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nayjevin
03-29-2009, 04:54 AM
WARNING: takes a bit of brainpower and creativity to even understand the power of the tools on this site.

can't register yet, but give me a week. the reason I'm announcing this is I don't want someone to spend 100 hours making a site that turns out to be a duplicate of this.

don't worry about the visuals -- users can move around and remove their own toolbars however they want, and use skins to change appearance. also, haven't made a banner yet - that's why the temp flag pic is up.



Where Am I, What Is This, What Do I Do? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1)

List FAQs (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-list_faqs.php)

Questions


Where Am I? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q1)
What Is This? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q2)
What Do I Do? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q3)
What else can I do around here? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q4)


Answers
Q: Where Am I?
A: Welcome to Liberty Collaborative!

Liberty is freedom, and the right to make your own decisions.

'Collaborative' means working together to create something.

At LibertyCollaborative? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=LibertyCollaborative).com, you can work with others who care about liberty to create something that helps others learn and move toward liberty in their own lives.


Q: What Is This?
A: Liberty Collaborative is an archive and network based on a 'Wiki Toolset'.

Wikis are different from other kinds of websites. In addition to commenting or voting on things — users can edit and add pages to the site themselves!

An example:

Wikipedia is another website that uses the Wiki toolset. If you look up a subject on Wikipedia, you will get an encyclopedic summary of that subject. If you find an error or inaccuracy in the article, you can log in and correct it yourself! If there isn't a page for that subject yet - you can make it!

When you register here, you can begin earning 'points' by interacting with the site in various ways. With these points come new priveleges for editing or adding pages to the site — so you can help it become more useful to yourself and everyone else.

For instance: you have your very own editable personal website as soon as you register! (Mine is UserPageadmin) It's called your user page, and you have total control of it within the framework of this site. Additionally, you can give the your UserPage? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=UserPage) link to anyone you want — so you can use it to advance liberty in any way you choose for free (unlike buying your own website)!

The tools for editing your UserPage? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=UserPage) are easy for the beginner, but very powerful for the guru as well — you don't need to know complex programming or even simple HTML to make basic changes to it — but you can do wonderful things if you do.

The Liberty Collaborative has many tools that can be used to preserve, archive, and distribute important text, images, and files related to liberty — and interact with friends in liberty via polls, surveys, charts, quizzes, email, and more.

This is a very powerful site for those of us working toward liberty for all people.

Take a look at some of the things you can do with the Liberty Collaborative Archive:

Examples:

Upload a Flyer/Poster/Handout that people can Download and print to spread your liberty issue.

Make a Poll to guage what the community thinks your salary as head of a non-profit should be.

Make a quiz based on liberty ideals that reaches out to your MySpace? (http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=MySpace) or OKCupid friends.

Download a huge image of the original Constitution so you can read it how it was written.

Skeptical? See: (link) - What! Another Damn Liberty Blog Site?!?
Ready? See: (link) - Alright Already - Tell Me EVERYTHING this Site Has To Offer


Q: What Do I Do?
A: Register for the site http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-register.php (http://example.com/)http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/img/icons/external_link.gif

Read the next FAQ (link)


Q: What else can I do around here?
A: Handy links:

Most all of the site is accessible via left and right navigation bars, and the 'My Tiki' Bar at top of page. When in doubt, you can also try the 'categories' tree and 'search' function.

Here are some additional helpful links:

Site Map - Links to all areas of this site.

Wiki Index - Index of pages within the Wiki itself, excluding the separate objects such as polls and quizzes.

Liberty Calendar - See national events related to liberty and some of the larger ones in major cities. Events on the Liberty Calendar also show up on your Mini Calendar.

Mini Calendar - Add your own personal appointments and events. Your mini calendar can show Liberty Calendar events — but not the other way around.

Galleries - Galleries of handy or interesting Photos and Files for download and viewing.

