*Values Voter* Debate *tonight* 7:30 EST Live on the following channels

[richard1984]

This Keyes guy cracks me up!!!

[UtahApocalypse]

I watched all i could handle.

[disinter]

These nuts think you need an amendment for everything... marriage, abortion.... what next?

[Jon S]

wow they all want to add tons of amendments?

[Qiu]

Alan has some strange body language..

[Vaughn]

I think your right Keys is crazy...

[LastoftheMohicans]

At least an OB doctor finally gets to answer an abortion question.

[thechitowncubs]

im getting roused by his charisma, its amazing

[dmitchell]

What the fuck is up with Keyes swaying back and forth?

[Tom29]

I love every single word and gesture of Ron Paul.

This man is a living legend.

[quickmike]

Jesus Christ!!!!! Keyes sounds like Hitler!!!!

[Starks]

"teh Hunter Bill"

[Phil M]

I think Keyes just has a nice voice and tone. Otherwise he's just an average speaker.

[pguitarb]

is anyone else having problems with the video stream??

[disinter]

However Alan Keyes is also always singing the same tune, although I don't like that song as much.

That is the very reason his is now in the race... the desperate GOP recruited him to distract attention from Ron Paul

[Karsten]

He could have been a little clearer

[Sematary]

RP is STRONG tonight

[Geronimo]

Ron oughta lose the pen in his hand when he debates.

[pguitarb]

dangit it comes back right as ron is finished with his answer

[Dustancostine]

What the fuck is up with Keyes swaying back and forth?

Its a little gay.

[sunny]

great answer doctor!!!

[dmitchell]

Paul is sticking to his guns under intense pressure - good for him.

[misconstrued]

Anyone else think Ron Paul seems tired? :(

[Jon S]

yea ron wasn't too clear. but i hate these other guys. and damn is brownback copying ron?

[Jon S]

we're back

[Starks]

Humpback disgusts me with his "just war in Iraq"

[Phil M]

Why, oh why can't every Christian be like Ron?

[Richie]

Wow. John Cox gave a terrible reaction.

[Magsec]

Ron oughta lose the pen in his hand when he debates.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank goodness the forums are back I've been trying to respond to this.


A couple tears rolled down my eyes at RP's response about faith. He's a real Christian, not these people who are essentially saying "war is peace." Pfff..

[crhoades]

Christ is the Prince of Peace - Ron Paul

[specialkornflake]

This stream is reliable for me:

http://www.valuesvoterdebate.com/livestream.cfm?host_id=f2a

[Jon S]

killing innocent iraqis is definitely a just war to me. for oil nonetheless.

[ctb619]

Is anyone else sick to their stomach watching these swine spew their propaganda?

[sunny]

tom, i'm with you!

[Qiu]

It's just more of the same-- they copy Ron's answers like "terrorism is a tactic" but they still demagogue his policy with "don't blame america first" or "there is a just war in iraq"

[Spike Kojima]

Wow. John Cox gave a terrible reaction.

Apparently he's a business man.

[Starks]

The theory of "just war" is the fundamental equivalent of jihad...

[constituent]

now... what i want to know (pre server drop)

which two muslim countries did we "save" before 9/11?

[specialkornflake]

That last answer from Ron Paul was one of the most amazing things I have ever heard.

[Jon S]

haha more of toms stories

[walt]

Keyes isn't attacking Ron - this is a good thing. :)

Keyes is angrier than Ron - this is a good thing. :)

Keyes is attacking Romney - this is a good thing. :)

Let's hope it continues like that...

[Karsten]

Christ for peace!

[Qiu]

Why is Tancredo talking about a dog kernel?

[quickmike]

I noticed Cox said "and ya know what?" 9 times so far.

[paulaholic]

He should bring up the fact that pre-emptive war is not consistent with Christian values.

Or maybe he already did. The stream is poor.

[richard1984]

This is really hard to watch/listen to. I can hardly do it.

[sunny]

I love every single word and gesture of Ron Paul.

