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Invalid
03-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Blowback (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33154_Video-_Napolitano_with_Alex_Jones_Ron_Paul_Lew_Rockwell_ Etc#rss)


...Of course Ron Paul and Rockwell are thrown in with this guy as cooks.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Alex Jones although I don't buy all these theories like 9/11 truth, but I knew this was going to happen when I saw him on the show.


Hotair is on it here (http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=34799)

bossman068410
03-24-2009, 12:01 PM
Sad

They will now push he is a Nut Job ever further.

Chester Copperpot
03-24-2009, 12:04 PM
is this "freedom watch" actually on tv or is it just an internet show?

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 12:05 PM
Why one would care what LGF or Hotair has to say is beyond me....

Chester Copperpot
03-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Why one would care what LGF or Hotair has to say is beyond me....

yep, i agree.. fuck em.. its a great show

pcosmar
03-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Why one would care what LGF or Hotair has to say is beyond me....

Exactly,
I do wonder what their connection is to the ADL and SPLC. They seem to have the same agenda.

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 12:11 PM
Exactly,
I do wonder what their connection is to the ADL and SPLC. They seem to have the same agenda.

Well LGF and Hotair are certainly anti-freedom -- anti-freedom is almost a mission statement for them -- so I can see how they wouldn't like a show entitled "Freedom Watch"....

decatren
03-24-2009, 12:16 PM
who cares what litte green have to say. who elected them the pope?

Invalid
03-24-2009, 12:18 PM
Napolitano should have kept Alex Jones off that show.

The guy is too hot to handle seriously. If he wants any chance of getting an actual show, keep that guy as far away as possible.

Is Rockwell fringe...yes. But it's a whole different type of fringe than Jones's show.

I'm not arguing for censorship, but just saying what I think Napolitano should have done.

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 12:22 PM
Napolitano should have kept Alex Jones off that show.
I'm not arguing for censorship, but just saying what I think Napolitano should have done.

Why? Based on the reaction from freedom-haters such as LGF and Hotair? Hell if those guys don't like the decision to have AJ on the show, that lends support that the Judge made the right decision.

talkingpointes
03-24-2009, 12:22 PM
This show is going to take quite a bit of heat, "Freedom Watch". Remember, "Truth is treason in the empire of lies". Despite others feelings I have a lot of neo-con sort of friends. This is a move in the right direction. As far as people that have almost toxic amounts of kool aid in their system, they think now that we're on Fox it adds credibility to the Revolution. So rather then recommending they Google: Ron Paul. Tell them about "Freedom Watch" on Fox. I admit some people in the movement might have a bit loose in there heads but compared to the likes of Insannity or Bimbaugh, we're nothing.

pcosmar
03-24-2009, 12:25 PM
Napolitano should have kept Alex Jones off that show.

.

Right, cover a story but ignore the man that BROKE the story.
:(:confused:

susano
03-24-2009, 12:52 PM
Alex Jones is one of the most committed American patriots in this country. He has done more to advance the cause of freedom than 99% of the American population. He has always given Ron Paul a platform. He is committed to the constitution. He has done a tremendous job of education about globalism and the plot against national sovereignty. And, yes, he has kept 9/11 in the forefront, when others have relegated it to the past. All of us who have spent many hours researching 9/11 know that it was WAY more than Americans have been told and we want the perps PUNISHED.

I am forever grateful to Alex Jones and anyone else who devotes their life to the cause of freedom for all.

susano
03-24-2009, 12:54 PM
I might add that Alex Jones is only 34 years old. His accomplishments at such a young age are nothing short of monumental.

If we only had 10,000 like him...

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 01:30 PM
Who the hell cares what LGF thinks? You must still be suckling on your momma's milk if you can't take that kind of peer pressure :eek:

Geez...I'm surprised you didn't give in when they accused RP of being an anti-semite :eek:.

That website has been calling RP a rascist and a kook from day one. Get a flak jacket buddy :rolleyes:.

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 01:33 PM
btw...there wouldn't be so much effort put into trying to discredit Alex Jones if he wasn't such a threat to the criminals. Have you learned NOTHING yet?

AJ, RP, us, etc., are being attacked because we ARE upsetting their apple cart.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 01:35 PM
Blowback (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33154_Video-_Napolitano_with_Alex_Jones_Ron_Paul_Lew_Rockwell_ Etc#rss)


...Of course Ron Paul and Rockwell are thrown in with this guy as cooks.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Alex Jones although I don't buy all these theories like 9/11 truth, but I knew this was going to happen when I saw him on the show.


Hotair is on it here (http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=34799)

So? Anyone stupid enough to pay attention to "Little Green Footballs" is lost on us already. Why I can tell you is that Alex Jones "freedom watch" segment has helped me just about convert the strongest Obama supporter I know. Folks who want to attack Ron Paul based on an Alex Jones or "9/11 truth" position have all of the ammo they already need. Don't forget 9/11 truther Jesse Ventura spoke at the Ron Paul rally last year! Quit worrying your little head about LGF.

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 01:36 PM
I might add that Alex Jones is only 34 years old. His accomplishments at such a young age are nothing short of monumental.

If we only had 10,000 like him...

34? Are you sure? I assumed he was older than that. Fighting the NWO must of aged him beyond his yrs :confused:

Holy crap. He's 35 according to Wikipedia. Proof positive that stress can age a person :eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)

Invalid
03-24-2009, 01:37 PM
...umm this probably guarantees the show stays off the air.

I hope you all think it was worth it so we could see Alex Jones for 5 minutes on the internet show.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 01:39 PM
...umm this probably guarantees the show stays off the air.

I hope you all think it was worth it so we could see Alex Jones for 5 minutes on the internet show.

Alex Jones has been on Fox before and those shows haven't been canceled. Glen Beck is sounding more like Alex Jones every day and he isn't in danger of being canceled. And if you think converting Obama supporters isn't worth anything then keep up your whining. Meanwhile I'm going to continue the campaign for liberty with or without you.

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 01:41 PM
...umm this probably guarantees the show stays off the air.
.

Really? Geraldo had him on his show on foxnews.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6O0ruFmfE

Nate
03-24-2009, 01:44 PM
Alex Jones is one of the most committed American patriots in this country. He has done more to advance the cause of freedom than 99% of the American population. He has always given Ron Paul a platform. He is committed to the constitution. He has done a tremendous job of education about globalism and the plot against national sovereignty. And, yes, he has kept 9/11 in the forefront, when others have relegated it to the past. All of us who have spent many hours researching 9/11 know that it was WAY more than Americans have been told and we want the perps PUNISHED.

I am forever grateful to Alex Jones and anyone else who devotes their life to the cause of freedom for all.

+1

Alex is a patriot and those that bash him are "useful idiots" for parroting the MSM talking points about him. I've made 100 copies of his new movie about Obama and passed them out to Obama fans and families of Obama fans. Many of them were volunteers and activists for Obama. It has already led to the tearing down of 9 campaign signs and the removal of 14 bumper stickers. These now ex-Obama supporters are more pissed off about his betrayal than the entire 8 years of Bush administration's criminality. They are now making copies of The Obama Deception and are passing them out to the other people in the Obama camp that they met during the campaign season. All because of Alex Jones.

moostraks
03-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Napolitano should have kept Alex Jones off that show.

