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Eric21ND
03-21-2009, 09:02 AM
Maher brings up the FEMA camps @ 3:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9hRvjOzKbs

So how does it feel Glenn to be labeled a "terrorist" now? :rolleyes:

TruthisTreason
03-21-2009, 09:09 AM
This is painful-liberal TV :(

sailor
03-21-2009, 09:11 AM
What a sociopathic show.

sailor
03-21-2009, 09:14 AM
Geeez! The snobbery! :eek:

Eric21ND
03-21-2009, 09:21 AM
I really liked Bill Maher and his HBO show, but now its just going off the deep end.

They never have any credible conservative/libertarian on it.

Peter Schiff, Thomas DiLorenzo, John Stossel, Walter Williams, Bruce Fein, Thomas Woods...umm hello!

pcosmar
03-21-2009, 09:24 AM
It might be good.
For those of you that were asleep or small children when OKC happened, it might be good to revisit those events.
Take a close look at the "investigation", re-watch the news coverage at the time and see if the SPIN looks familiar.

All is not as it appears.

klamath
03-21-2009, 09:36 AM
I really liked Bill Maher and his HBO show, but now its just going off the deep end.

They never have any credible conservative/libertarian on it.

Peter Schiff, Thomas DiLorenzo, John Stossel, Walter Williams, Bruce Fein, Thomas Woods...umm hello!

The only reason Bill Maher had RP on during he campaign was because RP was attacking Republicans and it served his purpose. Now he wouldn't even think about having anyone on that might be critical of Obama.

ItsTime
03-21-2009, 09:36 AM
It might be good.
For those of you that were asleep or small children when OKC happened, it might be good to revisit those events.
Take a close look at the "investigation", re-watch the news coverage at the time and see if the SPIN looks familiar.

All is not as it appears.

I was young when that happened and none of it made sense then. I did not even know there was a "conspiracy theory" about OKC until a few months ago! But after listening to a retired army explosive expert I am pretty much convinced there is a lot more to the official story than told.

I always thought there was no way he could blow up the whole building with so little explosive.

There is a youtube or google vid of the army dudes speach somewhere I cant find it in my bookmarks right now.

MRoCkEd
03-21-2009, 09:39 AM
The only reason Bill Maher had RP on during he campaign was because RP was attacking Republicans and it served his purpose. Now he wouldn't even think about having anyone on that might be critical of Obama.
He had him on the first episode this season.

Lovecraftian4Paul
03-21-2009, 09:41 AM
Maher's degeneration is just sad. He was always a big liberal, but he used to be more open minded toward third parties and other alternatives when he had his old "Politically Incorrect" show. I believe he even supported Nader's third party bid in 2000. But by '04, it was back to the same old same old, Maher was up there with Michael Moore begging Nader and other third party candidates to just drop out to help the Democrats against that mean Mr. Bush.

He Who Pawns
03-21-2009, 09:45 AM
I agree that Maher has not had many credible libertarians on. He did have RP, but on his panel, a serious opposition is lacking. I emailed them the other pointing this out, and asking that they have Schiff or Woods on.

klamath
03-21-2009, 09:47 AM
He had him on the first episode this season.

Ok. My wrong. I guess that is what comes from not watching TV at all except select Utube Clips:D

pcosmar
03-21-2009, 09:48 AM
I was young when that happened and none of it made sense then. I did not even know there was a "conspiracy theory" about OKC until a few months ago! But after listening to a retired army explosive expert I am pretty much convinced there is a lot more to the official story than told.

I always thought there was no way he could blow up the whole building with so little explosive.

There is a youtube or google vid of the army dudes speach somewhere I cant find it in my bookmarks right now.

Yup there were several explosions and other bombs recovered. The truck bomb was just for show.
Tim McVeigh was no mastermind. And the investigation into the others was dropped.
He was never in the militia,( that was entirely fabricated), but the focus was on the Patriot Movement ( the Freedom movement of the day) and Militias.

Do some research, that rabbit hole is deep and connected to this one.

donnay
03-21-2009, 09:50 AM
It might be good.
For those of you that were asleep or small children when OKC happened, it might be good to revisit those events.
Take a close look at the "investigation", re-watch the news coverage at the time and see if the SPIN looks familiar.

All is not as it appears.


A grand illusion!

MsDoodahs
03-21-2009, 09:52 AM
The only reason Bill Maher had RP on during he campaign was because RP was attacking Republicans and it served his purpose. Now he wouldn't even think about having anyone on that might be critical of Obama.

Exactly. That's why I can't watch him.

I feel the same about Stewart and Colbert, too...can't watch them now that they're exposed as yes men...

Maverick
03-21-2009, 09:54 AM
Did you see them criticizing the Fed?

They said something like "the Fed has printed 2 trillion out of thin air and we don't know where the money is going."

This is a good thing, at least.

Eric21ND
03-21-2009, 10:14 AM
He had him on the first episode this season.
Yeah technically he was the first guest Bill spoke to. I'd much prefer Ron on the panel for the full hour though.

LandonCook
03-21-2009, 10:28 AM
I really liked Bill Maher and his HBO show, but now its just going off the deep end.

They never have any credible conservative/libertarian on it.

Peter Schiff, Thomas DiLorenzo, John Stossel, Walter Williams, Bruce Fein, Thomas Woods...umm hello!