This man is a living legend.

sorry about the last post - the forums acting weird - i was agreeing with you tom!

[crhoades]

The theory of "just war" is the fundamental equivalent of jihad...


??? This may make for a good thread outside of this one.

[constituent]

p.s. these guys are completely lame and i hate to say that RP's done himself a disservice....

but how much money could he have made while standing on that stage?

and what's this feed grettle shit... he went on and on and on and on.

[Richie]

Keys has attacked Ron. He clapped at when Duncan Hunter took a swing.

Tancrado gave a really poor answer as well.

[Phil M]

What the Hell did Tancredo just say? Hansel and Gretal?

[Starks]

now... what i want to know (pre server drop)

which two muslim countries did we "save" before 9/11?

Apparently Kuwait and Disney Land.

[PathIveMade]

keyes is a tool... a bit scary, and tancredo is looking for food for Gretl... geez.. RP is kickin ass!

[richard1984]

He should bring up the fact that pre-emptive war is not consistent with Christian values.

Or maybe he already did. The stream is poor.

He did basically say that.

[constituent]

??? This may make for a good thread outside of this one.

i'll second that!

[Qiu]

I wish the moderator would allow Ron to respond to his attackers

[disinter]

Ron Paul's latest response was awesome! RE: Jesus was for peace...

[Geronimo]

Everybody but RP seems to have brought a 'special story to tell'.

North American Union Question!!!!

[propanes]

Notice Alan Keyes applauding the other candidate when he disagreed with Paul by name.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Dr. Paul gave the best answer this round. All of the other candidates frighten me. They frighten me! A just war in Iraq? Please.

[Starks]

Here We Go! Border Question! Time For Ron To Shine!

[winston_blade]

finally a good question from someone.

[RonTaylor]

I really have to admit this about huckabee, he is pretty damn slick . . . . but so is greased owl shit, and thats what he is full of.

[bc2208]

Nau Question!

[Jon S]

is ron ever gonna go first?

[leipo]

haha, now the real questions begin.

[honkywill]

ohmyohmy. can't wait for this answer.

[derdy]

Why is Tancredo talking about a dog kernel?

Restore the Republic: Feed Grettle!

[misconstrued]

Ron Paul's latest response was awesome! RE: Jesus was for peace...

Yes, that was great :)

[ronpaulitician]

Who's whispering?

Creepy.

[Thor]

It is scary how many "Christians" want war..... the applause with duncan hunter's comment was disappointing...

[ctb619]

Huckabee is lying

[Magsec]

Who's whispering? lol

[constituent]

what's w/ the whispering?

jeez.. these are the pro's? no wonder i don't have a job.

[Karsten]

is ron ever gonna go first?

I think they always are just going to either start from the right or the left.

[The Good Doctor]

Anybody catch any of the open mics conversations?

[Starks]

That is the very reason his is now in the race... the desperate GOP recruited him to distract attention from Ron Paul

He's in the race now?

[Jon S]

wow people parroting ron paul. SURPRISE

[RonTaylor]

notice they dont have to pause after RP speaks . . . . too much applause.

[Lois]

I can't take Huckabee tonight.... Keyes is scary... They're all phony.... No wonder the 'top tier' didn't want to be there.

[Starks]

Tancredo is giving a fairly decent answer here.

[PathIveMade]

Anybody catch any of the open mics conversations?

i thought i heard something... thought it might be subliminal messages! :)

[Karsten]

John COX! How sexy ;)

[quickmike]

"and ya know what?" number 10 from John Cox

freak

[Starks]

LOL @ product placement.

[Richie]

Tancredo gave a GREAT answer. He actually answered the question. Huckabee only implied, and Cox is dodging.

[constituent]

"you're not gonna invade your best supplier"


uhhhh.....

[jj111]

You're not going to bomb your most important supplier: of oil?

[sunny]

putting ceo's in jail is gonna solve the problem???

is this guy cox nuts?

[BuddyRey]

Did John Cox just say "trade is a weapon of peace"?!?!?!

