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trey4sports
03-24-2009, 09:41 PM
ok, me and 3 friends have set out to start a YAL chapter at Missouri State University. We also have an investigational meeting setup for early next month, we know te fundamental requirments and goals

HOWEVER

I would like your help in shaping the BEST and most productve YAL chapter possible

this is very open ended and I want your advice on many topics

please, even if you dont have special skills in a paticular field share your thoughts on some of these subjects.....

What is the best way to recruit Young People on a college campus?

How inclusive VS exclusive should we be?
I.E. should i try to form "coalitions" and invite libs/neocons/libertarians/3rd party people to organize BASED on paticular issues, or should we be exclusive and only accept paleocons and libertarians?

How in the world do i raise funds?

What Goals should we set? education, congressional campaining?

How do we try to include minority groups?
This is a big problem with my local "college Republicans" they are the eclusive NEOCON party, I want to get all types of people.

and lastly, do any of you have any good marketing techniques that can be applied to recruiting?





Thank you, and KNOW that your answers will contribute to spreading liberty.

Young Paleocon
03-24-2009, 09:42 PM
Yea, I've been thinking about starting one over at SEMO also.

trey4sports
03-24-2009, 09:46 PM
Yea, I've been thinking about starting one over at SEMO also.

Do it man, in a year we can split costs and try to organize a massive Rally somewhere and get a big name speaker.

if youre interested go to some oltical events/meetings and find some RPR's and start organizing and gauge their interest in the idea.

ronpaulhawaii
03-24-2009, 10:01 PM
rph - just throwing out thoughts off the top of my head


ok, me and 3 friends have set out to start a YAL chapter at Missouri State University. We also have an investigational meeting setup for early next month, we know te fundamental requirments and goals

HOWEVER

I would like your help in shaping the BEST and most productve YAL chapter possible

this is very open ended and I want your advice on many topics

please, even if you dont have special skills in a paticular field share your thoughts on some of these subjects.....

What is the best way to recruit Young People on a college campus?

Keg Party :p

Tabling might work...

Promote or Protest something visibly

How inclusive VS exclusive should we be?
I.E. should i try to form "coalitions" and invite libs/neocons/libertarians/3rd party people to organize BASED on paticular issues, or should we be exclusive and only accept paleocons and libertarians?

I'd say as non-exclusive as possible (without inviting trouble). Our ideas win on their own merits, over time.

How in the world do i raise funds?

Bake Sales, Silent Auctions, Car Washes, Raffles...

What Goals should we set? education, congressional campaining?

Depends on how YAL is set up, mainly education though; individuals of the group can campaign separately together

How do we try to include minority groups?

Don't try, treat everyone as the humans they are.

This is a big problem with my local "college Republicans" they are the eclusive NEOCON party, I want to get all types of people.

We are a big tent.

and lastly, do any of you have any good marketing techniques that can be applied to recruiting?

There is a theory that people need to see/hear something 7 times before they "hear/see" it. Patience and perseverance

Thank you, and KNOW that your answers will contribute to spreading liberty.

hth

Young Paleocon
03-24-2009, 10:17 PM
Oh by the way how is Steelman as a professor?

dr. hfn
03-24-2009, 10:21 PM
read that freaking amazing guide that was just posted on the yal site!!!

trey4sports
03-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Oh by the way how is Steelman as a professor?


im still on the fence about her. she doesnt really give he ropinion often
HOWEVER
she did devote a whole day to the concept of libertarianism and Milton Friedman, so she could possibly be a paleocon. Ill be sure to ask her stance on certain issues before the end of the class

trey4sports
03-24-2009, 10:31 PM
read that freaking amazing guide that was just posted on the yal site!!!thanks, ive been looking for something like that for a while

Young Paleocon
03-24-2009, 10:57 PM
im still on the fence about her. she doesnt really give he ropinion often
HOWEVER
she did devote a whole day to the concept of libertarianism and Milton Friedman, so she could possibly be a paleocon. Ill be sure to ask her stance on certain issues before the end of the class

Hayek and the "Road to Serfdom" is generally a good segway from the watered down libertarianism of Friedman and the monetarists to the real Austrian stuff. Or ask her if she was in Branson last year for the RP rally before the Missouri convention.

RonPaulVolunteer
03-24-2009, 11:50 PM
Steal our ideas. Our plan is to be the largest, most active YAL chapter in the country. Compete with us, copy our ideas, try and be bigger :) It's all for good!

http://BoulderYAL.org

Good luck... :)

Oh, and PM me your number and I'll call you and share some ideas with you if you like.