The guy is too hot to handle seriously. If he wants any chance of getting an actual show, keep that guy as far away as possible.

Is Rockwell fringe...yes. But it's a whole different type of fringe than Jones's show.

I'm not arguing for censorship, but just saying what I think Napolitano should have done.

:rolleyes: Yeah we should be sure that the only people who get to speak make sure to speak in monotone and never challenge the establishment with any sense of righteous indignation. Some of us have seen into the dark eyes of hell that dwell in the government and realize the extremity of their danger to our personnal families and as such have a great deal of anger and seem overly invested in the outcome of current circumstances. Wait until you get good and burned by the government that is spewing this propaganda of "conspiracy theorist" and get back with us as to how you feel....

mconder
03-24-2009, 01:48 PM
OK, so Alex pisses me off when he does articles about Michelle Obama flashing Satin symbols on magazine cover shots, but he is dead on with The New World Order stuff. It does exist, and it's architects need to be exposed. Obama, Blair, Kissinger, Blair, Brown, Clinton, Fox, Bush...these are all world leaders who have used the term New World Order. What are the chances of all these leaders randomly using this term on their own? What are the chanced Time Magazine would have 2 articles in the last 6 months talking about how Obama will be the one to finally usher in a New World Order. This is not some nonsensical term all the leaders of the world use just to screw with the conspiracy theorists. For a lot of you, even on this site, it's impossible for you to accept a conspiracy so monstrous. In order to stop it, we need to become very aware that it is real, there are global decision makers. You can call it a conspiracy, but I'd rather you just call it a group of very powerful men that view the world as their own personal experiment.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 01:54 PM
+1

Alex is a patriot and those that bash him are "useful idiots" for parroting the MSM talking points about him. I've made 100 copies of his new movie about Obama and passed them out to Obama fans and families of Obama fans. Many of them were volunteers and activists for Obama. It has already led to the tearing down of 9 campaign signs and the removal of 14 bumper stickers. These now ex-Obama supporters are more pissed off about his betrayal than the entire 8 years of Bush administration's criminality. They are now making copies of The Obama Deception and are passing them out to the other people in the Obama camp that they met during the campaign season. All because of Alex Jones.

+1776! I hate when people only look at "imaginary losses" based on AJ and ignore the people he is STILL bringing over to our side! Whatever damage that could have been done by a Ron Paul - "9/11 truth" standpoint is passed. It's time to move forward and AJ in the aggregate helps.

He Who Pawns
03-24-2009, 02:10 PM
The 911 Truth movement is PURE POISON to be associated with politically.

It does seem to me that Jones has really dropped most of his 911 Truth talk. I never hear him mention it in mainstream interviews, like on Faux.

Invalid
03-24-2009, 02:25 PM
The only way someone could have Alex Jones on his show would be if they were so big they were untouchable, and no one is really that big.

Just leave him on flourish on the internet where anything goes.

I don't believe the 9/11 truth stuff, but I'm not making fun of the people since people fear their government for a reason, but it's still poison.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 02:37 PM
Right, cover a story but ignore the man that BROKE the story.
:(:confused:

Exactly.

+1776

LATruth
03-24-2009, 02:39 PM
The 911 Truth movement is PURE POISON to be associated with politically.

It does seem to me that Jones has really dropped most of his 911 Truth talk. I never hear him mention it in mainstream interviews, like on Faux.

It's poison because "we must not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories around 9/11 and its true perpetrators" Quote: G.W. Bush.

Alex has made countless films and radio shows around 9/11 and has said everything there is to say, and he is actively participating in each 9/11 anniversary at ground zero, NY.

Point being, when you're not being given answers to your questions about that day by the people who SHOULD be able to do so, is PERFECTLY normal. As is suspecting that the reason these answers aren't being given is "sinister" in nature. As Ray McGovern said, "for people to dismiss these questioners as "conspiratorial advocates", or "conspiratorial theorists"... that's completely out of line because the... The questions remain because the President who should be able to answer them, WILL NOT." When you think about everything this Administration has done in 8 years, the idea that they might not be giving us the answers we seek because of something "sinister" is not crazy. In fact, it's the most logical conclusion one can come to at this point. After eight plus years of obfuscation, spin, lies, and cover-ups regarding the 9/11 attacks, it is unavoidable to think that criminal complicity is the reason why.

Also, why keep covering the same material when its documented and available for download? Also, with the current state of America with the bailouts etc.

And when you're a radio show host you have to stay topical. Alex has put the info out there for US to spread/talk about. The ball is in OUR court now, we can not wait for Alex Jones or any other news personality to win this infowar for us. Its his job to move on and process new ammunition for US. Question is, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE INFORMATION?

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 02:40 PM
+1

Alex is a patriot and those that bash him are "useful idiots" for parroting the MSM talking points about him. I've made 100 copies of his new movie about Obama and passed them out to Obama fans and families of Obama fans. Many of them were volunteers and activists for Obama. It has already led to the tearing down of 9 campaign signs and the removal of 14 bumper stickers. These now ex-Obama supporters are more pissed off about his betrayal than the entire 8 years of Bush administration's criminality. They are now making copies of The Obama Deception and are passing them out to the other people in the Obama camp that they met during the campaign season. All because of Alex Jones.

+1776

I'm waiting on my "hard copy" of the Obama Deception, DVRs at the ready.

Dripping Rain
03-24-2009, 02:43 PM
this thread is retarded. this is the same blog that falsely accused Ron Paul of being a neo-nazi white supremacist during the height of the primaries
its a zionist blog that doesnt deserve traffic. this shouldnt even be in General Politics
i reported this thread to the mods

anaconda
03-24-2009, 02:44 PM
Alex Jones is one of the most committed American patriots in this country. He has done more to advance the cause of freedom than 99% of the American population. He has always given Ron Paul a platform. He is committed to the constitution. He has done a tremendous job of education about globalism and the plot against national sovereignty. And, yes, he has kept 9/11 in the forefront, when others have relegated it to the past. All of us who have spent many hours researching 9/11 know that it was WAY more than Americans have been told and we want the perps PUNISHED.

I am forever grateful to Alex Jones and anyone else who devotes their life to the cause of freedom for all.

+1

By the way, if the Government answered all of Alex Jones' charges, guess what we would have? We would have transparency. The people who ridicule Alex Jones are more afraid of being ostracized by their peers than they are of tyranny from government. Or more afraid of doing the work to discover the truth. It is not much different from those who ridicule Ron Paul. If people did just a little homework they would vote for Ron Paul. I never see much of people taking on Alex Jones on the specific issues and evidence.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 02:45 PM
...umm this probably guarantees the show stays off the air.

I hope you all think it was worth it so we could see Alex Jones for 5 minutes on the internet show.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Flatu/awww.gif

pcosmar
03-24-2009, 02:59 PM
Invalid


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OK , this thread makes sense now.

zara oly
03-24-2009, 03:03 PM
The 911 Truth movement is PURE POISON to be associated with politically.

