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Brian Defferding
03-23-2009, 09:49 AM
News link: http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2009/03/16/massachusetts_faces_costs_of_big_health_care_plan/
angelatc
03-23-2009, 09:51 AM
As a Canadian once pointed out to me on Yahoo Answers, socialism only works if *everybody* participates.

So it must actually be the fault of the other 49 states. :)
ItsTime
03-23-2009, 09:51 AM
What is Mitt "I Like Mandates" Romney saying about it?
tmosley
03-24-2009, 10:09 AM
They should have done what Keynes said, and just spent more money! Something wrong? Spend money, it's a cure all!

Got AIDS? Grind up 100 dollar bills and inject them into your bloodstream! Have a Depression on your hands? Print money and give it to the bankers? Got a backache? Fashion a back brace out of money! Easy as it can be!
Liberty Rebellion
03-25-2009, 09:58 AM
As a Canadian once pointed out to me on Yahoo Answers, socialism only works if *everybody* participates.

So it must actually be the fault of the other 49 states. :)

That Canadian on Yahoo Answers obviously hasn't heard of the Socialist Insecurity system in the States.

Socialism "works" for a while and then it collapses.
NationaliseIt
03-25-2009, 02:45 PM
Socialism "works" for a while and then it collapses.

UHC is still going in the rest of the civilised world.
kathy88
03-25-2009, 03:22 PM
Thanks, Mitt. ANyone check to see if this news has affected his popularity in the head-to-head with RP in the brackets?
Dary
03-25-2009, 03:26 PM
First, they force you into mandated insurance.

"Those who do not enroll but are deemed able to afford insurance can be fined up to $1,068 in the 2009 tax year."

Then they take away your benefits

"...the state and federal governments may need to place actual limits on health spending, which could lead to rationing of care."

So if you want to be sure that you can get care, your best bet (or maybe even your only bet) would be to opt out of the system, pay the fine and seek out a doctor who will accept cash AND provide treatment.

That is if you have the cash to begin with. :rolleyes:
Liberty Rebellion
03-25-2009, 10:17 PM
UHC is still going in the rest of the civilised world.

Socialism doesn't equate to being civilized. We'll see how long that lasts when the socialist programs can no longer sustain themselves when funding dries up due to the global depression.

Besides, the USA government spends more money on healthcare than any other socialist nation, and yet, we have the highest prices for medical expenses. Go figure:rolleyes:
angelatc
03-29-2009, 11:48 AM
UHC is still going in the rest of the civilised world.

Propped up largely by our system and our capitalist money.
GaryVSen
04-12-2009, 08:51 PM
someone told me the fine was close to 4,000 dollars but I don't know if thats true
Brian Defferding
04-13-2009, 08:04 AM
someone told me the fine was close to 4,000 dollars but I don't know if thats true

I don't think that's true, I think it's around the $100-$200 range.
acptulsa
04-13-2009, 08:38 AM
UHC is still going in the rest of the civilised world.

And none of it is attempted on the scale required to cover the entire U.S. And no one attempts it in the U.S. where Big Pharma controls more than half the legislators with massive campaign contributions, either. Except Taxachussetts, of course.

And we see what a fine example it is. How to go broke in one easy lesson. Thanks, Mitt.