Something of interest

[ukipwebmaster]

Hi all.
Just popped in from the U.K.
You've all probably heard and seen the Daniel Hannan video recently.
What you may not know is before Dan spoke our own version of Ron Paul gave a speech which was every bit as good.
His name is Nigel Farage and you can watch the video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwQEEAZhWM

If you like this please help us in the U.K. and embed into your blogs and email to your friends. We are having a very important election in June so this would help us tremendously.

If you want to know more I highly recommend this recent speech at a town hall meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMMxomYvMoA

And last but not least this is Nigel giving Tony Blair a dressing down a few years back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grLmZGlzBW8

It's late in the U.K. now so I'll pop back another time to see what you all think.

Cheers!

[ronpaulhawaii]

“even in these educationally devalued times” - lol

done, thanks for stopping by

[sluggo]

Cool video.

How does UKIP get treated by the UK press?

[ukipwebmaster]

We've had the same treatment that Ron Paul had initially but it's now improving and people are listening to what we have to say.
Our agenda is very similar in that we believe in small government with a light touch.

[ClayTrainor]

We've had the same treatment that Ron Paul had initially but it's now improving and people are listening to what we have to say.


The truth seems to make it's way to the surface eventually ;)

I've been following Nigel's youtube content for about a week now, and really like what he has to say. Welcome to the forums, i'm sure most of us here will do whatever we can to help you guys promote your message :cool:

[nayjevin]

Liberty is brewing!

[hugolp]

What you may not know is before Dan spoke our own version of Ron Paul gave a speech which was every bit as good.
His name is Nigel Farage and you can watch the video here:

Hi

Another european here. I have been following Nigel Farage for some time now, and while I like his position regarding the EU, he is not at all like Ron Paul in his economical positions. I have watched him asking for devaluation of the currency serveral times. That is completely oposed to austrian economics, the one Ron Paul follows. Has Nigel Farage changed his economical views? If he has not, it would be great if you could tell him that there is in Europe a movement for sound money and small goverment, and he should look into it and maybe change his economic views. Its never too late.

Anyway, besides his economic views, he does a good job in the europarlament, and is a few of the sane voices that oposes the beast that is being created in Europe.

[Joe3113]

We've had the same treatment that Ron Paul had initially but it's now improving and people are listening to what we have to say.
Our agenda is very similar in that we believe in small government with a light touch.

We are working on a way for us to co-operate internationally.

We are just working on drafts of principles etc http://libertyuniversal.org

I myself am Australian.

Obviously opposing the socialist-fest known as the Lisbon Treaty will be a major component. Hopefully we can get libertarians to act globally to oppose this thing.

[Joe3113]

Hi

Another european here. I have been following Nigel Farage for some time now, and while I like his position regarding the EU, he is not at all like Ron Paul in his economical positions. I have watched him asking for devaluation of the currency serveral times. That is completely oposed to austrian economics, the one Ron Paul follows. Has Nigel Farage changed his economical views? If he has not, it would be great if you could tell him that there is in Europe a movement for sound money and small goverment, and he should look into it and maybe change his economic views. Its never too late.

Anyway, besides his economic views, he does a good job in the europarlament, and is a few of the sane voices that oposes the beast that is being created in Europe.

I also made this observation and I got into contact with a guy who knows Nigel who gave him Tom Woods book Meltdown. So hopefully when he reads it he will change his monetarist position and switch to the Austrian school.

I don't think he's an adamant monetarist, I just think he doesn't know about the Austrian school.


Nigel is a great orator for small government (and it's great he and UKIP were against the Iraq War) and having him in the Austrian School would be a MAJOR ASSET. So hopefully he can change his position.

Daniel Hannan is already giving the Austrian analysis of the crisis, that is, that government CAUSED the crisis via central banking practices.

[ukipwebmaster]

Hi

Another european here. I have been following Nigel Farage for some time now, and while I like his position regarding the EU, he is not at all like Ron Paul in his economical positions. I have watched him asking for devaluation of the currency serveral times. That is completely oposed to austrian economics, the one Ron Paul follows. Has Nigel Farage changed his economical views? If he has not, it would be great if you could tell him that there is in Europe a movement for sound money and small goverment, and he should look into it and maybe change his economic views. Its never too late.

Anyway, besides his economic views, he does a good job in the europarlament, and is a few of the sane voices that oposes the beast that is being created in Europe.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. We are completely for sound money.
Nigel may have said because we are not part of the Euro our currency can float to it's real value against a basket of currencies unlike countries tied to the Eurozone.
This means it may be 'devalued' and whilst we don't wish this, it's necessary if the Politicians artificially created a bubble where the currency was overvalued in the first place.
In an ideal world we should think about a new Gold Standard so that in future the Politicians can't play fast and loose with our money.

[Joe3113]

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. We are completely for sound money.
Nigel may have said because we are not part of the Euro our currency can float to it's real value against a basket of currencies unlike countries tied to the Eurozone.
This means it may be 'devalued' and whilst we don't wish this, it's necessary if the Politicians artificially created a bubble where the currency was overvalued in the first place.
In an ideal world we should think about a new Gold Standard so that in future the Politicians can't play fast and loose with our money.

Nigel is awesome, but tell him he needs to read the copy of Tom Woods' "Meltdown" that was given to him by one of his staffers who is a Ron Paul fan.

Hopefully he has already started reading it.

We need this guy in the Austrian School badly.

Also, you should read the same book. Devaluing the currency was the problem in the first place. If you keep doing it you force interest rates lower and the malinvestment continues. We need the bubble to burst so that resources can be allocated in a way the market desires, rather than creating an artificial bubble.

Devaluing the currency effectively means PRINTING MONEY, LENDING IT TO BANKS AND FORCING DOWN INTEREST RATES. Artificially low interest rates give the market the wrong signals and a bubble is created.

If you keep giving the monetarist analysis you are a lamb to the slaughter.

Tom Woods is better than me in explaining all this so don't panic :)

[ukipwebmaster]

We are working on a way for us to co-operate internationally.

We are just working on drafts of principles etc http://libertyuniversal.org

I myself am Australian.

Obviously opposing the socialist-fest known as the Lisbon Treaty will be a major component. Hopefully we can get libertarians to act globally to oppose this thing.

It does need international co-operation to fight this.

[ukipwebmaster]

Does anyone know what happened to the other Ron Paul forum?
It keeps redirecting to shoutbox for some reason.

[Joe3113]

Does anyone know what happened to the other Ron Paul forum?
It keeps redirecting to shoutbox for some reason.

Not sure.

Your main two sites are Daily Paul and this forum. The other forum sorta acts as a redundancy in case the feds shut this one down :D


I'm working behind the scenes here, on a professional, initial internet presence for global liberty co-operation between organisations and individuals who are currently nationally based (i.e. CFL, UKIP etc) in US, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada etc.

Some projects we could co-operate on:

- Opposition to G20 World Governance Agenda
- Opposition to Lisbon Treaty (and EU in general)
- Opposition to North American Union
- Opposition to Asian Union (They want to stick us Aussies and the NZers with tyrants in SE Asia)
- Perhaps co-operating on common domestic issues

and more.

[ukipwebmaster]

Sounds interesting.
Keep us informed and I'll let the powers that be know.