It does seem to me that Jones has really dropped most of his 911 Truth talk. I never hear him mention it in mainstream interviews, like on Faux.

I want to thank a Ron Paul supporter who started to make me ask questions about 9/11, and in fact, the more we talk about it, the easier it is to speak truth to power. Similar subjects that were considered taboo - the Civil War, or the Federal Reserve, can now be discussed. In the beginning, people would call me kooky just for talking about the Federal Reserve. People should not feel shy asking these questions, because, after all, 9/11 was a major event in our history. We have to ask the questions, and talk about these subjects in an adult fashion. What is so hard about that?

This weekend I went to an antiwar rally, and there was the 9/11 booth next to the socialist table, trying to spread socialism. At the end of the rally, when people were closing up shop, the man from the socialist booth was talking to a browser. What I heard shocked me! The socialist told the man, don't listen to the 9/11 stuff, because they have a lot of anti-jewish stuff in there. Can you believe that? When racism, or other disinformation, is associated with the 9/11 truthers, then that is the problem.

If we could not talk about 9/11, for freak's sake, how are going to stop the nwo's agenda? How can we even discuss the Federal Reserve, or the IRS, if we couldn't even discuss 9/11?

So, bring on Alex Jones. What the media needs, is not the same talking heads, we need people on TV who have been talking about these very issues for years. Not offense to Napolitano or Beck, but you had your chance.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 03:14 PM
Invalid





OK , this thread makes sense now.

Lulz...:D

He Who Pawns
03-24-2009, 03:26 PM
Not only is the 911 Truth conspiracy total nonsense, it is extremely damaging politically when Ron Paul's name gets tied to this insanity. That is why Dr. Paul himself has asked 911 Truthers to please refrain from linking his name to their cause. He said that on national TV in front of millions of people, and still the 911 Truthers try to soil Dr Paul and drag him into the mud with their delusional "cause."

911 Truth is ranked with belief in the "moon hoax," bigfoot, and other jokes, but it's even worse than that, because Americans find the whole thing to be very offensive in the wake of the large loss of life on 911.

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 03:33 PM
Not only is the 911 Truth conspiracy total nonsense, it is extremely damaging politically when Ron Paul's name gets tied to this insanity.

I'm not a truther, I'm agnostic on the subject. But he obviously doesn't consider it too damaging otherwise he wouldn't go on Alex Jone's radio show.

So what he is saying is "9/11 is not one of my main focuses, so please don't mix that issue with my issues when using my name"; he is NOT saying "Don't associate with truthers, don't listen to their opinion, don't invite them on your shows as guests, ignore their opinion on other subjects" as the OP desires.

pcosmar
03-24-2009, 03:34 PM
911 Truth is ranked with belief in the "moon hoax," bigfoot, and other jokes, but it's even worse than that, because Americans find the whole thing to be very offensive in the wake of the large loss of life on 911.


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Don't bet on it.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 03:43 PM
The 911 Truth movement is PURE POISON to be associated with politically.


1) Says you.

2) 1/3 of Americans believe government orchestration of or collusion in 9/11. Had we got all of those votes we would have won the nomination. Unfortunately much of that vote went to Obama for no explicable reason except that most people never got the answer to the question "Who is Ron Paul".

3) Any damage from association with 9/11 has already been done. Like it or not you can't undo a public 9/11 truther like Jesse Ventura speaking at the CFL rally last year. Anyone who is so weak minded (yes I do mean weak minded) that they will not support liberty because Alex Jones was on a Fox news show talking about the New World Order and this was posted on Lew Rockwells blog isn't going to support us anyway and I don't WANT their support.

4) Running around being paranoid about this really just raises the issue. Seriously, I didn't know about this interview until someone started bitching about it on another thread. But I'm glad I found it. It's been quite helpful in winning other people over to our side!



It does seem to me that Jones has really dropped most of his 911 Truth talk. I never hear him mention it in mainstream interviews, like on Faux.

We're 7 years out from 9/11. The Oklahoma City Bombing became less of a focus years later too. So did the 1993 WTC bombing. (There is 100% proof of FBI involvement in that case.) He still talks about 9/11 on his show but there are SO many other things that have happened since then to talk about. Also the MSM is openly admitting many of the "conspiracy theories" (really conspiracy FACTS) that AJ is addressing these days such as a push for a global currency and for the total gutting of U.S. sovereignty.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 03:45 PM
Not only is the 911 Truth conspiracy total nonsense, it is extremely damaging politically when Ron Paul's name gets tied to this insanity. That is why Dr. Paul himself has asked 911 Truthers to please refrain from linking his name to their cause. He said that on national TV in front of millions of people, and still the 911 Truthers try to soil Dr Paul and drag him into the mud with their delusional "cause."

911 Truth is ranked with belief in the "moon hoax," bigfoot, and other jokes, but it's even worse than that, because Americans find the whole thing to be very offensive in the wake of the large loss of life on 911.

At least 1/3 of Americans don't find it offensive since they believe it. And I'm sorry you think the loss of 3,000 lives is a "joke".

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 03:51 PM
The only way someone could have Alex Jones on his show would be if they were so big they were untouchable, and no one is really that big.


Nonsense. He's on MSM shows all the time.



Just leave him on flourish on the internet where anything goes.


I tell you what. Why don't you start your own TV show and then not invite him?



I don't believe the 9/11 truth stuff, but I'm not making fun of the people since people fear their government for a reason, but it's still poison.

People like you who give credence to cretins like "littlegreenfootballs" are poison for the movement. LGF would hate Ron Paul even if 9/11 never happened. Just look at their coverage of the way the Israelis fought the war against Hezbollah and later Hamas. Anyone who criticized Israel was, according to them, part of a vast "Islamofacist conspiracy". I kid you not. Even when Israel admitted they accidentally bomb an ambulance, LGF went all out to "prove" it was a "hoax". And you take these people seriously because.......?

He Who Pawns
03-24-2009, 04:02 PM
I'm not a truther, I'm agnostic on the subject. But he obviously doesn't consider it too damaging otherwise he wouldn't go on Alex Jone's radio show.

Using your "logic" Ron Paul could only go on radio shows where he agreed 100% with the host. :rolleyes:

Let's see some valid evidence for this claim that 1/3 of Americans believe in the 911 Truth BS.

Trying to talk to Truthers reminds me of trying to talk to bigfoot believers or moon hoax conspiracy promoters. You cannot talk sense to these people, because they are deeply invested in the delusion. People who believe in Silvia Brown and other "psychics" act the same way.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 04:03 PM
What's even more astounding is that the Jones bashers are almost universally having Glenngasms over his recent "awakening".

Even though he is dry drunk hysteric.

Five minutes of Beck's crocodile tears histrionics does more damage to the credibility of the freedom movement than five years of Alex Jones and 9/11 Truth.


1) Says you.

2) 1/3 of Americans believe government orchestration of or collusion in 9/11. Had we got all of those votes we would have won the nomination. Unfortunately much of that vote went to Obama for no explicable reason except that most people never got the answer to the question "Who is Ron Paul".

