The SPLC is at it again (tied to Pittsburgh shootings)

[AuH20]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09095/960750-53.stm


"For some time now there has been a pretty good connection between being sucked into this conspiracy world and propagating violence," said Heidi Beirich, director of research at the Southern Poverty Law Center and an expert on political extremists. She called Mr. Poplawski's act, "a classic example of what happens when you start buying all this conspiracy stuff."


:confused::confused::confused:

[tonesforjonesbones]

oh well...it happens so often doesn't it? tones <eyeroll>

[silverhawks]

So of course now, when you turn around to family and friends saying that the New World Order is real, you're obviously one of those dangerous, borderline psychotic "conspiracy theorists"...even though its on the front page of Yahoo or in Time Magazine.
How long til they have families handing their sons and daughters over to the authorities for re-education "for their own good"?

Sometimes I think that this civilisation deserves everything it gets. This is one of those times if people actually fall for this.

[Brian4Liberty]

Yada, yada, yada. Once again, members of the media using a tragedy to push their personal agendas.

So if someone who was "concerned" about speed limits killed a bunch of people by running them over with a car, would that mean that cars caused violence? The kid was crazed. Pure and simple. He could have been into Barbie dolls. Would that have caused his insanity?

The author implies that believing in Freedom cause this guy to lose his mind. So what should we believe in to be ok in the author's mind? Compassionate fascism? Global communism?

[AuH20]

So of course now, when you turn around to family and friends saying that the New World Order is real, you're obviously one of those dangerous, borderline psychotic "conspiracy theorists"...even though its on the front page of Yahoo or in Time Magazine.
How long til they have families handing their sons and daughters over to the authorities for re-education "for their own good"?

Sometimes I think that this civilisation deserves everything it gets. This is one of those times if people actually fall for this.

It feels like the walls are closing in on us. The frequency of these odd shootings and the media hostility exhibited towards Beck (he could be authentic or it could be staged - Operation Mockingbird?) does not offer me much hope for the future.

[AuH20]

Yada, yada, yada. Once again, members of the media using a tragedy to push their personal agendas.

So if someone who was "concerned" about speed limits killed a bunch of people by running them over with a car, would that mean that cars caused violence? The kid was crazed. Pure and simple. He could have been into Barbie dolls. Would that have caused his insanity?

The author implies that believing in Freedom cause this guy to lose his mind. So what should we believe in to be ok in the author's mind? Compassionate fascism? Global communism?

The entire mishandling of this story reeks of psych-ops.

[silverhawks]

It gets better.

Richard Andrew Poplawski Believed Glenn Beck and Wayne LaPierre (http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/05/richard-andrew-poplawski-believed-glenn-beck-and-wayne-lapierre/)

The NRA is also to blame!

Got to love the comments...




Why don’t we call Poplawski and Wong and all those other killers terrorists? This would be the headline:

NRA Arms More Terrorists, More Americans Die Meaninglessly


Or


Referring to all the right-wing militias in the U.S. as “sleeper cells” would be fairly apt.

Or




Sometime in Obama’s second term. That is if we get a second Obama term.

I don’t see widescale disarming of US citizens starting. period. people that own guns are going to be keeping them and to some extent trading them.

Some restriction on gun trading may happen in Obama’s second term. Individual states may change their laws as well. I’d think the tragedy in Binghampton might lead to some policy discussion on how to identify a licensed gun owner prior to their “going postal” and get help for them in order to prevent the tragedy. There are a lot of civil liberties issues in this though, and I’d lean towards privacy protections.

Give us Minority Report for real! PLEASE!

And this one...going to point out the GLARING problem with this one.


Clearly he didn’t really know what the Second Amendment said either…that stuff about being a part of the “organized militia” must have gone right through the nether zone between his ears. How can one have an “organized militia” if the militia is disobedient (like throwing stuff) to their officers, are mentally ill or are known to have uncontrolled agressive impulses, have criminal records, refuse to register, use weapons in unauthorized manners, etc. Furthermore…how can the government rely on a militia if the individuals have themselves expressed that they want to take down the Government, would participate in insurrections, and lend assistance to rebellions?

[See also US Constitution Article II Part 3 “Powers of Congress” on the role of militias to “suppress insurrections”; and the 14th Amendment Article 2, 3 and 4]

That's even more ironic because this person is quoting the Constitution. Do they even know what the Constitution is? How can the government rely on the militia's protection?!

And this one:


In this case there should have been notice that guns were in the Household. Yeah, I know the NRA would hate registration…but the whole point of an organized militia is that it is NOT INSURRECTIONARY…it is there to suppress insurrections and prevent invasion. The NRA logic on this is that registration and licensing would prevent people FROM fighting the government. But that is clearly not what the role of the militia was to be in the Constitution.

[AuH20]

It gets better.

Richard Andrew Poplawski Believed Glenn Beck and Wayne LaPierre (http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/05/richard-andrew-poplawski-believed-glenn-beck-and-wayne-lapierre/)

The NRA is also to blame!

Rules for Radicals! Saul Alinsky would be proud!

[AuH20]

The Vietnamese shooter now tied to the death threats directed at the president?:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/05/new-york-massace-gun-loner-wanted-to-kill-obama-115875-21254583/


The gunman who slaughtered 13 people at a US immigration centre was an angry loner who talked about assassinating the US president.

Former workmates said Jiverly Voong, 42, was obsessed with guns and grew to hate Americans who mocked his poor English as he struggled to find work.

Donald Ackley, who worked with the gunman at the Shop Vac Assembly plant from where he had recently been sacked, said: "He made some offthought the-wall comments like he wanted to kill the president.