The Powers that Be Just Don't Understand

[nayjevin]

Blowback.

The more our government oppresses us, the more pissed off we become. The more power 'they' attempt to grab, the closer we come to revolution.

Is it really that hard to see that 'bombing our holy lands' results in anger?

They don't think we're smart enough. They don't think we're organized enough. They don't think we have the means, or the technology.

But we'll win - in peace - at their own game.

DO IT

4 years FTW

[Working Poor]

stop buying their goods plain and simple then they will see the power of the people.

[Truth Warrior]

Ordo ab chao, in action. TPTB have done their homework very well and over a very long time. The "chao" AND the "ordo" are both engineered and manufactured. They are not idiots. They understand EXACTLY what they are doing. And it just still continues to work like a charm.

Problem --> Reaction --> Solution. ( lather, rinse, repeat )

[nayjevin]

Ordo ab chao, in action. TPTB have done their homework very well and over a very long time. The "chao" AND the "ordo" are both engineered and manufactured. They are not idiots. They understand EXACTLY what they are doing. And it just still continues to work like a charm.

Problem --> Reaction --> Solution. ( lather, rinse, repeat )

I assume you mean that powers would control the chaos in order to create the resulting brand of rebuilding desired?

[Truth Warrior]

I assume you mean that powers would control the chaos in order to create the resulting brand of rebuilding desired?

Incorrect assumption.

For AN example:


Problem? Reaction. Solution.

Beginning on about Sept. 12, 2001, it was becoming obvious to independent thinkers that the official story about 9/11 (19 Arab hijackers linked to al Quaeda) was not consistent with the evidence. Within weeks the evidence indicated prior knowledge; three years later, the evidence indicates official complicity.

The Hegelian Dialectic (thesis—antithesis—synthesis [or problem—reaction—solution]) has been used by governments for eons to create and direct mass mindedness.

Those who understand dialectic principles believe that 9/11 was the problem, fear of another attack was the reaction and a dramatic restriction of civil liberties was the solution.

Those who have dedicated some independent thought to 9/11 cannot deny that there is not one shred of evidence supporting the official story. One may even argue that the official explanation of 9/11 is the worst coverup in history.

What if the 9/11 coverup was the problem? What if the reaction was intended to be global outrage and the solution a demand that those responsible be indicted, tried, convicted and the U.S. be taken apart to pave the way for a New World Order?

The scenario deserves some contemplation. However, we should not shy away from the truth even if the intended outcome is global government. Our job is to seek the truth and stand in faith and principle. The outcome of our actions, so long as they are noble, are not in our power to determine. One thing is for certain: We always get what we deserve.

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20041017.htm (http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20041017.htm)

[smithtg]

stop buying their goods plain and simple then they will see the power of the people.

the MSM was whining last night how people are "buckling down" and not spending so much on all the shit they dont need anyway. "Like OMG, I am having to budget money for the movies" or god forbid "I can not go out to eat 5 times a week" and afford it?

I have a good paying job and once I get enough saved and can arrange a situation to "cut the strings" of all the government BS, I will. Some will say on here "what are you waiting for" and that I am not sure, but the picture and plan are quickly forming for me

I paid my taxes last night and still can not believe how much I pay for all this BS. lets just say when quicken plots 'expenses' for me "TAXES" are the largest piece of the pie graph

[nayjevin]

TruthWarrior:

Is it fair to summarize this way:

The cover-up was expected to surface, thereby angering the world.
That anger would predictably be directed blindly at the whole U.S. country, instead of the individuals involved.
Support to dismantle the foundation of the United States to avoid similar in the future increases, the solution being one world government?

?

[Working Poor]

the solution is to stop buying into the whole god dammed thing. You can believe tptb totally understand this and do everything to make the people believe they are right.

[Original_Intent]

Incorrect assumption.

For AN example:


Problem? Reaction. Solution.

Beginning on about Sept. 12, 2001, it was becoming obvious to independent thinkers that the official story about 9/11 (19 Arab hijackers linked to al Quaeda) was not consistent with the evidence. Within weeks the evidence indicated prior knowledge; three years later, the evidence indicates official complicity.