3) Any damage from association with 9/11 has already been done. Like it or not you can't undo a public 9/11 truther like Jesse Ventura speaking at the CFL rally last year. Anyone who is so weak minded (yes I do mean weak minded) that they will not support liberty because Alex Jones was on a Fox news show talking about the New World Order and this was posted on Lew Rockwells blog isn't going to support us anyway and I don't WANT their support.

4) Running around being paranoid about this really just raises the issue. Seriously, I didn't know about this interview until someone started bitching about it on another thread. But I'm glad I found it. It's been quite helpful in winning other people over to our side!



We're 7 years out from 9/11. The Oklahoma City Bombing became less of a focus years later too. So did the 1993 WTC bombing. (There is 100% proof of FBI involvement in that case.) He still talks about 9/11 on his show but there are SO many other things that have happened since then to talk about. Also the MSM is openly admitting many of the "conspiracy theories" (really conspiracy FACTS) that AJ is addressing these days such as a push for a global currency and for the total gutting of U.S. sovereignty.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 04:07 PM
Using your "logic" Ron Paul could only go on radio shows where he agreed 100% with the host. :rolleyes:

Let's see some valid evidence for this claim that 1/3 of Americans believe in the 911 Truth BS.

Trying to talk to Truthers reminds me of trying to talk to bigfoot believers or moon hoax conspiracy promoters. You cannot talk sense to these people, because they are deeply invested in the delusion. People who believe in Silvia Brown and other "psychics" act the same way.

So, new guy, since this argument has been thrashed to death on here already, why don't you stop talking about it, and stop insulting a large portion of the people involved in the quest and fight for liberty with your slanderous generalizations?

Hot topics, here we come...:rolleyes:

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 04:09 PM
Using your "logic" Ron Paul could only go on radio shows where he agreed 100% with the host. :rolleyes:


Actually I think that was more like your "logic" and I was disagreeing with you.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 04:17 PM
Using your "logic" Ron Paul could only go on radio shows where he agreed 100% with the host. :rolleyes:


Using your "logic" (or rather lack thereof) Ron Paul has to make sure none of his supporters ever has someone he may disagree with on his show or even link to such an interview. What's easier? For Ron Paul to control his own actions or to control the actions of millions of people? Also people like yourself always try to claim Ron Paul is "just going on the show." If you ever listened we he was on the show you'd hear him say "And I want to thank all of your listeners Alex for all of there support" and "At every campaign stop I run into your listeners". He never adds "And I really wish they wouldn't show up."

Finally Ron Paul invited two prominent 9/11 truther to speak at the rally last years! I'm talking of course about Jesse Ventura and Amy Allen. Did he invite Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity to speak? That action by Dr. Paul should have finally shut up all of the "lets distance ourselves from 9/11 truthers" folks.



Let's see some valid evidence for this claim that 1/3 of Americans believe in the 911 Truth BS.


:rolleyes: Read em and weep.

http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

And that's the most conservative estimate.



Trying to talk to Truthers reminds me of trying to talk to bigfoot believers or moon hoax conspiracy promoters. You cannot talk sense to these people, because they are deeply invested in the delusion. People who believe in Silvia Brown and other "psychics" act the same way.

You're the one that can't even read A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY that clearly shows 1/3 of Americans thinks the government was either involved in or complicit in 9/11! What does it take to talk some sense into YOU?

Lovecraftian4Paul
03-24-2009, 04:21 PM
How can anyone even call this laughable crap blowback? Nobody cares what discredited neo-con rags like Pajamas Media and Little Green Footballs have to say except a tiny clique of numbskulls who will never get liberty anyway. LGF is the blog that basically called Ron Paul a neo-nazi not too long ago. Who cares that they don't like Jones being on the Judge's show?

angelatc
03-24-2009, 04:22 PM
Why one would care what LGF or Hotair has to say is beyond me....

LGF in particular. They might as well be blogging from Israel. They would toss America out the window to save Israel.

angelatc
03-24-2009, 04:25 PM
People like you who give credence to cretins like "littlegreenfootballs" are poison for the movement. LGF would hate Ron Paul even if 9/11 never happened. Just look at their coverage of the way the Israelis fought the war against Hezbollah and later Hamas. Anyone who criticized Israel was, according to them, part of a vast "Islamofacist conspiracy". I kid you not. Even when Israel admitted they accidentally bomb an ambulance, LGF went all out to "prove" it was a "hoax". And you take these people seriously because.......?

Hot Air did the same thing when the video of a marine throwing a puppy off a cliff emerged. At first they said it was fake, then they said the pup was already dead, then they said that Marines should never be criticized for doing anything....even throwing live puppies off cliffs.

He Who Pawns
03-24-2009, 04:26 PM
Finally Ron Paul invited two prominent 9/11 truther to speak at the rally last years! I'm talking of course about Jesse Ventura and Amy Allen. Did he invite Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity to speak? That action by Dr. Paul should have finally shut up all of the "lets distance ourselves from 9/11 truthers" folks.


Well Ventura is not a "truther", he just says he has "questions."



http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll


First of all, I have no idea how the questions were asked to this very, very tiny sampling of people.

I did read this:


The poll also found that 16 percent of Americans speculate that secretly planted explosives, not burning passenger jets, were the real reason the massive twin towers of the World Trade Center collapsed.

So basically only 16% of people agree with the actual "911 Truth" nonsense about "controlled demolition," so right there your 1/3 has been more than cut in half. Probably a large percentage of those 16% are African Amercians, who always think the government is responsible for every bad thing in the world. Most of them think the US government created AIDS to wipe out blacks. :rolleyes:

Over 50% of the population believes in astrology and psychics and alien abductions and all other manner of nonsense, but so what? What point does that prove? It just shows that most Americans are retarded.

dannno
03-24-2009, 04:31 PM
+1

Alex is a patriot and those that bash him are "useful idiots" for parroting the MSM talking points about him. I've made 100 copies of his new movie about Obama and passed them out to Obama fans and families of Obama fans. Many of them were volunteers and activists for Obama. It has already led to the tearing down of 9 campaign signs and the removal of 14 bumper stickers. These now ex-Obama supporters are more pissed off about his betrayal than the entire 8 years of Bush administration's criminality. They are now making copies of The Obama Deception and are passing them out to the other people in the Obama camp that they met during the campaign season. All because of Alex Jones.

GREAT Job man.. Seriously.

LATruth
03-24-2009, 04:34 PM
Well Ventura is not a "truther", he just says he has "questions."



They also say 70% of all statistics are made up and or suited to fit a particular cause when it seems fit.

Jesse Ventura HAS come out for 9/11 truth, or what questions do you think he may have? Its not what kinda coffee Bush drank that morning that's for sure.

specsaregood
03-24-2009, 04:41 PM
Jesse Ventura HAS come out for 9/11 truth, or what questions do you think he may have? Its not what kinda coffee Bush drank that morning that's for sure.

Yeah I coulda sworn he said something like "I know what a shape charge looks like I used to use them when I was a Navy Seal and that's what it looked like to me happend on 9/11" or something to that effect.

