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GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 04:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgGU7hiPoV8

passed by acclimation of unanimous consent. Several people had to stand up and say how they have been long awaiting someone bold enough to do this kind of thing. the video contains my speech only. the side-panel contains the text of the resolution that was passed.

view, click, rate etc etc etc. ;-) this is my second video ever. Anther video of my speech running for 1st Vice Chairman will be up later; but it is more administrative and less exciting I think. :o

ronpaulhawaii
03-21-2009, 04:37 PM
http://www.naechstenliebe.or.at/images/konzert23052007/standing_gross.gif

Great Work, Glen!!!

tremendoustie
03-21-2009, 04:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgGU7hiPoV8

passed by acclimation of unanimous consent. Several people had to stand up and say how they have been long awaiting someone bold enough to do this kind of thing. the video contains my speech only. the side-panel contains the text of the resolution that was passed.

view, click, rate etc etc etc. ;-) this is my second video ever. Anther video of my speech running for 1st Vice Chairman will be up later; but it is more administrative and less exciting I think. :o

Respect! Great speech.

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 04:47 PM
Wow, thanks guys! I just posted it more to let you know that there still are "establishment" Republican orgs in America who respond very well to this kind of stuff. Oh, yeah, and I thought the speech rocked too. I only wish I had the time to memorize it first.

Dripping Rain
03-21-2009, 04:49 PM
wow. youre quite younger than i thought gunny. i thought you were like 65 or something lolol great speech

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 05:00 PM
wow. youre quite younger than i thought gunny. i thought you were like 65 or something lolol great speech

35, actually. "GunnyFreedom" was my 'nom-d'revolution' while below in my signature I show my actual rank attained, of corporal. If we end up looking at FEMA Camps, then "GunnyFreedom" will become my only name. :D

pcosmar
03-21-2009, 05:29 PM
Nicely done.
And if we end up in camps, some remember escape and evasion. ;)
Though I hope to be on the outside making holes in the wire. :cool:

StudentForPaul08
03-21-2009, 05:30 PM
Great speech Gunny. Short and sweet. :P

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 07:12 PM
Nicely done.
And if we end up in camps, some remember escape and evasion. ;)
Though I hope to be on the outside making holes in the wire. :cool:

Well, as long as you are going to volunteer for the really dangerous bit, I'll sit back 800 yards and neutralize the towers. ;-) Of course, a couple well-placed RPG's will do a better job than wire-cutters up close and personal. I'll do my part to keep the wire-cutters safe. :D

LittleLightShining
03-21-2009, 07:14 PM
That was great, Gunny. I think everyone in my county committee but the chair would vote for a resolution like this, too. September reorganization can't come soon enough.

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 07:23 PM
Great speech Gunny. Short and sweet. :P

Thanks again, I could have gone another 2 minutes, and it probably would have been more effective had I spoke a little more slowly.

But in any case, I just want folks here on the RPF's to know that there really and seriously are 'our people' scattered randomly about the GOP establishment, hoping and praying for us Paulers to sweep in and change the way business is done.

There are, of course, also entrenched establishment mafias like Catawba County NC; which just got spanked HARD by the State GOP for shenanigans wherein they tried to shut us out of the process.

Their attempt did not go as planned. The State org (also an establishment mafia, but we forced their hand, because we control the largest cohesive voting block in the State GOP now) was forced to dissolve the committee of Catawba County, declare the County 'unorganized' according to the Plan of Order, and will be holding a do-over Convention where us Constitutionalists will utterly dominate. :D :D :D

I am just fortunate to live in a county slam full of Taft-Goldwater Republicans; where an ossified Republican establishment actually takes to the message like fertile dry ground takes to a good slow soaking rain.

Some elderly gentleman in the back of the room, whose only spoken words other than to vote aye or nay the whole night, when we closed up and went home actually said (no kidding), "...we got RON PAUL people in charge now, it's gonna be a GREAT year!"