The Hegelian Dialectic (thesis—antithesis—synthesis [or problem—reaction—solution]) has been used by governments for eons to create and direct mass mindedness.

Those who understand dialectic principles believe that 9/11 was the problem, fear of another attack was the reaction and a dramatic restriction of civil liberties was the solution.

Those who have dedicated some independent thought to 9/11 cannot deny that there is not one shred of evidence supporting the official story. One may even argue that the official explanation of 9/11 is the worst coverup in history.

What if the 9/11 coverup was the problem? What if the reaction was intended to be global outrage and the solution a demand that those responsible be indicted, tried, convicted and the U.S. be taken apart to pave the way for a New World Order?

The scenario deserves some contemplation. However, we should not shy away from the truth even if the intended outcome is global government. Our job is to seek the truth and stand in faith and principle. The outcome of our actions, so long as they are noble, are not in our power to determine. One thing is for certain: We always get what we deserve.

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20041017.htm (http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20041017.htm)

Or what if the desired reaction were for people to understand Hegelian dialectic so that they were too petrified by fear that they were playing into TPTB's hands to act? ;)

[Truth Warrior]

Or what if the desired reaction were for people to understand Hegelian dialectic so that they were too petrified by fear that they were playing into TPTB's hands to act? ;) Still just really don't get that whole hypothetical boycott thing, do ya? :rolleyes:

The bases are covered.

[Working Poor]

tptb are banking on the collective fears

[Truth Warrior]

tptb are banking on the collective fears They do that BECAUSE it works. ;)

[acptulsa]

If they don't get it, then why have they still got it?

They know. They just care about what they care about. And, conversely, they don't care about what they don't care about. Like you.

The liberals are getting testy. The conservatives are pissed already. The only question is, can we fan these flames even after tptb say, 'ok, enough gains for now, time to back off before they come and shoot our greedy asses'?

And they will. And their timing will be good. We will have a tough time selling our 'damn it, you know they'll do it again, why make your children endure that?' when the pacifier is back in the collective mouth. Will they reach the tipping point this time? Will they, in their arrogance, resturcture things in a completely unsustainable way this time? Will we be able to make people see that lack of sustainability is inevitable?

If they have made a mistake, it was not squashing the 'net already. If they have a weakness, it's the same weakness the elite have had for millenia--their forces are composed mostly of not brilliant people, but spoiled brats. They can always afford people smart enough to do a passable job applying lipstick to the pig, of course, but the decorated pig still doesn't reach that truth detector deep inside of people. Sound principles do.

We're trying to turn a snowball into an avalanche. It has happened before--and remember, there was no internet in France two hundred years ago on Bastille Day. We can win. We must try.

[Truth Warrior]

"Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

[zach]

Only when we realize that there are more of us than them, then fear will eventually dissolve.
But them, with their armies, their politicians, their newscasters, their election machines..

It's normal to feel small when lost in the illusion of grand curtains.

[coyote_sprit]

Only when we realize that there are more of us than them, then fear will eventually dissolve.
But them, with their armies, their politicians, their newscasters, their election machines..

It's normal to feel small when lost in the illusion of grand curtains.

There are more strains of Ebola then there are of us though.

[Truth Warrior]

Only when we realize that there are more of us than them, then fear will eventually dissolve.
But them, with their armies, their politicians, their newscasters, their election machines..

It's normal to feel small when lost in the illusion of grand curtains.

That explains the drive to gloabal regionalization ( EU, NAU, SAU, etc. ), fewer entities to control. Now add in a planned 90+% human population "reduction" agenda, and control becomes much simpler.



http://www.ponerology.com/ (http://www.ponerology.com/)

[Working Poor]

If you ate nutritious foods Ebola would not be a problem. Harmful bacteria cannot live in a healthy body. tptb understand this too. That's why all the advertisement for quick easy convenient microwave and artificial flavors, sugars, and fake sugars, to hypnotize you and your family into being unhealthy by not getting the nutrition you need to remain brave and independent and to keep you dependent on tptb.

