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Joe3113
03-26-2009, 12:48 AM
I've been following Daniel Hannan, the British Conservative MEP who blasted Gordon Brown, for about a year.

He is not a neocon (He even says so in one of his Telegraph articles). He opposed the Iraq War and opposes loss of civil liberties and especially treasures habeus corpus.

He also gives the Austrian School analysis as the cause of the crisis, that being artificially low interest rates via the central banking system.

The other sign that he is a follower of the Austrian school is he very often quotes Hayek in his speeches to the European Parliament.

He is, of course, a staunch critic of the Lisbon Treaty, which basically turns the European Union into one country. In fact, he wants Britain out of the European Union all together.

He is aware of the issues of regional socialist governments being set up and is aware of the United Nations agenda.

One of his few mistakes was his support of Obama. The reason for this is because he does not understand US politics very well and thought Obama would support the free market while giving the US legitimacy in the EU and hence help stop the socialist supporters of the Lisbon Treaty and their agenda. Of course he was wrong about this and I hope he is starting to realise that Obama is a creature of the Trilateral Commission and a massive proponent of global socialist government under the United Nations.

He is not alone in the EU Parliament. There are other true Hayek followers from the British Conservative Party in the EU Parliament (although they are probably the minority as in the Republicans). And indeed there is a breakaway party from the conservatives called UKIP (UK Independence Party) which has a few members in the EU Parliament and wants the UK out of the socialist EU.

Some of the good ones I know are:

Syed Kamall (British Conservative, who quotes Hayek often)
Nigel Farage (UKIP, free-market guy, excellent speaker, opposed Iraq war)
Roger Helmer (British Conservative, speaks out against global warming fraud)

If you want to see more of these guys check out this youtube channel run by a Ron Paul supporter from Europe:

http://www.youtube.com/user/europarl


I highly recommend it.

raiha
03-26-2009, 01:23 AM
Yeah i just watched Glenn Beck interview him. I thought then he would make a better prime minister than that current pompous windbag they have to endure!

qh4dotcom
03-26-2009, 01:29 AM
Oops...Hannan supported Obama and won't disown him - yet

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2009/03/22/i_wont_disown_obama__yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eqJ8k5cjP8

He's still amazing though..He is open minded though about supporting Obama so someone needs to talk him out of it...that's what several people leaving comments on his blog have attempted to do.

eduardo89
03-26-2009, 04:05 AM
I'm voting for him or Nigel Farage in the EU elections in June

MelissaCato
03-26-2009, 04:09 AM
One of his few mistakes was his support of Obama.

On Cavuto last night, he said he would have voted for Ron Paul.

Smoke the Liberty Tree
03-26-2009, 04:22 AM
....One of his few mistakes was his support of Obama. The reason for this is because he does not understand US politics very well and thought Obama would support the free market while giving the US legitimacy in the EU and hence help stop the socialist supporters of the Lisbon Treaty and their agenda. Of course he was wrong about this and I hope he is starting to realise that Obama is a creature of the Trilateral Commission and a massive proponent of global socialist government under the United Nations.

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If you have read more about why he voted for Obama you would know that the core reason is because he thought Obama had a better chance of restoring Americas leadership worldwide. He thought that McCain was a bad choice mainly because he would not be able to get the countries to work together to help solve "the crisis." He has also said that had Ron Paul been the Republican candidate for President, he would have voted for him.

Epic
03-26-2009, 09:02 AM
No Hannan is right - imagine how much worse things would be if McCain was in charge - all of the outrage would be on the side of the left and the policies would differ little from obama.

Now all the individualists and liberty-loving people can take shots at the prez without offending their sympathies toward republicans.

From his comments, Hannan knows that Obama is gonna be a nightmare policy-wise, but he also knows it will unite the opposition and time out in the wilderness will do republicans well.

So I think Hannan is looking long-term. Imagine how tough it would be to get a Mark Sanford or Ron Paul to win in 2012 with the dead weight of a McCain in their corner.

qh4dotcom
03-26-2009, 09:26 AM
No Hannan is right - imagine how much worse things would be if McCain was in charge - all of the outrage would be on the side of the left and the policies would differ little from obama.