My county conventions could not possibly have gone better. It was simply amazing! :D

Cowlesy
03-21-2009, 07:27 PM
Well done Gunny --- even the establishment, when faced with a message that harkens all the way back to the founding of our nation, can understand what is right.

Keep up the good fight!

ronpaulhawaii
03-21-2009, 07:28 PM
Nicely done.
And if we end up in camps, some remember escape and evasion. ;)
Though I hope to be on the outside making holes in the wire. :cool:

If we end up in camps it'll be

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/190/1165981639.jpg

Some on the inside, some on the outside...

:D

Cowlesy
03-21-2009, 07:28 PM
Thanks again, I could have gone another 2 minutes, and it probably would have been more effective had I spoke a little more slowly.

But in any case, I just want folks here on the RPF's to know that there really and seriously are 'our people' scattered randomly about the GOP establishment, hoping and praying for us Paulers to sweep in and change the way business is done.

There are, of course, also entrenched establishment mafias like Catawba County NC; which just got spanked HARD by the State GOP for shenanigans wherein they tried to shut us out of the process.

Their attempt did not go as planned. The State org (also an establishment mafia, but we forced their hand, because we control the largest cohesive voting block in the State GOP now) was forced to dissolve the committee of Catawba County, declare the County 'unorganized' according to the Plan of Order, and will be holding a do-over Convention where us Constitutionalists will utterly dominate. :D :D :D

I am just fortunate to live in a county slam full of Taft-Goldwater Republicans; where an ossified Republican establishment actually takes to the message like fertile dry ground takes to a good slow soaking rain.

Some elderly gentleman in the back of the room, whose only spoken words other than to vote aye or nay the whole night, when we closed up and went home actually said (no kidding), "...we got RON PAUL people in charge now, it's gonna be a GREAT year!"

My county conventions could not possibly have gone better. It was simply amazing! :D

It appears you're catching more flys with honey, than vinegar...no?

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 07:32 PM
That was great, Gunny. I think everyone in my county committee but the chair would vote for a resolution like this, too. September reorganization can't come soon enough.

Ours in NC are always Feb-June; it doesn't normally even occur to me that some folks might hold their organizational conventions that late in the year. If you have all that extra time, we could provide you with our experiences, and help you guys seriously dominate your county district and state orgs.

And I want to encourage EVERYONE within the GOP, and hell, in the Democrats too (although I am sure it would go over like a turd at a pool party there) to submit sovereignty resolutions. Grow a demand from the grassroots up to reassert our sovereignty, and work to install legislative protections at state level against Federal intrusions like RealID and weapons bans.

believe it or not, we have more power at the States assemblies to protect us against an anti-Constitutionalist Obama administration, than we will ever have at the Federal level.

THAT was something I have had struck home for me time and again behind this Ron Paul campaign.

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 07:43 PM
It appears you're catching more flys with honey, than vinegar...no?

Some of both. More honey than vinegar in my county, because my county welcomed us Paulers with open arms from day 1, and even asked us to find MORE Paulers and bring them in.

But places like Catawba county required a big-stick approach; and amazingly enough (because we have a really strong Ron Paul Delegates org from a STRONG convention effort in 2008) we Ron Paulers now have the largest /cohesive/ voting block in the state. So a soft word here, a veiled threat there, and suddenly the State-level entrenched establishment mafia (who HATED us Paulers, and did everything they could to deny us in 2008) starts singing and dancing to our tune.

So it isn't ALWAYS that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar, it's more about recognizing that in 'these' places you use honey, and in 'those' places you use a big f'ing hammer.

I cannot begin to describe for you my OWN shock, at making a thinly veiled threat to the tune of "...if you do not do so-and-so, then the Ron Paul delegates will vote thus-and-such..." and they may as well have snapped to like friggin embassy guard and said, "yes sir!"

Jeremy
03-21-2009, 07:48 PM
Sweet!