[moostraks]

Blowback.

The more our government oppresses us, the more pissed off we become. The more power 'they' attempt to grab, the closer we come to revolution.

Is it really that hard to see that 'bombing our holy lands' results in anger?

They don't think we're smart enough. They don't think we're organized enough. They don't think we have the means, or the technology.

But we'll win - in peace - at their own game.

DO IT

4 years FTW

FTW?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=186039&

We attempted to beat them at their own game through delegates and were shut out.:( New thoughts for this theory??? I am completely disillusioned on the FTW plan!!!

[zach]

That explains the drive to gloabal regionalization ( EU, NAU, SAU, etc. ), fewer entities to control. Now add in a planned 90+% human population "reduction" agenda, and control becomes much simpler.



http://www.ponerology.com/ (http://www.ponerology.com/)


Yes, the only problem is that they have means to kill in so many subtle ways.

That's something we don't have. :(

[Truth Warrior]

If you ate nutritious foods Ebola would not be a problem. Harmful bacteria cannot live in a healthy body Engineered PANDEMICS don't give a hoot about diets.

[sevin]

Blowback.

The more our government oppresses us, the more pissed off we become. The more power 'they' attempt to grab, the closer we come to revolution.



That's why they've been doing it so gradually.
http://www.justiceplus.org/You-are-a-frog-in-hot-water_files/froggy.gif

[nayjevin]

FTW?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=186039&

We attempted to beat them at their own game through delegates and were shut out.:( New thoughts for this theory??? I am completely disillusioned on the FTW plan!!!

jeez

just trying to get pumped toward winning the next election.

we can bring liberty to the world can't we? :confused:

edit: hell ya we can! :)

[acptulsa]

We attempted to beat them at their own game through delegates and were shut out.:( New thoughts for this theory??? I am completely disillusioned on the FTW plan!!!

That was last time. There are billions of variables, and we're working on changing many of them right now. It is simply not true to say that 2010 and 2012 will be the same as 2008.

The only thing we have to worry about is, they're working on changing variables too. We have principle on our side, and we have a real desire to serve all the people, not just ourselves. They have the megaphones, and if they succeed in dicking around with the 'net they'll have all the megaphones. We have brains. They have brains. Our best bet is to be sure not to underestimate them, and hope they underestimate us. But since we must work completely in the open for so many reasons, we cannot count on that.

Why not a between-elections campaign? I have old WWII propaganda on tape at home. A fair amount of it is stuff that was taken as gospel at the time, but is being refuted today (or they're trying to refute it, anyway). There is stuff--like Thought Police--they accused Imperial Japan of which they are now up to. Can we do a campaign of bringing that stuff back to light? Can we use FDR's propaganda against BHO?

[fedup100]

TW, can't read your new tinie print.:D

[Truth Warrior]

TW, can't read your new tinie print.:D

Sorry!:D

[Truth Warrior]

Yes, the only problem is that they have means to kill in so many subtle ways.

That's something we don't have. :( Yep, and where did they get that? :rolleyes:

[zach]

Yep, and where did they get that? :rolleyes:

Alien technology. :D

[Roxi]

...

[Truth Warrior]

Alien technology. :D Tax dollars. Kiss a voter near you. :p

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Blowback.

The more our government oppresses us, the more pissed off we become. The more power 'they' attempt to grab, the closer we come to revolution.

Is it really that hard to see that 'bombing our holy lands' results in anger?

They don't think we're smart enough. They don't think we're organized enough. They don't think we have the means, or the technology.

But we'll win - in peace - at their own game.

DO IT

4 years FTW

The greatest power we have inherited from our Founding-Fathers is limited in scope to divorcing a tyrant if necessary so that we can replace him by marrying a more perfect king. Those who claim we can have greater powers are selling us an empty box. Along the same line of thinking, our Bill of Rights shouldn't expand on our simple power but should insure it.
We don't desire to rule, afterall, but desire an authority to serve us as a necessary evil so that we can be freed up to be content.