we need a new leader of Liberty

[trey4sports]

Ron Paul has sparked a fire in America, but, his role is not to become the head of this revolution. He is the match that lights the brushfire

Maybe Gary Johnson, or BJ Lawson, possibly even Rand Paul. Whoever it is, he must unite us under the banner of freedom.......

[Stary Hickory]

I agree someone needs to lead or form a visible coalition. I would lead but I am too stupid and a bad speaker. Plus I have a bad personality.

[jillian]

i nominate kokesh.

[Feenix566]

Prior to Ron Paul's 2008 campaign, libertarians were a movement without a leader. The thing is, we didn't know how many of us there were until we all started coming together for Paul's campaign.

But you're right, Paul is too old and frankly not charismatic enough to really lead the movement into its full potential. We're still a movement waiting for a leader. Now we know how many of us there are.

[Truth Warrior]

Any "shepherd" wannabe volunteers? :D

[jillian]

Prior to Ron Paul's 2008 campaign, libertarians were a movement without a leader. The thing is, we didn't know how many of us there were until we all started coming together for Paul's campaign.

But you're right, Paul is too old and frankly not charismatic enough to really lead the movement into its full potential. We're still a movement waiting for a leader. Now we know how many of us there are.

we're not all libertarians. :cool:

[Kraig]

"We must rebuild. But who will lead us in the rebuilding process?
Man, it's got to be someone with the know-how
and the elbow grease to lead us to a new land.
No, not me and KG, we don't have the cognitive capacity to lead...
Alright, we'll do it!"

[Original_Intent]

We need a leader on every city block, and in every rural community. Ideally in every household.

Choosing a national leader is just painting a bullseye on someones back.

[jillian]

We need a leader on every city block, and in every rural community. Ideally in every household.

Choosing a national leader is just painting a bullseye on someones back.

totally agree with you.

[He Who Pawns]

this person will emerge at some point. we must be patient. just look how that British guy came out of NOWHERE and was a rock star 24 hours later. it will happen, and we need to continue to build this army in anticipation of the forthcoming General.

[hugolp]

But you're right, Paul is too old and frankly not charismatic enough to really lead the movement into its full potential.

I agree Ron Paul would be quite old for the 2012 elections in the USA (I am from Europe), but I dont understand why you keep on saying that Ron Paul is not charismatic. Before discovering Ron Paul I consider myself a leftist socialist (although quite decieved by our socialist party), my family is leftist and allways vote socialist. I discovered Ron Paul like a year and a half ago, and it blew my mind. And I never felt anything for Obama (and he was the leftist candidate). Because of Ron Paul I started researching the free-market and specially monetary policy. I have become now a libertarian who fully supports free-markets, freedom and personal resposability.

Ron Paul has something special, and you have to be stupid to not see it. He may not be your tipical tv/rock star type, but its so much better for politics... I keep watching videos of Ron Paul in youtube and my respect keeps growing. And I am not even in USA. I will be greatfull to him all my life for opening my eyes. Dont let the histerical media confuse you. Ron Paul is something special.

[Original_Intent]

I agree Ron Paul would be quite old for the 2012 elections in the USA (I am from Europe), but I dont understand why you keep on saying that Ron Paul is not charismatic. Before discovering Ron Paul I consider myself a leftist socialist (although quite decieved by our socialist party), my family is leftist and allways vote socialist. I discovered Ron Paul like a year and a half ago, and it blew my mind. And I never felt anything for Obama (and he was the leftist candidate). Because of Ron Paul I started researching the free-market and specially monetary policy. I have become now a libertarian who fully supports free-markets, freedom and personal resposability.

Ron Paul has something special, and you have to be stupid to not see it. He may not be your tipical tv/rock star type, but its so much better for politics... I keep watching videos of Ron Paul in youtube and my respect keeps growing. And I am not even in USA. I will be greatfull to him all my life for opening my eyes. Dont let the histerical media confuse you. Ron Paul is something special.

I agree, I find him very charismatic, just as I find the gentleman from south England very charismatic.

I think we Americans, even in the freedom movement, have been conditioned so much to worry about "looks presidential" that we really sell ourselves short. It's like we want Mitt "the jawline" Romney to start spouting Mises or something!

I'd vote for Quasimoto if I displayed a correct understanding of gevernment and I felt I could trust him to uphold those standards. Sadly, too many people want a smooth talking rock star rather than the truth that can't be contained in a sound bite.

[Xenophage]

Ron Paul has sparked a fire in America, but, his role is not to become the head of this revolution. He is the match that lights the brushfire

Maybe Gary Johnson, or BJ Lawson, possibly even Rand Paul. Whoever it is, he must unite us under the banner of freedom.......

I tried to start a friendly thread getting just two little sects of this movement (the anarchists and minarchists) to get along and it turned into a bloodbath. And I think everybody hates me now.

Probably whomever provides a rallying point in the future will have to be clueless about these forums, so I nominate the most technologically backwards person you can find.

[pcosmar]

We need a leader on every city block, and in every rural community. Ideally in every household.

Choosing a national leader is just painting a bullseye on someones back.

The fire was lit before Ron Paul, He just stoked the flames, we have all added wood and fueled it.
Now scatter the embers. New fires will start and spread.,Stoke them and repeat. :)

[mediahasyou]

A leader of liberty...oxymoron?

[reduen]

we're not all libertarians. :cool:

Ditto...

[Original_Intent]

A leader of liberty...oxymoron?

I don't think so.

Having someone that you VOLUNTARILY follow or look to for leadership does not take away from your liberty in any way. As long as they willingly accept leadership, no problem.

[reduen]

Every household is the answer indeed...

[Dripping Rain]

Any "shepherd" wannabe volunteers? :D

me me me
ill lead if you want a leader

alright.

heres my first executive order #0001
change the name of this forum to Dripping Rain Forum

executive order #0002
shut your trap & obey executive order #0001

im done giving orders for today. who would like to be 2nd in Command

[ChaosControl]

So many who seem so opposed to having someone lead is probably one of the reasons the liberty movement as a whole had been dead for so long. What started it up again? A leader in Ron Paul. So I think a leader is necessary for it to continue to grow, or really even continue at all. Having a leader doesn't make one any less an individual, it doesn't make one any less free. It just helps those with common views unite towards a goal more easily and puts a face on a movement which better allows those unfamiliar to become aware of it.

Of course we need leaders on all corners and every house too in that we each do our part, but we do need someone to rally behind as well.

[Original_Intent]

So many who seem so opposed to having someone lead is probably one of the reasons the liberty movement as a whole had been dead for so long. What started it up again? A leader in Ron Paul. So I think a leader is necessary for it to continue to grow, or really even continue at all. Having a leader doesn't make one any less an individual, it doesn't make one any less free. It just helps those with common views unite towards a goal more easily and puts a face on a movement which better allows those unfamiliar to become aware of it.

Of course we need leaders on all corners and every house too in that we each do our part, but we do need someone to rally behind as well.

Even though I said just the opposite, I don't disagree with this sentiment. A figurehead is always nice, as long as he can talk the talk and walk the walk.

My point was only that the size of our movement is more important than who leads it, I think RP himself would agree with that.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

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