgotten the purpose of this board: to get Ron Paul elected.

To that end what you are doing is not helping. It is dispersing information and people are not learning as much as they used to.

You seem to have gotten these swelled heads that this forum is all about you and your little forum. Well, it's not. Were it not for Ron Paul no one would be here.

Hurting Ron Paul in an effort to help your little organizational issues is insane, arrogant and stupid. You lost people last time and you will lose people again this time.

Why do we have to go through this all the time?

[Bryan]

It is clear that the mods have forgotten the purpose of this board: to get Ron Paul elected.

To that end what you are doing is not helping. It is dispersing information and people are not learning as much as they used to.

You seem to have gotten these swelled heads that this forum is all about you and your little forum. Well, it's not. Were it not for Ron Paul no one would be here.

Hurting Ron Paul in an effort to help your little organizational issues is insane, arrogant and stupid. You lost people last time and you will lose people again this time.

Why do we have to go through this all the time?

It's well understood this is not about us mods. We (the mods) are not the campaign. This forum can help however and I see it as our goal to be a facilitator of what the user community wants which is established in the forum guidelines and sub-forum structure. We should make sure these two elements best reflect what is most useful and help assure things run as best as possible. That's all that is being done here, nothing more.