I think it is safe to put JV in the "truther" category.

humanic
03-24-2009, 04:43 PM
Blowback (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33154_Video-_Napolitano_with_Alex_Jones_Ron_Paul_Lew_Rockwell_ Etc#rss)


...Of course Ron Paul and Rockwell are thrown in with this guy as cooks.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Alex Jones although I don't buy all these theories like 9/11 truth, but I knew this was going to happen when I saw him on the show.


Hotair is on it here (http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=34799)

Who cares? Ron Paul went on Alex Jone's show repeatedly throughout the campaign. He's not worried about being "thrown in" with "cooks" like Alex Jones.

If we didn't have cooks we wouldn't be able to eat anyway. :rolleyes:;)

Alex Jones is on point in that interview. He's speaking the truth.

I like G. Edward Griffin's assessment of Jones:

"Alex Jones is one of my favorite guerilla journalists. He goes where the timid will never be seen. And he is in a hurry. He shoots from the hip, which means that once in a while he may not get the facts entirely right; but, most of the time, he hits the bull’s-eye with his first shot. He is loud. He is crude. And he has done more to awaken the sleeping masses to the truth than anyone else on the scene today. I really like Alex Jones."

dannno
03-24-2009, 04:44 PM
Well Ventura is not a "truther", he just says he has "questions."



Stop backpeddling, you obviously don't know what Jesse believes. He brought up controlled demolition on Hannity's show and got pissed when they wouldn't take him seriously. He knows those building were blown up, he just doesn't want to assume WHO blew them up, exactly.. and I can tell right now he doesn't think it was Al Qaeda.

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 04:45 PM
Well Ventura is not a "truther", he just says he has "questions." That's the politically correct way of saying I am a truther ;)


First of all, I have no idea how the questions were asked to this very, very tiny sampling of people.

I did read this:

So basically only 16% of people agree with the actual "911 Truth" nonsense about "controlled demolition," so right there your 1/3 has been more than cut in half. Probably a large percentage of those 16% are black people, who always think the government is responsible for every bad thing in the world. Most of them think the US government created AIDS to wipe out blacks. :rolleyes:


First of all, that poll was done 2 1/2 yrs ago. The number is MUCH higher. Second of all, you ever seen a truther rally before? It looks NOTHNG like a Black Panther rally...lol.


Your talking out your ass and your ass don't even know shit much less 9/11 :rolleyes:

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 04:47 PM
Stop backpeddling, you obviously don't know what Jesse believes. He brought up controlled demolition on Hannity's show and got pissed when they wouldn't take him seriously. He knows those building were blown up, he just doesn't want to assume WHO blew them up, exactly.. and I can tell right now he doesn't think it was Al Qaeda.

Having "questions" is the politically correct way of saying I'm a truther. It's apparently lost on most people though ;)

He Who Pawns
03-24-2009, 04:52 PM
Your talking out your ass and your ass don't even know shit much less 9/11 :rolleyes:

All I can do is laugh. I get the EXACT same type of response when I argue with "believers" in phony cults, psychic fraud schemes, or alien abduction "victims" etc. The modus operandi is always the same.

Have you ever seen skeptics like Phil Plait battle with "moon hoax" nuts? That's exactly what dealing with 911 Truthers is like. You guys are too heavily invested in your delusion to allow yourself to question it.

Anyway, I don't have time to continue this, any more than I have time to argue with every person who claims bigfoot ate their lunch while on a picnic.

dannno
03-24-2009, 04:56 PM
All I can do is laugh. I get the EXACT same type of response when I argue with "believers" in phony cults, psychic fraud schemes, or alien abduction "victims" etc. The modus operandi is always the same.

Have you ever seen skeptics like Phil Plait battle with "moon hoax" nuts? That's exactly what dealing with 911 Truthers is like. You guys are too heavily invested in your delusion to allow yourself to question it.

Anyway, I don't have time to continue this, any more than I have time to argue with every person who claims bigfoot ate their lunch while on a picnic.

What would you say if I told you that the reaction in bold is what you get out of people who know jack shit about 9/11 and think they do?

Maybe you should actually look into the topic.

Maybe our reaction is similar to that of the big foot fanatics because people who believe or know things that most people do not react similarly. It doesn't mean that the majority is always right. But of course you never really thought about that before, did you?

FrankRep
03-24-2009, 05:09 PM
I'm watching the Freedom Watch show right now. Everything Alex Jones is saying is completely correct. What's the problem?

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 05:17 PM
All I can do is laugh. I get the EXACT same type of response when I argue with "believers" in phony cults, psychic fraud schemes, or alien abduction "victims" etc. The modus operandi is always the same.

Have you ever seen skeptics like Phil Plait battle with "moon hoax" nuts? That's exactly what dealing with 911 Truthers is like. You guys are too heavily invested in your delusion to allow yourself to question it.

Anyway, I don't have time to continue this, any more than I have time to argue with every person who claims bigfoot ate their lunch while on a picnic.

Ah the memories. Reminds me of the responses us handful of people use to get when we first started talking on these boards about:

The North American Union
The Federal Reserve
The New World Order
Vote fraud
Controlled media
Ad nauseum
Ad nauseum
Ad nauseum

We were all TIN FOIL HATTERS!!!!!

Your a little late to the party. Some of us have a great track record and maybe the rest of you people who can't seem to get it through their thick heads ought to start listening to those "conspiracy theorists" who do.

PatriotOne
03-24-2009, 05:18 PM
I'm watching the Freedom Watch show right now. Everything Alex Jones is saying is completely correct. What's the problem?

I'm guessing heavy fluoridation when he was growing up.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 06:12 PM
Well Ventura is not a "truther", he just says he has "questions."

Oh, fer chrissakes I heard the man, with my own ears, say "I'm an ex Navy SEAL, I'm trained in demolition and I'm here to tell you building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition, no question about it".

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 06:23 PM
What's even more astounding is that the Jones bashers are almost universally having Glenngasms over his recent "awakening".

Even though he is dry drunk hysteric.

Five minutes of Beck's crocodile tears histrionics does more damage to the credibility of the freedom movement than five years of Alex Jones and 9/11 Truth.

LOL @ "Glenngasms". My wife's reaction to Glenn Beck was "he's just an entertainer". His sole basis for credibility was his regurgitation of the MIAC story. That opened the door for me showing her the Alex Jones "Freedom Watch" clip that these losers are complaining about which opened the door for us to watch the Obama Deception together. I can't wait!

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm watching the Freedom Watch show right now. Everything Alex Jones is saying is completely correct. What's the problem?

Some people suffer from conspiraphobia. :eek: Seriously, over the past week I've see hysterical newbies (mostly) even attack the idea that there might be a *gasp* New World Order. Never mind that Ron Paul has talked about this REPEATEDLY! Never mind that the term is all over the mainstream media. It's "political poison" to bring this up and Ron Paul's name in the same interview. (Did nobody tell these people that Dr. Paul is no longer running for president?)