[Jon S]

brownback and cox are gonna have sex after the debate

[Starks]

The Hunter Bill and Duncan's Fence...

[jj111]

Brownback will build the highest fence

[Qiu]

Can these people give answers without complimenting somebody?

[zebov]

They're all giving a Ron Paul answer... how crazy is that?

[crhoades]

Brownback just stepped on the NAFTA mine.

[Starks]

brownback and cox are gonna have sex after the debate

Brownback Mountain?

[richard1984]

brownback and cox are gonna have sex after the debate

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

that was funny

[ctb619]

"yes to trade, no to unions" hahaha

[jj111]

Brownback likes NAFTA, protectionism

[The Good Doctor]

I hope this is not just a religious debate. It seems that this debate is "If you aren't for religion, we write you off"

[Tom29]

Ron Paul is Christ.

[constituent]

hell yes!!!!

[derdy]

Brownback pro NAFTA and anti-NAU! Duh!

[Qiu]

lol none of them, except Paul, address the specifics of what NAFTA even is

[jj111]

Go Paul!!!! No world government!!!!

[Geronimo]

He's laying it down!!

[Starks]

Wow... That was huge pop for Ron.

[honkywill]

Goooaaaallllll!

[constituent]

"that's criminal!"

...get a rope

[Jon S]

damn man ron is killin it!

[speciallyblend]

Go Get Them Ron Paul,thats Right Get'em

[disinter]

OHHH!!!! Ron Paul is on a roll!!!!

[quickmike]

ron fuckin kicked ass !!!!!!!!!!

[The Good Doctor]

Right fucking on Ron Paul! Bring it! Fucking A!

[crhoades]

RP definitely not pandering. Bring up war on NAU? not a great move.

[chiefsmurph]

Thats The Ron I Love!!!!!!!

[jj111]

Go Paul!!! TIGER!!

[Magsec]

The Force is strong with this one. Obi-Ron Paulobi....

[richard1984]

woop!

"Ron Paul!!!"

[bc2208]

"this is an easy one for me, i want to get out of the UN, etc."

[speciallyblend]

YES great points and said firmly

[ctb619]

Duncan is a moron

[LastoftheMohicans]

RP just kicked all their asses on the North American Union question.

[Jon S]

haha hunter saying our neighbors should have joined us in an unjust war! what a moron

[Vaughn]

Wow that was amazing! I have so much respect for Paul.

[Qiu]

Hunter- dodges the NAU question by picking the easy China target

[richard1984]

what the hell is up with the whispering...? :confused:

it's really creepy...

[apropos]

I just remember Huckabee calling the Americans who stood against the comprehensive immigration reform (ie. amnesty) 'racists' and 'hurtful'.

[ScotTX]

DAmn! Ron Paul just owned those punks!

[sunny]

wow!!!

doctor paul is on FIRE!!!!!!!!!

that's his best answer yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[constituent]

this is rather unfortunate.

[ThePieSwindler]

dang how long is this its still on?

[Phil M]

What did Ron say about teh *****? I missed it.

[Spike Kojima]

Lol hate them gays.

[fedup100]

Why can't this forum stay up!!!

[Ron Paul Fan]

What did Ron say about teh *****? I missed it.

Protect individual rights, not group rights.

[chiefsmurph]

yes or no. what the hell? who thought of this? do they get to explain their answer?

[The Good Doctor]

Too much God here.

[quickmike]

the server must be an apple IIc

[Magsec]

NO he just flip-flopped!

J/K J/K

[recess]

no ***** in my country

[CurtisLow]

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/3175/qqqqkp1.jpg

[chiefsmurph]

this has to be the most boring part of a debate i have ever seen.

and what was that switch from ron?

[Karsten]

He probably didn't understand how his button worked

[Karsten]

This is stupid. They don't even get to talk.

[Scott K]

What a stupid round...with no chance to explain ur vote

[apropos]

Watching Huckabee, I just remember him calling Americans who stood against the comprehensive immigration reform (ie. amnesty) 'racist' and 'hurtful'.