Anti Federalist
03-21-2009, 07:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgGU7hiPoV8

passed by acclimation of unanimous consent. Several people had to stand up and say how they have been long awaiting someone bold enough to do this kind of thing. the video contains my speech only. the side-panel contains the text of the resolution that was passed.

view, click, rate etc etc etc. ;-) this is my second video ever. Anther video of my speech running for 1st Vice Chairman will be up later; but it is more administrative and less exciting I think. :o

Nice work Gunny, nice work.

I wish I could have reported success in NH's HCR 6, it was forced out of committee only to be voted ITL by the full House.

(inexpedient to legislate - a NH government euphemism meaning "we punt", effectively killing the resolution, at least for this session):mad:

Anti Federalist
03-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Nicely done.
And if we end up in camps, some remember escape and evasion. ;)
Though I hope to be on the outside making holes in the wire. :cool:

I wish I could be so optimistic.

The way things are going, I reckon to be dust by the time that happens.

slacker921
03-21-2009, 07:59 PM
Gunny, IIRC Buncombe county also passed a similar resolution. How many other counties have joined in?

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 08:23 PM
Gunny, IIRC Buncombe county also passed a similar resolution. How many other counties have joined in?

I know of 7, but there are still more to come, and probably some I don't know about. And yes, I believe Buncombe was the first.

MozoVote
03-21-2009, 08:32 PM
North Carolina has 100 counties, the NCGOP is probably organized in 75 of them. But we only need a few counties in each of the 13 districts... maybe even just a few counties in half the districts... for this resolution to cause a gut check among the state resolution committee members.

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 08:33 PM
Nice work Gunny, nice work.

I wish I could have reported success in NH's HCR 6, it was forced out of committee only to be voted ITL by the full House.

(inexpedient to legislate - a NH government euphemism meaning "we punt", effectively killing the resolution, at least for this session):mad:

It is of course a lot more difficult to do from the state assembly than from party conventions, so you really had a much tougher job. We chose to open the push for this amongst the grassroots, so that maybe we can make most of the legislatures decision for them.

I reckon once NH'ers start facing gun bans they may scramble to pass it, so having it all ready to go for whenever THEY finally get ready to address it, it's not wasted work. The options are to have it before you need it, or to need it and then not have it. For gun people, the answer to that one is simple ;)

Texan4Life
03-21-2009, 08:39 PM
wow. youre quite younger than i thought gunny. i thought you were like 65 or something lolol great speech

lol me too.. not sure where I got that idea though.

Great speech gunny!

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 08:40 PM
Want to say something about Ron Paul being even more brilliant than we knew with this convention delegate strategy. Am starting to think the brokered convention plan of 2008 was a cover to just get crap-tons of delegates into the process, simply because he knows that the delegates write the future of the Party.

Have a lot more on that, but am on phone and in bed. Must zzZz for a busy morning. More commentary on the brilliance of this delegate process in AM

GunnyFreedom
03-21-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks Texan4life, Dripping Rain. Will comment in more detail in morning

Anti Federalist
03-21-2009, 09:12 PM
It is of course a lot more difficult to do from the state assembly than from party conventions, so you really had a much tougher job. We chose to open the push for this amongst the grassroots, so that maybe we can make most of the legislatures decision for them.

I reckon once NH'ers start facing gun bans they may scramble to pass it, so having it all ready to go for whenever THEY finally get ready to address it, it's not wasted work. The options are to have it before you need it, or to need it and then not have it. For gun people, the answer to that one is simple ;)

Our problem is that our southern flank is being overrun by MassHoles.

Much like the people in Oregon and Washington that are getting Californicated.

I have pushed for legislation that would prohibit anyone from voting on state or local issues until a five year residency requirement has been passed.

It actually might have worked, until a similar law in the lobster fishing industry was struck down by federal court.

So we are plagued by short sighted morons who, having fled the high tax, high regulation, high crime shithole that they created, are doing their best to recreate the same damn thing here.

tremendoustie
03-21-2009, 09:19 PM
Our problem is that our southern flank is being overrun by MassHoles.

Much like the people in Oregon and Washington that are getting Californicated.

