Brutal Illegal Alien Murderer from Mexico

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Some estimates put the murder rate by illegal aliens (mostly from Mexico) at 4 Americans killed per day.



The sheer amount of murders committed by illegal aliens is staggering. The main factor that makes them troublesome is that their presence in the United States is illegal, if they weren't here these crimes would not have happened. But do to the troubling relationship between the open borders collectivist community and the main stream media, these issues are buried and oft overlooked. Many of these folks avoid any sort of law simply because they have a special pass, their ethnicity (most illegal aliens are from Mexico 14-20 million) allows them to avoid prosecution. In most instances, illegal aliens have been arrested and deported several times but take advantage of open border to enter again.



This particular case is mild considering some of the brutality and pure violent hate that has arisen from attacks by illegal aliens from Mexico. Many terrorist groups and far left open borders advocates have been interfering with the law in order to make it possible for more ethnic nationalist socialists to avoid prosecution. They have created a class of people who are above the rule of law because the embody all the proper cultural traits deemed critical by globalists and authoritarian collectivists. They balkanize and do not integrate. They tend to have very low education levels and are susceptible to propaganda, especially that which is dispensed by Spanish language television. The illegal alien from Mexico poses a rare opportunity for global corporatists, open borders collectivists and terror groups to find unity on an idea. Which of course leaves the American people who follow the rule of law and love the Constitution and Declaration of Independence fighting to restore their republic against such strongly funded and armed adversaries. Take an ethnic nationalist socialist from Mexico, with little education, cultural tendencies to avoid assimilation, no respect for the rule of law and back him up with junk science and global corporate millions and you have the next jack booted thug of this century.



Tens of thousands of lives would be saved if we protected our borders and enforced the immigration laws already on the books. Tell your representatives to stop their racist exclusion policies, everyone regardless of ethnicity is subject to the rule of law. Now nobody pays attention until one of the illegal aliens from Mexico brutally murders someone...Remember what happened to Dani Countryman?



Probably not, the media buried it because it was a murder committed by folks who they champion.



She was a teen raped and strangled (actually had her throat slowly crushed by an illegal while he laughed at her)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVoWxUfC9Lo







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Mo. town outraged over killings, illegal immigrant



By JIM SALTER

Associated Press Writer





HANNIBAL, Mo. (AP) -- A Hannibal police officer was finishing up mundane paperwork on a quiet Saturday morning when Manuel Cazares walked into the station, blood splattered on his hands and shoes.



Cazares put his hands out, crossed them, and told the officer to arrest him.



"I killed two people," he allegedly said.



Details surrounding the allegations are far too common: an abusive relationship, a jilted lover, a sudden attack.



But some in this Mississippi River community of 17,000 best known as Mark Twain's hometown aren't just outraged by the violence. They also question why Cazares was in Hannibal at all.



Cazares admitted after his arrest that he is an illegal immigrant from the Mexican state of Michoacan. The 32-year-old had several run-ins with law enforcement before the homicides, but officials had never questioned his legal status.



Now he is charged with two counts of second-degree murder and armed criminal action in the Feb. 28 deaths of his ex-girlfriend, 27-year-old Amanda Thomas, and 25-year-old Carl Patrick Epley.



"I don't know how this happens," said Tina White-Masengill, Thomas' sister. "My stepdad told police many times, 'I don't even think the guy's a legal citizen.'"



During his three years in Hannibal, Cazares managed to avoid detection, despite a few traffic violations and a property damage conviction after an arrest for allegedly beating up Thomas and tearing up her home. Thomas had a restraining order against Cazares, who got probation in the property-damage case.



Police say his name wasn't in a database maintained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Police and Cazares' boss also say he had authentic-looking identification, including a Social Security card. And police noted that Cazares speaks fluent English.



Cazares' attorney did not return phone messages seeking comment. Cazares is being held in lieu of $1 million bond.



Hannibal police declined several interview requests from The Associated Press, but said soon after the killing that they had received several angry calls, some with racial overtones.



Days after the killings, rocks were thrown through plate-glass windows at the Mexican restaurant where Cazares worked. The FBI decided against opening a hate-crime investigation after concluding that it was vandalism, not retaliation.



Hundreds of messages related to the case were posted on the Hannibal Courier-Post Web site, with several questioning why authorities hadn't been able to determine Cazares' legal status before. One suggested police should conduct raids to seek out other illegal immigrants.



"Of course we have folks who say that's unconstitutional and racial profiling so we have to ignore the problem until this sort of terrible tragedy takes place," the posting read. The newspaper eventually took down the postings.