[Starks]

WTF Alan...

[fedup100]

Did anyone else notice that the question regarding praying in Jesus name was cut out of the debate?????????????? Actually went to pictures of the candidates and no answers were allowed to be heard?????????????????

[RP08]

You guys are welcome to use my bandwidth to continue this discussion

www.NMforRonPaul.com

These servers will not go offline...

[The Good Doctor]

Funny question from a Jew.

[Karsten]

Dr. No is voting "yes" too often! ;)

[The Good Doctor]

Tough question from Phyllis. Got to love her!

[Phil M]

Did anyone else just here someone whisper "these are stupid"?

[chiefsmurph]

who just heard that: "that is stupid" from the cameraman?

[Karsten]

Oh you get to use minutes?

[The Good Doctor]

Heard "this is a stupid question" from the open mic people!

[RP08]

direct link:

http://nmforronpaul.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138

[thechitowncubs]

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/4076/keyesup5.jpg

he is so cute lol

[Thor]

Did I just hear someone whisper "This is stupid!"?

[recess]

this is nice and simple for everyone

[Jon S]

Did anyone else just here someone whisper "these are stupid"?

yea :)

[Karsten]

Did anyone else just here someone whisper "these are stupid"?

They ARE stupid!

[Lois]

Are these trick questions? They sound complicated to me.

[walt]

Did anyone else just here someone whisper "these are stupid"?

yes - it wasn't ron - I know that

[disinter]

Can anyone figure out what they are whispering in the background?

[Magsec]

You have 2 chances to provide input on 2 questions, it seems. Not sure though.

[mconder]

Did I just hear someone whisper "This is stupid!"?

I thought I heard something like ..."Gezz, these questions are stupid." from Tancredo. Can't be sure though.

[Jon S]

they are asking questions that are too broad... these candidates could be opposed to one thing and not opposed to another thing.

[militant]

keyes is a snappy black woman in disguise.

funniest thing i've seen on this board so far.

[Lois]

Are there any polls for this debate?

[misconstrued]

I heard someone whisper this yes/no round is stupid :)

[unconsious767]

Heh... speed round :)

They should bring out a bigass wheel for them to spin next

[Starks]

Are there any polls for this debate?

Yes. At the debate.

[cjhowe]

Some of these people scare me.

[ctb619]

why do they need 50 different people to ask questions? stop wasting my time!

[derdy]

dang this chic is CUTE!

[Jon S]

she over-pronounces her words

[honkywill]

funniest thing i've seen on this board so far.

*takes a bow*

thank you, thank you.

[fedup100]

Keyes is an embarrassment :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Thor]

Dunc could not decide there...

[Starks]

Alan is such a happy man.

[honkywill]

gag... i loath roy moore.

[BIG_J]

Keyes is on something. Wow. Just W O W !

[Phenom24]

Hey everyone - may I ask 2 quick questions?

1) If anyone DVR's the debate, would you mind uploading it to Stage6? It would be nice to download it and watch it later..

2) How is RP doing? My wife and I gave up after our 20th "buffering" message in the first 10 minutes.

Thanks!

Glenn

[PaleoConservative]

Roy Moore. .. an American Patriot willing to stand up to Judicial tyranny.

[Thor]

Keyes is on something. Wow. Just W O W !

Keyes is high on Christ....

[quickmike]

notice ron was the only one not applauding the prez of Moral Law and kissing his ass:D

not that hes a bad guy, but they were ass kissin there.

[honkywill]

public display of the ten commandments with my fuckin tax monies, dickwad.

[ctb619]

notice ron was the only one not applauding the prez of Moral Law and kissing his ass:D

I love it

[recess]

ole dunkie stands up for the constitution

[Starks]

Wow... Could Tank-redo suck anymore air out of the room?

Also, shame on him for invoking the Constituion.

[misconstrued]

The debate isn't run very well. Seems really unorganized.

[Jared Callanan]

thought I saw Paul applauding as well.. maybe not though.