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 06:29 PM
LOL @ "Glenngasms". My wife's reaction to Glenn Beck was "he's just an entertainer". His sole basis for credibility was his regurgitation of the MIAC story. That opened the door for me showing her the Alex Jones "Freedom Watch" clip that these losers are complaining about which opened the door for us to watch the Obama Deception together. I can't wait!

You know what else will make you LOL?

I haven't even watched the clip yet.

I just have a natural reaction to "come out swinging" when, yet again, some short sighted people insist on calling, me, my wife, my friends and compatriots, "nuts, idiots, mental defectives...ad nauseuem".

I can cruise over to LGF or Shamity's site if I needed abuse like that.

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 06:35 PM
Well Ventura is not a "truther", he just says he has "questions."


He's gone beyond "questions" to "assertions". Like his "assertion" that the WTC looks like a controlled demolition. You're mistaking Ventura for Charlie Sheen.



First of all, I have no idea how the questions were asked to this very, very tiny sampling of people.


The question was "Do you believe that the government was behind 9/11 or consciously decided not to act to prevent it.



I did read this:

So basically only 16% of people agree with the actual "911 Truth" nonsense about "controlled demolition," so right there your 1/3 has been more than cut in half.


Wrong loser. 9/11 truth covers the whole gambit from LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) to MIHOP (made it happen on purpose). You don't have to accept controlled demolition to be a 9/11 truther.




Probably a large percentage of those 16% are African Amercians, who always think the government is responsible for every bad thing in the world. Most of them think the US government created AIDS to wipe out blacks. :rolleyes:


So now you've sunk to blatant racism to back up your stupid views. Anyway it doesn't matter. African Americans vote! Also African Americans only make up about 13% of the population. So even if EVERY African American believed 9/11 was an inside job that still leave a whole lot of white people (again VOTERS) who beliee it.



Over 50% of the population believes in astrology and psychics and alien abductions and all other manner of nonsense, but so what? What point does that prove? It just shows that most Americans are retarded.

What it proves is that it's not "political poison". Your initial argument wasn't that 9/11 wasn't true but that it was "political poison" because most Americans would be "insulted". But if at least 50% of Americans believe something that's a huge voting block and it means a politician will not suffer badly for being associated with it. For example Ronald Reagan got re-elected AFTER it came out that his wife consulted an astrologer.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 06:36 PM
Some people suffer from conspiraphobia. :eek: Seriously, over the past week I've see hysterical newbies (mostly) even attack the idea that there might be a *gasp* New World Order. Never mind that Ron Paul has talked about this REPEATEDLY! Never mind that the term is all over the mainstream media. It's "political poison" to bring this up and Ron Paul's name in the same interview. (Did nobody tell these people that Dr. Paul is no longer running for president?)

Or *swoon* that wars, were almost always, based on lies.

"What if the American people understood that the "official" reasons for going to war were almost ALWAYS based on lies?"

At 2:20 in, Ron Paul on the floor of the House, 12 February 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fTVn2tMI3E

jmdrake
03-24-2009, 07:26 PM
Or *swoon* that wars, were almost always, based on lies.

"What if the American people understood that the "official" reasons for going to war were almost ALWAYS based on lies?"

At 2:20 in, Ron Paul on the floor of the House, 12 February 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fTVn2tMI3E

Awesome speech! Just added that to my favorites! Loved the last two lines. "What happens if all of my concerns are unjustified? Nothing. But what happens if they are justified? Nothing good!" That sums up the truth movement in a nutshell.

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 07:37 PM
Awesome speech! Just added that to my favorites! Loved the last two lines. "What happens if all of my concerns are unjustified? Nothing. But what happens if they are justified? Nothing good!" That sums up the truth movement in a nutshell.

Yeah it was one of his best.

Here's a Youtoob of it with music and graphics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM

LATruth
03-24-2009, 08:58 PM
All I can do is laugh. I get the EXACT same type of response when I argue with "believers" in phony cults, psychic fraud schemes, or alien abduction "victims" etc. The modus operandi is always the same.

Have you ever seen skeptics like Phil Plait battle with "moon hoax" nuts? That's exactly what dealing with 911 Truthers is like. You guys are too heavily invested in your delusion to allow yourself to question it.

Anyway, I don't have time to continue this, any more than I have time to argue with every person who claims bigfoot ate their lunch while on a picnic.

All I can do is laugh when I see symptoms of cognitive dissonance. It seems to be a going trend of some of the participants of this thread. Quite sad.

Funny how the people against 9/11 truth use derogatory statements against the "truthers".

"All you can do is laugh", we don't laugh at your beliefs or condemn you. Give us the same respect. After all, none of your questions were answered regarding 9/11 either, if you have any. Or you may believe 19 men from a cave can defeat NORAD and every other military system in place that day. That's just one story that will never fly with me.

He Who Pawns
03-24-2009, 09:07 PM
All I can do is laugh when I see symptoms of cognitive dissonance. It seems to be a going trend of some of the participants of this thread. Quite sad.

Funny how the people against 9/11 truth use derogatory statements against the "truthers".

"All you can do is laugh", we don't laugh at your beliefs or condemn you. Give us the same respect. After all, none of your questions were answered regarding 9/11 either, if you have any. Or you may believe 19 men from a cave can defeat NORAD and every other military system in place that day. That's just one story that will never fly with me.

But your beliefs are silly and have no valid evidence. Do you laugh at Moon Hoax whackos who harass our elderly Apollo mission astronauts? I have no respect their nonsensical views, any more than I have respect for the 911 Truth nonsense. Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee? Devote your time and energy to legitimate projects, rather than embarrassing yourself and Dr Paul.

tonesforjonesbones
03-24-2009, 09:16 PM
I like Jones AND Beck very much! I am also passing out Endgame/Obama Deception videos. DOWN with the naysayers! Tones

LATruth
03-24-2009, 09:18 PM
believing all the lies that they're telling you, buying all the products that they're selling you, they say jump and you say how high, you're brain dead, you have a f'n bullet in your head

Go preach Philip Zelikow's madness elsewhere, that's what you believe right? The 9/11 commission report, a book with more holes in it than swiss cheese.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8926/holesin911report0391970.jpg

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 09:27 PM
But your beliefs are silly and have no valid evidence. Do you laugh at Moon Hoax whackos who harass our elderly Apollo mission astronauts? I have no respect their nonsensical views, any more than I have respect for the 911 Truth nonsense. Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee? Devote your time and energy to legitimate projects, rather than embarrassing yourself and Dr Paul.

Ugh.

I was going to post some evidence, but what's the point.

Gald I have you telling me how to spend my time though.

Geez, how'd I make it so far...?

ClayTrainor
03-24-2009, 09:44 PM
I like Jones AND Beck very much! I am also passing out Endgame/Obama Deception videos. DOWN with the naysayers! Tones

I don't fully trust either of them, but i do get entertainment from both of them. Ultimately, the lead me to good information but i never trust them until i do my own research.

They're both pretty good most of the time.

TheConstitutionLives
03-24-2009, 11:04 PM
Why? Based on the reaction from freedom-haters such as LGF and Hotair? Hell if those guys don't like the decision to have AJ on the show, that lends support that the Judge made the right decision.