At a news conference, police Capt. James Hark told reporters that tracking illegal immigrants is a federal responsibility. He said the department is sympathetic to the victims' families, "but, in retrospect, there's nothing in the system that would have prevented this from happening."



ICE spokesman Carl Rusnok said the agency seeks to work closely with local police to uncover illegal immigrants.



"When local law enforcement suspect that they have arrested an illegal alien on criminal charges, we encourage them to forward those suspicions to ICE, where we will make the appropriate determination whether that person is in the country legally or illegally, and whether...CONT

Maybe they are just doing the jobs Americans won't do?

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Here are some video clips:
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=302183

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I think most of us have seen so much of this stuff that, I literally don't feel outrage over it after years of it. Like this stuff used to bother me, and now I'm like whatever because the Treasury and the Fed are probably doing even more outragous stuff.

Honestly, I completely oppose amnety, but I dislike these programs conservatives want like giant wall, employee verification, national I.D.

Eisenhower delt with immigration without all these power grabs although in a very politically incorrect way.

Can't they just enforce current law? Not let people use multiple social security numbers etc rather than have Guiliani tell us about his new national I.D. with fingerprints and info embedded electronally.

[50calray]

I think most of us have seen so much of this stuff that, I literally don't feel outrage over it after years of it. Like this stuff used to bother me, and now I'm like whatever because the Treasury and the Fed are probably doing even more outragous stuff.

Honestly, I completely oppose amnety, but I dislike these programs conservatives want like giant wall, employee verification, national I.D.

Eisenhower delt with immigration without all these power grabs although in a very politically incorrect way.

Can't they just enforce current law? Not let people use multiple social security numbers etc rather than have Guiliani tell us about his new national I.D. with fingerprints and info embedded electronally.


Enforcing the Laws on the books is the obvious way things should be handled. Just look at the hijackers of 9/11 all of which was in the country illegally with expired VISAs. Just imagine how different things would be if the INS would have deported them guys.


The problem is the government wants to use issues like what we have down on the border here in Texas to push through their BS agenda. This agenda or laws will do more harm to our Rights than good. Attorney General Eric Holder announced last month him and Obama was going to seek reinstatement of the Assault Weapon Ban based on the crime rate in Mexico. They claim 90% of the firearms in Mexico can be traced back to the US. But Mexico has failed to present us with serial numbers to verify it. They expect people to believe the Drug Cartels are buying over priced Semi Automatic rifles instead of cheap Full Autos from South America.

The same thing with illegals, they want to use this issue to push through a national license or some other agenda like eliminating our borders. It's a mess similar to a Spider's Web, it's entangled to a point of no real solution.

[constituent]

Enforcing the Laws on the books is the obvious way things should be handled. Just look at the hijackers of 9/11 all of which was in the country illegally with expired VISAs. Just imagine how different things would be if the INS would have deported them guys.


The problem is the government wants to use issues like what we have down on the border here in Texas to push through their BS agenda. This agenda or laws will do more harm to our Rights than good. Attorney General Eric Holder announced last month him and Obama was going to seek reinstatement of the Assault Weapon Ban based on the crime rate in Mexico. They claim 90% of the firearms in Mexico can be traced back to the US. But Mexico has failed to present us with serial numbers to verify it. They expect people to believe the Drug Cartels are buying over priced Semi Automatic rifles instead of cheap Full Autos from South America.

The same thing with illegals, they want to use this issue to push through a national license or some other agenda like eliminating our borders. It's a mess similar to a Spider's Web, it's entangled to a point of no real solution.

qft

welcome to the board, texas ftw!

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Ya, or maybe we stop issuing subprime loans to anyone and everyone.

That would make too much sense though.

[Zippyjuan]

Another Chosen Hates Immigarants thread.

So all illegal aliens are murderers? Do they lead to higher rates of crime? The number of illegal immigrants has been going up and yet the crime rate hasn't.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1717575,00.html

Immigration: No Correlation With Crime
By Kathleen Kingsbury Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2008

Despite our melting-pot roots, Americans have often been quick to blame the influx of immigrants for rising crime rates. But new research released Monday shows that immigrants in California are, in fact, far less likely than U.S.-born Californians are to commit crime. While people born abroad make up about 35% of California's adult population, they account for only about 17% of the adult prison population, the report by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) showed. Indeed, among men ages 18 to 40 — the demographic most likely to be imprisoned — those born in the U.S. were 10 times more likely than foreign-born men to be incarcerated.

"From a public safety standpoint, there would be little reason to limit immigration," says Kristin Butcher, an economics professor at Wellesley College and one of the report's authors.