I have pushed for legislation that would prohibit anyone from voting on state or local issues until a five year residency requirement has been passed.

It actually might have worked, until a similar law in the lobster fishing industry was struck down by federal court.

So we are plagued by short sighted morons who, having fled the high tax, high regulation, high crime shithole that they created, are doing their best to recreate the same damn thing here.

Do you think this tide can be reversed? Do you see a long term solution to this problem? Can liberty lovers realistically counteract this trend, based on the numbers available, and at some point, if liberty is increased, do you think the state would become unattractive to these statists?

Anti Federalist
03-21-2009, 09:28 PM
Do you think this tide can be reversed? Do you see a long term solution to this problem? Can liberty lovers realistically counteract this trend, based on the numbers available, and at some point, if liberty is increased, do you think the state would become unattractive to these statists?

Honestly...I don't know.

I'm hoping that the continuing and deepening economic "crisis" will, out of necessity, cut state services, (already "bare bones", thankfully) even further, making the state less attractive to the nanny staters.

The trend is already slowing to a certain degree, the influx into Maine, (a heavily socialist state, with the highest tax burden in the nation, as a percentage of median income) is increasing.

Every warm body helps counteracting this trend, especially since, if that is your reason for moving here you are much more likely to be active politically.

Larger upheavals and demographic shifts may occur as the economy continues to crash and burn.

He Who Pawns
03-21-2009, 09:40 PM
good stuff gunny. you look so clean cut that those GOP types can't dismiss you out of hand.

Scribbler de Stebbing
03-21-2009, 09:56 PM
Want to say something about Ron Paul being even more brilliant than we knew with this convention delegate strategy. Am starting to think the brokered convention plan of 2008 was a cover to just get crap-tons of delegates into the process, simply because he knows that the delegates write the future of the Party.

I like that thought. We'd had similar experiences in MN. Some welcoming, some fighting still, many of our people elected chairs of the local party units, etc. Some went back to the couch. But all in all, good. Forward movement.

One thing though, that video had a guy in a suit talking. Looked like a Republican. I thought we were going to see a video of you, Gunny, a crazy rEVOLutionary. Whoever that slick talker was, he did a pretty nice job. You should give a speech like that.

tremendoustie
03-21-2009, 09:58 PM
I like that thought. We'd had similar experiences in MN. Some welcoming, some fighting still, many of our people elected chairs of the local party units, etc. Some went back to the couch. But all in all, good. Forward movement.

One thing though, that video had a guy in a suit talking. Looked like a Republican. I thought we were going to see a video of you, Gunny, a crazy rEVOLutionary. Whoever that slick talker was, he did a pretty nice job. You should give a speech like that.

Well done, lol :D. I like your style of humor.

raiha
03-21-2009, 11:44 PM
Good one Gunny. You look alot tamer than i imagined. I expected a wild man.

JS4Pat
03-22-2009, 12:32 AM
Excellent job Gunny!

Can you copy and paste the text to RPF?

GunnyFreedom
03-22-2009, 06:58 AM
Our problem is that our southern flank is being overrun by MassHoles.

Much like the people in Oregon and Washington that are getting Californicated.

I have pushed for legislation that would prohibit anyone from voting on state or local issues until a five year residency requirement has been passed.

It actually might have worked, until a similar law in the lobster fishing industry was struck down by federal court.

So we are plagued by short sighted morons who, having fled the high tax, high regulation, high crime shithole that they created, are doing their best to recreate the same damn thing here.

I've heard that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. I suppose this makes the Massholes if not clinically, then at least definitively, insane. ;)

Though I'm guessing most of those massholes know the score, but in Massachusetts, the process has already taken place and they can find no advantage in it. Like a pyramid scheme, the only real advantage in authoritarian socialism is for those who get in on the ground floor. The Massholes figure that in NH they can get in on the ground floor and benefit themselves in ways they never could back home. :(

It's personal self-absorption writ legislatively. Sadly, we have an entire generation from 25 to 45 who are almost entirely self absorbed, whose universe ends, at the end of their grasp. I can only hope the up-and-coming generations are not quite so self absorbed. :(

GunnyFreedom
03-22-2009, 07:02 AM
good stuff gunny. you look so clean cut that those GOP types can't dismiss you out of hand.

