Debate closing...

[constituent]

sorry. someone had to say it.

[Bryan]

Locked other thread... may help on the crashes...

[JosephTheLibertarian]

any repeats?

[constituent]

bump.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Ron Paul came through. My heart is bursting with pride at his closing statement.

[BuddyRey]

Lol!

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Alan Keyes can only WISH he had the charisma of Ron Paul.

[OptionsTrader]

He did great, using his 4 minutes that he was able to use with 2 minutes conservatively saved.

Jees, Keyes really annoys me.

And Hunter spews more islamic jihad BS.

Could have sworn I heard Hunter say,
"I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in their Blackhawk helicopters. The infidels fired at the oil fields and they lit up like the eyes of Allah. Burning oil rained down from the sky and cooked everything it touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my goats were consumed by the fiery black liquid death. In the midst of the chaos, I could swear that I heard my goats screaming for help. As quickly as they had come, the infidels were gone. It was on that day I put a jihad on them. And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too. "

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/team_america/01.jpg

[Trassin]

I thought they said there was a post debate straw poll by the people at it. Anyone know where to find the resulst? Or are they just not up yet?

[Phenom24]

Someone please upload to Stage6 - then we can all download it and watch it...

(hope it was better than the Fox ones..)

Thanks!

Glenn

[chiefsmurph]

I don't understand how they expect the average voter to sit through 3 hours of that.

[literatim]

I don't understand how they expect the average voter to sit through 3 hours of that.

The average voter won't. It is targeted at the evangelical.

[OptionsTrader]

I thought they said there was a post debate straw poll by the people at it. Anyone know where to find the resulst? Or are they just not up yet?

They claimed that the results would be posted to
http://www.valuesvoters.com/

But, all I see is a very poorly designed static webpage.

[wgadget]

now

[V-rod]

still better than the Fox ABC and CNN debate format

[angelatc]

They claimed that the results would be posted to
http://www.valuesvoters.com/

But, all I see is a very poorly designed static webpage.

The url should be www.valuesvoterdebate.com .

Still no post show commentary though. :(

[Magsec]

Is it? I hear corny music.

[Mr. White]

nope, still splash screen

[lorindon]

aye, the corny music pervades my room atm

[freedominnumbers]

I think I got a proper albeit low quality recording of the debate.

If they don't put an official version up I'll get it posted to youtube in segments.

[Daveforliberty]

Why the delay? They must be "recounting" the votes! ;)

[rpfreedom08]

Yeah I was looking for the results as well. Someone post them if you can, thanks!

[BuddyRey]

This music is ticking me off.

[Trassin]

Wow, they guy hosting the post debate is trying to attack Ron Paul and the lady in pink instead stood up for Dr. Paul!

[0zzy]

Wow, they guy hosting the post debate is trying to attack Ron Paul and the lady in pink instead stood up for Dr. Paul!

And respectfully disagreed with him, and she has that right. Love the fact that she noticed that government does cause problems :).

[jblosser]

Phyllis Schaefly is the Eagle Forum lady that orchestrated Duncan Hunter's win in TX.

[angelatc]

Hurrah - I saw that too!!! She even brought up health care from RP's platform. PHyllis Schafly is old school conservative.

[rpfreedom08]

I didn't hear anyone attach ron paul?

ps. lol, this new lady is hallarious

hum.......................damn..................we ll 2nd isn't bad

[jblosser]

She's the one that orchestrated Duncan Hunter's win in TX, I'm glad she was fair there.

[angelatc]

OH no. She's going to tell us who God says we should vote for.

[Starks]

Huckabee won? WTF?!?!?

[Trassin]

Huckabee won the starw poll. Which is to be expected, he has the best appeal to the Christian right.

[Starks]

Ron Paul LOST votes? What the hell?

[Starks]

At least Ron came in second...

[Trassin]

Ron Paul got second. You can really tell that they love Huckabee, they are playing him up like crazy.

[angelatc]

Ron Paul lost votes 219 Huckabee to 44 Ron Paul.

Paul came in with 53 (?) I think.

[misconstrued]

Huckabee won the straw poll by far. Ron Paul got second.