The new report even bolsters claims by some academics that increased immigration makes the United States safer. A second study, released earlier this month by Washington-based nonprofit Immigration Policy Center, found that on the national level, U.S.-born men ages 18-39 are five times more likely to be incarcerated than are their foreign-born peers. And, while the number of illegal immigrants in the country doubled between 1994 and 2005, violent crime declined by nearly 35% and property crimes by 26% over the same period. The PPIC even determined that on average, between 2000 and 2005, cities such as Los Angeles that took in a higher share of recent immigrants saw their crime rates fall further than cities with a lower influx of illegals.

Driving these statistics, researchers believe, are the same factors that drive immigration in the first place. "People who make the decision to come here from another country want to get ahead, establish a better life," says Harvard sociology professor Robert Sampson. "That dream is not something they're likely to risk by getting arrested."

Sampson and colleagues recently examined more than 3,000 violent acts committed in Chicago from 1995 to 2003, analyzing police records, census data and a survey of more than 8,000 residents. They discovered what Sampson calls the "Latino Paradox" — first-generation Mexican immigrants were 45% less likely to engage in violence than third-generation Americans. This pattern continued into the second generation, which was 22% less likely to be violent. Similar trends have been seen in New York and Miami, both of which have large immigrant enclaves. "Immigrant communities are often responsible for revitalizing the urban neighborhoods that they live in," Sampson says. The irony of people's popular misconceptions, he adds, is "that the longer one is exposed to American culture, the more likely you are to participate in violence."


More at the link if anybody is interested.

Another:
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/171109

Study: Immigrants don't raise U.S. crime rate
Eunice Moscoso
Cox News Service
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 02.27.2007
advertisementWASHINGTON — Immigrants — both legal and illegal — do not raise the rate of crime in the United States, according to a study released Monday.
In every ethnic group, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants, even those who are less educated, said the study by the Immigration Policy Center, an immigrant-advocacy group in Washington. This holds especially true for Mexicans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans, who make up the bulk of the illegal population. The authors of the study say it dispels the common notion — which they say is propagated by excessive media coverage of crimes and gang activity — that immigrants commit crimes at higher rates than native-born Americans.
"The misperception that immigrants, especially illegal immigrants, are responsible for higher crime rates is deeply rooted in American public opinion and is sustained by media anecdotes and popular myth," said Ruben G. Rumbaut, a sociology professor at the University of California-Irvine. "This perception is not supported empirically. In fact, it is refuted by the preponderance of scientific evidence."
The incarceration rate of U.S.- born men 18 to 39 years old in 2000 was 3.5 percent — five times higher than the incarceration rate of their immigrant counterparts, the study found.
The report — which analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau, police records and other sources — also shows that a large increase in illegal immigrants has not resulted in a rise in crime. Since 1994, violent crime in the United States has declined 34 percent, and property crime has fallen 26 percent. At the same time, the illegal immigrant population has doubled to around 12 million.

If they do commit crimes they certainly should be deported.

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Zippy,

I think he's talking about illegal immigrants not immigrants.

[LibertyEagle]

I think most of us have seen so much of this stuff that, I literally don't feel outrage over it after years of it. Like this stuff used to bother me, and now I'm like whatever because the Treasury and the Fed are probably doing even more outragous stuff.

Honestly, I completely oppose amnety, but I dislike these programs conservatives want like giant wall, employee verification, national I.D.

Eisenhower delt with immigration without all these power grabs although in a very politically incorrect way.

Can't they just enforce current law? Not let people use multiple social security numbers etc rather than have Guiliani tell us about his new national I.D. with fingerprints and info embedded electronally.

My understanding is that E-Verify was a way to validate the SS numbers. Unfortunately, the Dems just killed it. By the way, traditional conservatives (the REAL conservatives) don't support things like the national ID.

[Chosen]

Zippy,

I think he's talking about illegal immigrants not immigrants.
Yes, but this is always intentionally skewed. Primarily because the far leftists have no way of dealing with the violation of the rule of law by illegals and their special avoidance of prosecution. Immigrant is a legal individual, an illegal alien is not.

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Was "e-verify" to be mandatory for the private sector too?

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Was "e-verify" to be mandatory for the private sector too?

Yea, conservatives love stuff like that.

[Zippyjuan]

Zippy,

I think he's talking about illegal immigrants not immigrants.

Can anyone provide illegal immigrant crime statistics? The murder rate in the country is down while the number of illegal immigrants is up.

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Funny how these illegals get a pass from the police. The ones that I know are petrified by the sight of a police car. Funny reaction for such a protected existence. Maybe they just murdered somebody or something.
What is real, the perception or the reality?

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I don't like E-verify if it's mandatory for the private sector. Just oppose amnesty, and if the find ways to enforce current law like not letting people use multiple social security numbers and multiple tax returns