Sadly, you do kinda have to look the part. Indeed, the victory would have been far more impressive had I gone in with a red mohawk, a dangly elephant earring, nose jewelry, and torn leather and denim with spikes and chains, and a fu-man-chu with 3 days growth on my neck and cheeks. But actual victory, I think, is more important that a shock and awe campaign. ;)

GunnyFreedom
03-22-2009, 07:15 AM
I like that thought. We'd had similar experiences in MN. Some welcoming, some fighting still, many of our people elected chairs of the local party units, etc. Some went back to the couch. But all in all, good. Forward movement.

One thing though, that video had a guy in a suit talking. Looked like a Republican. I thought we were going to see a video of you, Gunny, a crazy rEVOLutionary. Whoever that slick talker was, he did a pretty nice job. You should give a speech like that.

LOL, does this fit the bill a little bit better:

http://photos-d.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2596/225/13/650733273/n650733273_2183811_6806308.jpg

Every one of us that gets elected, even to something like a "precinct co vice chair" will make a profound impact on the process.

Seriously, I am not exaggerating when I say that the general public is full of people who believe that the Constitution ought to be honored and obeyed. Thus, when we can actually approach the electorate under the auspices of an official GOP org, it becomes a LOT easier to recruit Constitutionalist activists.

Knock-knock "Hello, I am your Republican Party precinct chairman, and I've come to you today because we are facing a critical time in history and we need your help. I ran for precinct chair, and won, because I believe that neither political party has represented us, or honored the Constitution, for as long as I can remember. I was elected to GOP Precinct Chairman in order to change the way we do business, but I need your help to restore honor and respect for the Constitution back to local, state, and federal government. Please get involved. Come to our monthly county meetings, attend the annual convention cycles, and vote in the primaries, but most important of all, we need to make our voices heard in the process..."

In the above, "I am your Republican Party precinct chairman" carries a heckuvalot more weight than "I am a disaffected Ron Paul supporter" :D :D

But what really raises my ire, are the RP-ers who returned to full outright apathy. "Went back to the couch" as you put it. I can't count how many times we have missed crucial votes by 1, 2, or 3 votes, all the while I am hearing 15, 20 people telling me how they can't attend because they have to stay home and clip their toenails. :mad:

GunnyFreedom
03-22-2009, 07:33 AM
Good one Gunny. You look alot tamer than i imagined. I expected a wild man.

Oh, I toned down the speech some; and I didn't even know I was giving this speech until 72 hours before the event. Likewise the other one I haven't uploaded yet. That's why I ended up having to read them instead of delivering them normally. If it had only been 1 speech in 72 hours I could have memorized it, but two? heh

I save my wildness for places where it counts:

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs022.snc1/2646_66396053273_650733273_2165032_7064320_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2596/225/13/650733273/n650733273_2249679_8263414.jpg

Most of my really wildness isn't in pictures - like hanging off bridges to hang banners, breaking into DOT compounds to recover Ron Paul signs...

GunnyFreedom
03-22-2009, 07:38 AM
Excellent job Gunny!

Can you copy and paste the text to RPF?

the Speech:


State Sovereignty Resolution Speech

00:00

On a cold December in 1791, fresh from the War for Independence and a Constitutional Convention, our founders ratified as the last Amendment to the Bill of Rights, the following:

Those "...powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Now, since 1868, and especially since 1913, we have seen a federal power grab the likes of which our founders could scarcely imagine. In the last 20 years, the Federal government has grown in size and scope at an astonishing rate, and the next four years may be even worse than the whole history of our Republic.

Thankfully, we still have the Constitution and the 10th Amendment as the supreme law of the land. Though it remains largely forgotten and mostly dishonored in the halls of Washington DC, We the people of the Franklin County Republican Party still remember, and still honor the Constitution and it's original intent.