[dircha]

Keyes would do a lot better for himself if he didn't answer every single question like he's giving King's "I Have a Dream" speech.

[PaleoConservative]

take a quick study of the Constitution ignorant honkey hick, states can do as they please with regards to the state and religion.

Feel free to e-mail me if you need a history lesson.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Use your minute here, RP! (Constructionist judgest)

[recess]

this round sucks

[fedup100]

Can someone tell me why they ask a question and then we don't get to hear any of them answer that question?????

What the hell is going on!!!

[ctb619]

this is mind-numbing

[mconder]

You'd think they could throw in a hard question, like "Will you actively work to abolish the IRS?"

[Qiu]

A 5 Year old can do this round---- Just select yes for every question and the crowd loves it.

[lbrtylvr]

zomg the Christians is so persecuted

[ThePieSwindler]

wait how far behind am i.... i just got a question about the fairness doctrine

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

These questions are all softballs. Now I understand why the other candidates aren't here. They can't give the green light on many of these.

[Karsten]

Why isn't Ron Paul using any minutes?

[Thor]

when will Ron use his minute?

[ctb619]

wait how far behind am i.... i just got a question about the fairness doctrine

you're good

[Vvick727]

wtf? how did he work the Taliban into this one?

[chiefsmurph]

This round is such a bad idea.

[Geronimo]

This speed round thing is pretty lame.

[Qiu]

Ron should use a minute here- healthcare question

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

RP already talked about hate crime. Plus 10 points.

[Jon S]

i don't like this lady.

[Starks]

Far too much green.

[The Good Doctor]

There is a lot of fringe shit here. This gal is out of control.

[richard1984]

what the hell is up with the whispering...? :confused:

it's really creepy...


Edit: that took FOREVER to finally post...

[quickmike]

the pace this thing is going, ron will be able to use his weekend minutes and wont have to worry about his 2 minutes

[misconstrued]

they sure are softballs... actually more like tee ball....

[fedup100]

This whole thing is a load of crap!!

[Vaughn]

I don't either, Jesus was about love not hate.

[Mr. White]

this yes no round is one big circle jerk

[Geronimo]

How'd this little kid get so smart?

[Karsten]

RP better use a minute here.

[ronpaulitician]

Aaron needs a job :)

[Ron Paul Fan]

Use your minute on spending Dr. Paul!

[quickmike]

kid asks the best question LOL

love it

[ctb619]

take a minute RP!

[Mr. White]

omg use a minute on this one!

[Thor]

this is about as exciting as watching paste dry

[Mastiff]

zzzzz

[dircha]

This is ridiculous. Who designed these questions? These are questions that even Hillary would answer yes to.

[ronpaulitician]

what the hell is up with the whispering...? :confused:

it's really creepy...
If you play the whispering backwards...

[mconder]

Use your minute NOW Ron!!! The national debt is your thing dude!!!!

[apropos]

I mean, who is not going to say they will stop out of control government spending?

[crhoades]

Show that you haven't voted for taxes...Game on!

[chiefsmurph]

Cox's joke was horrible.

[Starks]

Wow.

[ronpaulitician]

Did they have a speed Q about the war yet, or about foreign policy?

[Mastiff]

Here comes Tancredo

[recess]

go COX

[Karsten]

Ugh I don't know why RP isn't speaking up.

[fedup100]

They use the speed round to get rid of the questions that need to answered. In other words they are censoring the questions!!!

This country is so fucked!!!!!!!!!

[Scott K]

i'd rather hear 10mins of RP at the end, than 1 min in this stupid round

[Phil M]

Yes or no: would you imprison my husband for trying to stop Satan?

[Zeeder]

I think Ron Paul is so bored that he can't use his minutes.

This is a horrible debate. The lightning round shows no difference in the candidates, when you know noone but Paul is actually going to veto spending bills left and right.

[Karsten]

Oh I think RP is going to break with the party on this one.

[CurtisLow]

Hmm Brain dead.

[Mr. White]

oh god schiavo