TastyWheat
03-25-2009, 12:16 AM
Name recognition is a big deal. I assume most people don't periodically look at the list of registered student organizations just in case one strikes their fancy. So do tabling, hand out educational materials, and try to be involved in big campus events so you're not seen as an exclusive group.

I would also say, join with other groups up until you disagree with them. You can probably find common ground with all of the other political groups so use it to your advantage.

As far as fundraising that's always tough. College students are usually pretty poor so donations might not be the most effective method. You either need to sell things (tshirts, stickers, buttons, etc.), which may require non-profit status or some school approval process, or offer exclusive benefits which would warrant dues to be paid. Aside from loaning out educational books and videos I'm not sure what "benefits" you could offer.

nayjevin
03-25-2009, 12:23 AM
ok, me and 3 friends have set out to start a YAL chapter at Missouri State University. We also have an investigational meeting setup for early next month, we know te fundamental requirments and goals

make a facebook group, and invite me if you would. I'm in springfield sometimes.


What is the best way to recruit Young People on a college campus?underground newspaper? bands for liberty? libertystock?

end iraq war
end the fed
end the income tax
end the war on drugs


How inclusive VS exclusive should we be?
I.E. should i try to form "coalitions" and invite libs/neocons/libertarians/3rd party people to organize BASED on paticular issues, or should we be exclusive and only accept paleocons and libertarians? I say market based on issues, but market to get people to join your group and your group only. don't dilute your group - but choose marketing techniques that can grab a wide variety of people.


How in the world do i raise funds?car washes - sell stickers - ask for donations (even a bit of change in a hat) at meetings


How do we try to include minority groups?
This is a big problem with my local "college Republicans" they are the eclusive NEOCON party, I want to get all types of people.just don't be exclusive. maybe make a blanket statement on your site or wherever that says you promote liberty without regard to race, creed, color, etc, but I wouldn't draw to much attention to the issue at all. Just welcome everyone.


and lastly, do any of you have any good marketing techniques that can be applied to recruiting?plaster bulletin boards

leave your site up on computer lab computers

have meetings out in the open - on the quad, in front of the library, at a fountain, or in front of a dorm. bring banners and signs so passersby see what you are doing.

Pass out freebies like popsicles and pamphlets

talk to your school newspaper - and try to get them to associate you with ron paul

Chieftain1776
03-25-2009, 02:13 AM
I touched on this on when this came up on another thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1742837&postcount=12).

I think you should join as many conservative/libertarian organizations on campus as possible. Most of the ones when I was in school were more libertarian domestically and neocon foreign policy wise. Debate the neocons when foreign policy comes up and the ones on the sideline who are sympathetic might join you in the long term.

Also this more libertarian slant was reflected at CPAC (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=182327) and most of today's conservatives concerns are domestic.

I don't know how your university is set up but student organizations at my alma mater were able to set up an information booth a certain day of the week. You could set one up with the banner Young Americans for Liberty: Freedom. Prosperity. Peace. and hand out literature (ie world's smallest political quiz) with a website address. On the website link to Ron Paul's statements and the "Peter Schiff was Right" video (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1987939&postcount=1) to show that real conservatives called this crisis while going against fake ones. I'd link (http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr071602.htm)to the 2002 version where he introduces the Free Housing Market enhancement though.

Also try to get on the campus newspaper staff and see if you can get the conservative slot of the op-eds. Or better yet band with the Republicans and see if you can start a stand alone conservative/libertarian newspaper like Dartmouth Review.

And if you want to do something really tough go to the myriad of lefty/socialist/anarchist antiwar groups and see if there's any interest there. I'd exhaust the conservative group options first though :p Also try the community colleges as well.

More generally... take the lead in debating leftists on campus. Even if the neocons don't respect your pro-defense position, they'll respect the fact that you're in the lead as far as representing free markets eloquently.

I wish I was active on my campus when I went...I really think that is the where the future (and present) is. Remember 13% of the populace (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2029596&postcount=5) is broadly libertarian. I think it's significantly more so among the college crowd.

Oh and this post (http://distributedrepublic.net/archives/2009/02/19/more-libertarian-strategizing)is funny but true. Best of luck and I'll add any other ideas I can think of.

trey4sports
03-25-2009, 10:49 AM
thanks guys, im jotting this down and ill bring up these ideas in our investigational meeting.