Interactive - Take Polls, Surveys, and Quizzes

Directory - List of interesting/useful websites related to liberty.

Charts - Help rank the best 2012 Presidential Candidate, Current Serving Senators, Current Serving Congressmen, and more

List of Users - List all registered users

Sandbox - practice wiki tools for editingthoughts?

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 04:58 AM
more info:

http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-index.php?page=SiteOverview

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 05:02 AM
I could use some help with a banner. site will be:

http://www.LibertyCollaborative.com (http://www.LibertyCollective.com)

Joe3113
03-29-2009, 05:54 AM
I think you should consider scrapping it and working with me on a complete re-hash.

We want something professional and i'm willing to put in thousands of dollars for web design and development.

We need slick web design. And we dont need bloated overlapping functionalities that already exist in CFL.

We dont need all the stuff in the framework you have there.

What ya reckon?

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 06:41 AM
lol I spent 100+ hours on it and you looked at it for 10 minutes.

I hope others see the power in this idea.

remember -- it's still in beta because I haven't even begun the design stages. No banner, no CSS editing yet.

Don't judge a book by it's cover.

This site is unlike any out there because it is bottom up - not top down. If functionalities aren't used by members THEY GO AWAY.

Consider the Directory. Anyone can add a link, but they are displayed based on how many times other users clicked them. In that way, the community decides what's important - not the 1 guy uploading his personal favorites.

Practically every feature on the site is like that. I don't believe I'll abandon that philosophy.


We need slick web design. And we dont need bloated overlapping functionalities that already exist in CFL.there are no 'bloated overlapping functionalities'. the calendar, maybe, but I don't have blogs, I don't attempt to create state-pages, etc.

I just hope you don't spend $1000's on someone who convinces you that pretty colors are what make a website.

Worst thing that can happen is everyone agrees with you and the website fails in the free market. If so, I'm only out $75 bucks -- and I can still use it for myself to archive all of the pictures, flyers, music, and more that I have in 100 folders on 3 different hard drives right now.

Hey, if anyone wants to come by and download them for free, or upload their own, they can do that too.

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 06:58 AM
that site you're working on?

it is easily done in my site, that's already built.

See:
http://libertycollaborative.nayjevin.com/tiki-index.php?page=LibertyUniversal

users can comment on that page. users can vote that page up and down like digg, and they can vote comments up and down like digg.

the biggest obstacle is 'newbie-izing' the site, which I have done almost ZERO work toward.

I only mention this site now (prior to when I wanted to)

because it appears that others have come up with a good new idea which is very similar. in fact, my site accommodates that idea so well, that I assumed someone else would start work on a site just like it.

I hate duplication of effort so much, I abandoned my personal release time to potentially save some effort.

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 07:00 AM
I also don't like the idea of scrapping a site that let's it's community determine it's fate (and costs $75 + $15 a month) for a site that is ready to spend $1000's in an attempt to define what it's visitor's beliefs ought to be in the first few sentences.

I support what you're doing, though.

FrankRep
03-29-2009, 08:46 AM
Can you make the site as good as the Council on Foreign Relations?

http://www.cfr.org/

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 08:59 AM
Can you make the site as good as the Council on Foreign Relations?

http://www.cfr.org/

lol

hopefully users of the site will engage and make it continuously better -- but I personally won't do much other than help with structural changes, upload my own stuff, and work on my own userpage once the site's up.

I don't want to have a bunch of power - or be the guy making all the decisions of what should be on the site - others are smarter.

I will do alot of work on pet projects, like the Heroes of Liberty biographies, the Liberty Dictionary and the Liberty Timeline

ClayTrainor
03-29-2009, 10:49 AM
Pretty unique concept man. Did you build this from scratch, or use some sort of CMS system?

nayjevin
03-29-2009, 11:10 AM
open source tiki-wiki, free

http://info.tikiwiki.org/

steep curve, pretty weak documentation, but extensive toolset.