Just the other day, I saw Congress live on the Hill, calling for the power to tax named individuals to 100%! Is that a power we really want to give the President?

The current President wants to ban the 1st Amendment through something called "Fairness Doctrine," the 2nd Amendment through weapons and ammunition bans, the 4th Amendment through the expansion of warrentless domestic wiretapping, and the 9th, 10th, and 13th Amendments through compulsory federal service programs. We can NOT allow this to stand!

<->

Therefore, let's come together, as a community, as a County and a State party; to serve notice to the Federal Government, and specifically to the President, that we will not stand silently by and allow further encroachment against those powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution. That we will not stand idle while the foundation of our Constitutional Republic is eroded from beneath us.

Let's join Republican Senator Neil Hunt, and Guilford, Watauga, Buncombe, and Wake Counties, in supporting a binding resolution in the State House.

<->

If our Constitutional Republic is to survive and prosper, it will be through our efforts to restore the respect and obedience of the US and NC Constitutions which our state and nation knew when we first became great and prosperous.

Let us therefore resolve, that those we have elected as our representatives to power stand by not only the letter of the law, but also the spirit; that being those which are the fundamental principles of the American Republic. Among these are the concept that the several States of these United States, are sovereign in their own right, and furthermore her people, as preserved by the 9th and the 10th Amendments.

Towards that end, I ask you, ladies and gentlemen of the Franklin County Republican Party, to join me in resolving to re-assert the sovereignty of North Carolina, according to the US Constitution.

Thank you, and God bless America!

02:45
and the Resolution itself:


WHEREAS, the Ninth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States prohibits the federal government from abusing those rights of American people which have not been enumerated in the Constitution or Bill of Rights; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being specifically that granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and

WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Ninth and Tenth Amendments means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states, and of the people respectively; and

WHEREAS, today, in 2009, the states and the people are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and

WHEREAS, many powers assumed by the federal government and federal mandates are directly in violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States; now, therefore,

SO BE IT RESOLVED, BY THE FRANKLIN COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA,

IN ACCORD, that we hereby affirm North Carolina and her citizen's sovereignty under the Ninth and the Tenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. We also demand that the federal government halt and reverse its practice of assuming powers and of imposing mandates upon the states for purposes not enumerated by the Constitution of the United States.

PS - I still want to talk about the brilliance of Ron Paul using the cover of a highly unlikely brokered convention plan, to motivate participation in the delegates/convention process in order to have US re-write the future of the GOP altogether. It's actually WORKING here in NC, although incrementally.

But I need to run to Henderson right now to conflab with the new Vance County GOP Chairman (one of us!!!!! :D :D :D) about setting up this resolution for the 2nd District convention.

LittleLightShining
03-22-2009, 08:17 AM
Ours in NC are always Feb-June; it doesn't normally even occur to me that some folks might hold their organizational conventions that late in the year. If you have all that extra time, we could provide you with our experiences, and help you guys seriously dominate your county district and state orgs.

And I want to encourage EVERYONE within the GOP, and hell, in the Democrats too (although I am sure it would go over like a turd at a pool party there) to submit sovereignty resolutions. Grow a demand from the grassroots up to reassert our sovereignty, and work to install legislative protections at state level against Federal intrusions like RealID and weapons bans.

believe it or not, we have more power at the States assemblies to protect us against an anti-Constitutionalist Obama administration, than we will ever have at the Federal level.

THAT was something I have had struck home for me time and again behind this Ron Paul campaign.I was appointed Finance chair about a month ago. We're having our first real fundraiser in years this week and it is amazing to me how many people have suggested that I go after the county chair position. I intend to do so and based on the core group of members I have no doubt that I have a great chance of getting the position. Though I have been somewhat critical at times of the leadership of the state committee here I must say that they have been very welcoming to Ron Paul Republicans.

Matt Collins
03-22-2009, 10:18 PM
GUNNY -


Have you seen this????
http://www.libertyresolutions.com/