Now all the individualists and liberty-loving people can take shots at the prez without offending their sympathies toward republicans.

From his comments, Hannan knows that Obama is gonna be a nightmare policy-wise, but he also knows it will unite the opposition and time out in the wilderness will do republicans well.

So I think Hannan is looking long-term. Imagine how tough it would be to get a Mark Sanford or Ron Paul to win in 2012 with the dead weight of a McCain in their corner.

He didn't have to support McCain, he didn't have to support Obama.

Ron Paul supported 3rd party candidates even though they didn't have a chance of winning. Hannan could have done the same.

Joe3113
03-27-2009, 07:37 AM
The point is:

* He gives the Austrian-School analysis for the crisis
* He strongly opposed the Iraq War
* He has spoken out against the Neocons and is aware of that faction


This puts him in our camp in a worldwide movement.

When he goes on the neocon talk shows he needs to say he is anti-war to clearly demarcate himself from Hannity, Cavuto, Beck etc....

He also needs to mention Ron Paul more hopefully.

Young Paleocon
03-27-2009, 08:40 AM
I'm voting for him or Nigel Farage in the EU elections in June

Is the UKIP going to be in the general for MP elections?

Joe3113
03-27-2009, 08:43 AM
Is the UKIP going to be in the general for MP elections?

UKIP are only running for the European Parliament I think.

Not sure if they have candidates for the UK Parliament.

They are libertarians and anti-EU of course.

eduardo89
03-27-2009, 12:09 PM
UKIP are only running for the European Parliament I think.

Not sure if they have candidates for the UK Parliament.

They are libertarians and anti-EU of course.

They run in both. In the 2005 general elections they won 618,000 votes (2.38% of the national vote), but unfortunately no seats in parliament.

nate895
03-27-2009, 12:13 PM
He didn't have to support McCain, he didn't have to support Obama.

Ron Paul supported 3rd party candidates even though they didn't have a chance of winning. Hannan could have done the same.

Umm...being a foreigner, how is he supposed to know any of the third party candidates?

virolai
03-30-2009, 04:33 PM
The parties in European Parliament are:

People´s Party: centre-right conservatives and democratic christians. Pro-EU. They expelled Daniel Hannan in 2008 but UK Conservatives will leave the party soon and form its own group. 288 seats

Socialist Party: centre-left social democrats and social liberals. Extremely Pro-EU. 217 seats

Liberal-Democrats: social liberals, populists and a small number of progressive libertarians. Pro-EU. 100 seats

Union for Europe of Nations: right-wing nationalists and populists. Euro-sceptics. 44 seats

European Greens: left-wing eco-socialists. They favor big international programs to fight global warming. 43 seats

European United Left: communists and eco-socialists. Mostly anti-capitalist far left. 41 seats

Independence Group: conservatives with soberanist views and a few libertarians. UKiP among them. Very euro-sceptics. 22 seats

Non-inscrits: Moslty far-right parties like french National Front, austrian FPÖ, polish League of Families, flemish Vlaams Belang, etc. Very euro-sceptics. Unfortunately Daniel Hannan had to join the group after being expelled from EPP. 30 seats

Joe3113
03-30-2009, 06:45 PM
Nigel Farage is an awesome speaker and supporter of the market. Unfortuently he's seems to be a monetarist supporter of central banking, along the lines of Milton Friedman.

Hannan gives the Austrian analysis, while Farage gives the Milton Friedman chicago-school analysis.

Perhaps Farage can be convinced.

Young Paleocon
03-30-2009, 07:30 PM
Well how about we get Farage as PM and Hannan as Chancellor of the Exchequer.

FrankRep
03-30-2009, 07:32 PM
Daniel Hannan Supports Ron Paul :: 3/27/2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8UoWFa1ftM

Young Paleocon
03-30-2009, 07:58 PM
I also encourage everyone to watch the Norwegian elections this year. The progress party which is the most libertarian party in Norway is currently the second largest party and has a chance of taking over the parliament this year. Also watch Costa Rica.