I won't watch it again if Jones is on there and I'm a freedom lover. As the guy above said, Jones is too hot to handle. It turns people off. He goes overboard.

revolutionary8
03-24-2009, 11:08 PM
I won't watch it again if Jones is on there and I'm a freedom lover. As the guy above said, Jones is too hot to handle. It turns people off. He goes overboard.

Yes.
We "Jonesies" are all going over board.
We have nothing to worry about.
We all need to calm down, people are in an "Uproar" for no reason. Take yer prozak FTLOG!
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Seriously, where do you get this shit?
The Constitution does NOT live, wake up!

Immortal Technique
03-24-2009, 11:15 PM
It was a good episode, seems to me people just have way to many things to complain about

Anti Federalist
03-24-2009, 11:40 PM
Blowback (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33154_Video-_Napolitano_with_Alex_Jones_Ron_Paul_Lew_Rockwell_ Etc#rss)


...Of course Ron Paul and Rockwell are thrown in with this guy as cooks.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Alex Jones although I don't buy all these theories like 9/11 truth, but I knew this was going to happen when I saw him on the show.


Hotair is on it here (http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=34799)

So, for what it was worth, I just read through ALL 385 comments on the clip at LGF.

And not ONE SINGLE comment had ANYTHING of value to say, not one single refutation of the subjects brought up, nothing.

It was 385 comments of Alex Jones sucks and he's nuts, Lew Rockwell is a racist anti-Semite and sucks, Christians suck, Fox News is Saudi owned and sucks, Naplitano sucks, Geraldo sucks, Ron Paul sucks, Glenn Beck sucks, woe is us: the nuts are taking over and it sucks.

Worthless.

Even more worthless is that we should even give a moments thought to what these whining, puling, vapid, know nothing, "nattering nabobs of negativism" think about anything.

Let 'em all move to Israel, that seemed to be the consensus view of the only thing that didn't suck.

AdamT
03-25-2009, 12:18 AM
I could really give two flying f's what LGF has to say.


So, for what it was worth, I just read through ALL 385 comments on the clip at LGF.

You are much braver than me. Not surprised it's all nonsense.

Invalid
03-25-2009, 04:07 AM
Invalid


–noun
1. an infirm or sickly person.
2. a person who is too sick or weak to care for himself or herself:



OK , this thread makes sense now.



I made it to say "not valid."

This is why I said I don't have a problem with people believing these oddball theories, but that I don't, but of course you have to post some insulting nonsense to anyone wop disagrees with your theory that 9/11 was an inside job.

FrankRep
03-25-2009, 06:23 AM
I made it to say "not valid."

This is why I said I don't have a problem with people believing these oddball theories, but that I don't, but of course you have to post some insulting nonsense to anyone wop disagrees with your theory that 9/11 was an inside job.

Invalid, you started the attack and pointed to "Little Green Footballs" as proof to your concern. Little Green Footballs, if you remember, started calling Ron Paul a racist so they have absolutely no credibility in my opinion.

Show me in the Freedom Watch show where Alex Jones said anything that was not factually correct.

Invalid
03-25-2009, 06:28 AM
Invalid, you started the attack and pointed to "Little Green Footballs" as proof to your concern. Little Green Footballs, if you remember, started calling Ron Paul a racist so they have absolutely no credibility in my opinion.

Show me in the Freedom Watch show where Alex Jones said anything that was not factually correct.

A lot of people think Jones's inside job theory is ridiculous so as soon as you have him on your show, it creates a lobbying group who hates your show and wants to keep it off the air.

LATruth
03-25-2009, 10:17 AM
A lot of people think Jones's inside job theory is ridiculous so as soon as you have him on your show, it creates a lobbying group who hates your show and wants to keep it off the air.

Alex Jones' theory? I don't thing Alex has ever taken credit for the "theory", he may be the largest beacon of truth talking about it, I'll give you that. I get it, some people do not like Alex's abrasive demeanor, but Alex himself does not own 9/11 truth. He may be the mascot! But in all honesty, no one except "architects and engineers for 9/11 truth (http://www.ae911truth.org/)" (623 architect and engineering professionals) has put forth more evidence than Mr. Jones. And if you don't like Alex Jones please check out the link above to ae911truth.org and view some of the hard science and data. Ae911truth.org does not base their claims on theories, just quantitative analysis of raw data, videos, and experience from working in the field in question, ranging from engineers specifically trained in commercial demolition to physics teachers that come to a conclusion derived from pure logic, not imaginative story telling.

If anyone can take their videos and debunk them with facts, not theory, I might give the "conspiracy theory" point of view some credit. Until then I still refuse to believe 19 men from a cave in Bora Bora, with the technology equivalent to a few prepaid cellphones, and box-cutters, are going to out maneuver and defeat our defense grid. Its IMPOSSIBLE. No matter what a site called "Little Green Footballs" says.

Anti Federalist
03-25-2009, 11:05 AM
A lot of people think Jones's inside job theory is ridiculous so as soon as you have him on your show, it creates a lobbying group who hates your show and wants to keep it off the air.

I'm assuming you are one of those that think that.

Why is it ridiculous?

Point out what, specifically, is ridiculous about it.

There is a mountain of evidence and precedent to point to, that, not only was 9/11 an "inside job" but there is factual, historical evidence to prove that it has been done before, more than once.

Show me what is so powerful to make that whole mountain of evidence disappear from my mind and make the concept as ridiculous as Martian moon men, chupacabras and Bigfoot.

FrankRep
03-25-2009, 11:28 AM
A lot of people think Jones's inside job theory is ridiculous so as soon as you have him on your show, it creates a lobbying group who hates your show and wants to keep it off the air.

He didn't talk about 911 on Freedom Watch.

dannno
03-25-2009, 11:41 AM
I'm assuming you are one of those that think that.

Why is it ridiculous?

Point out what, specifically, is ridiculous about it.

There is a mountain of evidence and precedent to point to, that, not only was 9/11 an "inside job" but there is factual, historical evidence to prove that it has been done before, more than once.

Show me what is so powerful to make that whole mountain of evidence disappear from my mind and make the concept as ridiculous as Martian moon men, chupacabras and Bigfoot.

Invalid, ConstitutionLives and He Who Pawns don't have .5% of the knowledge on the topic that we do. They just pretend to know that we are wrong based on their false perception of the world that they hold. They don't have the "time", they don't have the "patience", they certainly don't have the persistence to wade through the information that is out there and it is very possible that they may be lacking in the area of logic. On top of that, they already believe that anybody who is pushing for truth is probably lying, even though we have already proven that the establishment is lying and covering up on several accounts. They give credibility to the establishment, which has NONE.

It's really sad that something so important, these kinds of people just aren't willing to look into. They're so completely stuck in their world of "Omgz! The TV said Alex Jones is going to scare away all the normal people!" that they aren't willing to sit down and try to understand that what they are talking about is actually happening.

