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FrankRep
03-23-2009, 06:14 PM
UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt

Times Online UK
March 22, 2009

JONATHON PORRITT, one of Gordon Brown’s leading green advisers, is to warn that Britain must drastically reduce its population if it is to build a sustainable society.

Porritt’s call will come at this week’s annual conference of the Optimum Population Trust (OPT), of which he is patron.

The trust will release research suggesting UK population must be cut to 30m if the country wants to feed itself sustainably.

Porritt said: “Population growth, plus economic growth, is putting the world under terrible pressure.

“Each person in Britain has far more impact on the environment than those in developing countries so cutting our population is one way to reduce that impact.”

Population growth is one of the most politically sensitive environmental problems. The issues it raises, including religion, culture and immigration policy, have proved too toxic for most green groups.

However, Porritt is winning scientific backing. Professor Chris Rapley, director of the Science Museum, will use the OPT conference, to be held at the Royal Statistical Society, to warn that population growth could help derail attempts to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

Rapley, who formerly ran the British Antarctic Survey, said humanity was emitting the equivalent of 50 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year.

“We have to cut this by 80%, and population growth is going to make that much harder,” he said.

Such views on population have split the green movement. George Monbiot, a prominent writer on green issues, has criticised population campaigners, arguing that “relentless” economic growth is a greater threat.

Many experts believe that, since Europeans and Americans have such a lopsided impact on the environment, the world would benefit more from reducing their populations than by making cuts in developing countries.

This is part of the thinking behind the OPT’s call for Britain to cut population to 30m — roughly what it was in late Victorian times.

Britain’s population is expected to grow from 61m now to 71m by 2031. Some politicians support a reduction.

Phil Woolas, the immigration minister, said: “You can’t have sustainability with an increase in population.”

The Tory leader, David Cameron, has also suggested Britain needs a “coherent strategy” on population growth.

Despite these comments, however, government and Conservative spokesmen this weekend both distanced themselves from any population policy. ”


SOURCE:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5950442.ece

Isaac Bickerstaff
03-23-2009, 08:27 PM
That is such bullshit.
http://www.earthlypursuits.com/FarmFC/FFC/f_%20H_%20King%20Farmers%20of%20Forty%20Centuries. htm

Our earth can EASILY support twenty billion or more if we just operate it correctly.

Sustainability should not mean population reduction; it should mean using your brain. Sadly, the modern green movement has no desire or ability to perform the latter.

Gosmokesome
03-23-2009, 09:01 PM
We have to kill all the Jews to save the economy would be logic in the same vein I believe.

jmdrake
03-23-2009, 11:59 PM
<sarcasm on>
Oh no. There's not eugenicist conspiracy to kill off most of the worlds population. It's just all a ruse to make Ron Paul look bad. We have to save Ron Paul from all of the crazy conspiracy theorists of the world and get him to sing and dance and talk about "change" so he'll be "accepted" like McCain and Obama.
<sarcasm off>

silverhawks
03-24-2009, 12:02 AM
Can I point this out too?


Britain’s population is expected to grow from 61m now to 71m by 2031. Some politicians support a reduction.

Ok - then they're first to go.

Here's some more info on Porritt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Porritt) and the Optimum Population Trust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_Population_Trust).

Now, apparently what the Trust promotes is "easier access to family planning, better education and rights for women and that couples "stop at two". For the UK, it advocates greater effort to reduce the high rate of teenage pregnancies and that immigration is brought into balance with emigration."

Anyone please explain to me how those initiatives are meant to shave off 30 million from the projected population of the country in 22 years?

And more importantly, what right does government actually have to dictate how many children you can have, in a supposedly free society?