[0zzy]

2nd is good in this type of audience. not sure how he lost votes though.

[Trassin]

They also just said that they hand selected the delegates that were brought in to vote to represent their views.

[wgadget]

Well, I guess that explains the booing.

[angelatc]

That's a shame. I think that Ron Paul is a better Christian than Huckabee.

[edmnn]

alan keyes got 3rd, lol

[jblosser]

Ron Paul got second. You can really tell that they love Huckabee, they are playing him up like crazy.

They're spending as much time talking down Ron in their own way. This is still about finding someone to beat Ron. Alan Keyes was supposed to win this one, that's why he announced when he did.

[wgadget]

It's on now...But you probably already know that.

[OptionsTrader]

So much of what Ron says is counter to the religious activists that I am agraid he isn't going to poll well in their straw poll. They'd rather hear from somoene that will ignore the Constitution, and dictate what is and what is not appropriate personal behavior at the Federal level.

Almost every group has something they are willing to get in return for ignoring the Constitution. For the neocons, it is power. For the bankers it is money. For the religious activists, it is their definition of moral personal behavior.

[freedominnumbers]

Alan Keyes was far and away the best speaker of the night.

He was like Jesse Jackson without the racism.

[manuel]

These people are really pro war.

[rpfreedom08]

why does everyone like mike huckabee? Because of all his 10 dollar phrases? What a joke

[angelatc]

It's the war. They want our God to kick Allah's butt in Iraq.

[misconstrued]

These people are psychotic

[Sakimoto]

Now they are justifying continuing the Iraq war.... :(

[angelatc]

I'm pretty depressed that there are so many Christians that buy into this war nonsense.

[rpfreedom08]

*hangs head in disbelief*

[Sakimoto]

Apparently Huckabee is God's answer now.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I guess all the stereotypes about the religious right IS true....

[jpa]

I cant get it to load

[literatim]

Alan Keyes was far and away the best speaker of the night.

He was like Jesse Jackson without the racism.

Alan Keyes was annoying, I was wishing someone would turn off his mic.

[rpfreedom08]

Well I have nothing against christians as my parents are and have always been christians but they are no where near anything like these people. Since when has war been an issue for christian's? I would think Ron Paul's peace message would be heard above any war talk.

edit: Anyone have the hole debate on video? I only caught RP's closing statement.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

These people are probably a major reason why I'm not a Republican... after all, Barry Goldwater was pro choice.. didn't know that, huh? ;)

[literatim]

I say there is a difference between a 'Judeo-Christian' and a real Christian.

[jb4ronpaul]

Christians are falling for the neocon lie that they will kill us all because we are free and not Muslim. Of couse if you believe this you will fight. Just make them realize its not true

[0zzy]

Alan Keyes was far and away the best speaker of the night.

He was like Jesse Jackson without the racism.

Jesse Jackson of Religion.

[jblosser]

I'm pretty depressed that there are so many Christians that buy into this war nonsense.

Remember perspective. A few hundred hand picked voters are as likely to represent their "base" here as anywhere, especially when there is an agenda at work.

[angelatc]

Christians are falling for the neocon lie that they will kill us all because we are free and not Muslim. Of couse if you believe this you will fight. Just make them realize its not true

The Muslims find our occupation objectionable partly because our troops are perceived as Christain forces.

Hearing the post debate commenters say things like "What are we going to do about Islam," only proves that they're right. The occupation isn't "just" an economic occupation. It sounds like the CHristain right is on board to wipe Islam off the face of the Earth.

Scary stuff.

[richard1984]

The Muslims find our occupation objectionable partly because our troops are perceived as Christain forces.

Hearing the post debate commenters say things like "What are we going to do about Islam," only proves that they're right. The occupation isn't "just" an economic occupation. It sounds like the CHristain right is on board to wipe Islam off the face of the Earth.

Scary stuff.

Definitely not Christian at all.

It does almost sound like they want a genocide doesn't it?
I don't think they know what they're saying or doing. They're hopelessly ignorant.

[erastus]

> all your debate are belong to us

LMAO. That really made my day - thanks!