Anti Federalist
03-25-2009, 11:59 AM
Invalid, ConstitutionLives and He Who Pawns don't have .5% of the knowledge on the topic that we do. They just pretend to know that we are wrong based on their false perception of the world that they hold. They don't have the "time", they don't have the "patience", they certainly don't have the persistence to wade through the information that is out there and it is very possible that they may be lacking in the area of logic. On top of that, they already believe that anybody who is pushing for truth is probably lying, even though we have already proven that the establishment is lying and covering up on several accounts. They give credibility to the establishment, which has NONE.

It's really sad that something so important, these kinds of people just aren't willing to look into. They're so completely stuck in their world of "Omgz! The TV said Alex Jones is going to scare away all the normal people!" that they aren't willing to sit down and try to understand that what they are talking about is actually happening.

Well, He Who Pawns and Invalid are relatively new, I was giving the chance to at least address these issues and come up with something.

Their collective "newness" is demonstrated by the fact that they think we care about what the mooks at LGF have to say about anything.

Some of the "old timers", who should know better, still roll their eyes at the mention of the NWO, one world government, or the "elites" who run and plan it, even though there are daily news reports telling us that is what they doing and planning: a one world currency, government and banking system.

LATruth
03-25-2009, 12:03 PM
Invalid, ConstitutionLives and He Who Pawns don't have .5% of the knowledge on the topic that we do. They just pretend to know that we are wrong based on their false perception of the world that they hold. They don't have the "time", they don't have the "patience", they certainly don't have the persistence to wade through the information that is out there and it is very possible that they may be lacking in the area of logic. On top of that, they already believe that anybody who is pushing for truth is probably lying, even though we have already proven that the establishment is lying and covering up on several accounts. They give credibility to the establishment, which has NONE.

It's really sad that something so important, these kinds of people just aren't willing to look into. They're so completely stuck in their world of "Omgz! The TV said Alex Jones is going to scare away all the normal people!" that they aren't willing to sit down and try to understand that what they are talking about is actually happening.

Not that I don't agree with you, but I wouldn't stoop to their level by insulting their logic or intelligence. All we can do is present them with facts, not theories, it's up to them to review it and come to a logical conclusion based on the evidence provided. If they choose to ignore the facts (most don't even take the time to watch the countless hours of videos and testimonials but they still think they have the "informed opinion") that only exemplifies our point by highlighting their ignorance towards the subject. It's easier to believe the government isn't behind it, I get that. God forbid we admit to ourselves that the fabric of society is an extremely fragile illusion that would crumble if this hoax were exposed and truly understood by the masses.


Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

Eric21ND
03-25-2009, 12:04 PM
Alex Jones is a terrible interviewer, can't stand listening to him. I'm pretty much a Ron Paul junkie, but even when Dr. Paul is on Alex Jones show I can't watch it.

anaconda
03-25-2009, 02:10 PM
I want to thank a Ron Paul supporter who started to make me ask questions about 9/11, and in fact, the more we talk about it, the easier it is to speak truth to power. Similar subjects that were considered taboo - the Civil War, or the Federal Reserve, can now be discussed. In the beginning, people would call me kooky just for talking about the Federal Reserve. People should not feel shy asking these questions, because, after all, 9/11 was a major event in our history. We have to ask the questions, and talk about these subjects in an adult fashion. What is so hard about that?

This weekend I went to an antiwar rally, and there was the 9/11 booth next to the socialist table, trying to spread socialism. At the end of the rally, when people were closing up shop, the man from the socialist booth was talking to a browser. What I heard shocked me! The socialist told the man, don't listen to the 9/11 stuff, because they have a lot of anti-jewish stuff in there. Can you believe that? When racism, or other disinformation, is associated with the 9/11 truthers, then that is the problem.

If we could not talk about 9/11, for freak's sake, how are going to stop the nwo's agenda? How can we even discuss the Federal Reserve, or the IRS, if we couldn't even discuss 9/11?

So, bring on Alex Jones. What the media needs, is not the same talking heads, we need people on TV who have been talking about these very issues for years. Not offense to Napolitano or Beck, but you had your chance.

You nailed it, my friend.

pacelli
03-25-2009, 02:11 PM
Napolitano should have kept Alex Jones off that show.

The guy is too hot to handle seriously. If he wants any chance of getting an actual show, keep that guy as far away as possible.

Is Rockwell fringe...yes. But it's a whole different type of fringe than Jones's show.

I'm not arguing for censorship, but just saying what I think Napolitano should have done.

Napolitano wanted the blowback. Why is that?

anaconda
03-25-2009, 02:17 PM
I'm watching the Freedom Watch show right now. Everything Alex Jones is saying is completely correct. What's the problem?

And he's actually waving copies of the main stream press items that say it plain and clear. And sheeple STILL will prefer to ridicule and marginalize Alex Jones.

anaconda
03-25-2009, 02:27 PM
Alex Jones is a terrible interviewer, can't stand listening to him. I'm pretty much a Ron Paul junkie, but even when Dr. Paul is on Alex Jones show I can't watch it.

He tends to keep the interview guest right on topic. But that can be a good thing. His style is not the same as Charlie Rose, Amy Goodman, or James Lipton but that does not bother me. I think his style is commensurate with his overall approach. Big, bold, researched, and to the point.

anaconda
03-25-2009, 02:34 PM
A lot of people think Jones's inside job theory is ridiculous so as soon as you have him on your show, it creates a lobbying group who hates your show and wants to keep it off the air.

And before you know it, everyone is voting for McCain or Obama because it's fashionable, politically correct, or maybe even "the lesser of two evils." Perhaps a little theater, fireworks, and controversy will wake up more people than those that form the hateful lobbying group.

parke
03-25-2009, 05:24 PM
Getting Jones on his show is risky.. period. I love the guy.. Doesnt mean I believe every word that comes out of his mouth. I respect the fact that he tries to bring the truth and confront the evil doers.

Other than.. he's pretty nutty.

AdamT
03-25-2009, 05:33 PM
Getting Jones on his show is risky.. period. I love the guy.. Doesnt mean I believe every word that comes out of his mouth. I respect the fact that he tries to bring the truth and confront the evil doers.

Other than.. he's pretty nutty.

Most of the MSM-led faithful are trained to automatically laugh at "conspiracy talk" and don't really think twice about it. Jones literally slams people with information with a style that sticks out and is remembered (for better or worse). Maybe people need to be smacked over the head every once and awhile, and just then it might begin to sink in. Jones seems to play that role.

I have some friends who live in Austin, TX and they used to think I was wacky for listening to AJ. Then one day one of them said alot of what Jones had been saying over the years was now coming to pass. So now they don't think he's crazy anymore, other than his style which is a little over the top sometimes.

It's all about planting seeds in people's minds.

ClayTrainor
03-25-2009, 06:10 PM
It's all about planting seeds in people's minds.

Yup.

Ask them the right questions, and let them see the answers themselves as time passes ;)

jmdrake
03-26-2009, 04:37 PM
I won't watch it again if Jones is on there and I'm a freedom lover. As the guy above said, Jones is too hot to handle. It turns people off. He goes overboard.

Fine. Don't watch the show. The world doesn't revolve around you anyway. Alex Jones has helped and is continuing to help the movement and Napolitino made the right decision having him on the show. If you get your own show you can invite different guests.