I feel the same way. The guy they had on first makes me sick... they all do!

MRoCkEd
03-21-2009, 10:32 AM
Peter Schiff would intellectually rape him.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
03-21-2009, 10:47 AM
interesting how none of these guys see a problem with printing money. Only one guy was concerned at all, but only because they might not spend it right.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
03-21-2009, 10:49 AM
Peter Schiff would intellectually rape him.

That would be a really awkward argument. It would end up just like when Michael Scheuer was on there. Bill Maher would find himself in contradiction with himself, and the audience would be confused and have no idea what they should be clapping for.

silverhawks
03-21-2009, 10:56 AM
interesting how none of these guys see a problem with printing money. Only one guy was concerned at all, but only because they might not spend it right.

That was my take on it. Obviously they missed economics 101 when the class covered monetary policy, inflation and its effects on a currency's value.

How ANYONE can be approving of trillions of government spending during the worst period of recession in our time is mind-boggling! Hyperinflation here we come! Though of course when the USA turns into the Weimar Republic of Zimbabwe, pundits and politicians will still be finger-pointing at each other over their burning barrels of cash:

"He did it!"
"No, he did it!"

JeNNiF00F00
03-21-2009, 11:02 AM
That was my take on it. Obviously they missed economics 101 when the class covered monetary policy, inflation and its effects on a currency's value.

How ANYONE can be approving of trillions of government spending during the worst period of recession in our time is mind-boggling! Hyperinflation here we come! Though of course when the USA turns into the Weimar Republic of Zimbabwe, pundits and politicians will still be finger-pointing at each other over their burning barrels of cash:

"He did it!"
"No, he did it!"

Its already happening amongst the people. Have you seen the idiots in Digg? And, Obama has already pointed the finger at Bush for this mess we are in.

sailor
03-21-2009, 12:11 PM
BTW, why are all these TV hosts in America comedians? Huh? What is that all about??

pcosmar
03-21-2009, 12:13 PM
BTW, why are all these TV hosts in America comedians? Huh? What is that all about??

Because "news coverage" is a joke. :(

youngbuck
03-21-2009, 12:37 PM
Maher is a f'n POS, what's new? I don't know why he got so popular w/ supposed "freedom lovers" to begin with. Not for a second did I see anything other than a slimy democrap collectivist in that guy.

Athan
03-21-2009, 12:54 PM
Oh the irony!

Theocrat
03-21-2009, 02:12 PM
Enough said.

jmlfod87
03-21-2009, 02:46 PM
Bernie Sanders + Bill Maher + Keith Olbermann = The reincarnation of Vladimir Lenin.

raiha
03-21-2009, 05:39 PM
When i was watching Beck waving his pitchfork about and again, bringing on Thomas Paine, i thought "Yikes, he's inciting revolution publically." He has probably been advised by lawyers how far he can actually go but Maher may have seen what I saw and thought that. A comparison to McVeigh is a bit much but angry peasants maybe. Haven't watched it yet though. Thanks for posting.

tremendoustie
03-21-2009, 05:57 PM
Bernie Sanders + Bill Maher + Keith Olbermann = The reincarnation of Vladimir Lenin.

Yes, but after a lobotomy.

kathy88
03-21-2009, 05:58 PM
Maher scares me, but I watch anyway. It's like rubbernecking at an acident.

tremendoustie
03-21-2009, 05:58 PM
Maher scares me, but I watch anyway. It's like rubbernecking at an acident.

I feel like I'm in the middle of a massive pileup almost every day ... no need to search them out.

BillyDkid
03-21-2009, 06:43 PM
Maher's degeneration is just sad. He was always a big liberal, but he used to be more open minded toward third parties and other alternatives when he had his old "Politically Incorrect" show. I believe he even supported Nader's third party bid in 2000. But by '04, it was back to the same old same old, Maher was up there with Michael Moore begging Nader and other third party candidates to just drop out to help the Democrats against that mean Mr. Bush.

Bill talks about being a libertarian while at the same time endorsing expansive government and mocking those who complain about "big government". What left leaning "libertarians" like Bill don't get is that government is, first and foremost, force. It seems everybody hates "big government" unless it is enforcing their agenda. Now, for the record, I think those people who have controlled and gamed the system, those who have been in position to exploit the system at the expense of the rest of us, the wall street guys with government connections, the military contractors and the central bankers and the like who use their influence over government to feed at the public trough need to be stopped.

It is a vastly corrupt system where certain groups of people have used their proximity to power and decision making to bilk the rest of us taxpayers. This is not to be confused with those who have become wealthy through their own efforts and brilliance. I don't want to see class warfare and I don't think we should punish the rich for merely being rich, but we have a system where money equals influence and that influence equals more money and has resulted in a vast transfer of real wealth from the middle class to those at the very top and grotesque disparity of wealth in this country.

I want a country where any of us could get rich through our efforts, but the reality is only the tiniest miniscule percentage of us will ever get rich however hard we try. It does happen, but statistically speaking, it's virtually impossible. We created something like 130 billionaire over the past ten or fifteen years. Virtually all of them were multimillionaires to start with. I guess the point is that the game is rigged and the table is tilted and government intervention is responsible for this. Something Bill Maher doesn't grasp. It will always be that way as long as government has its fingers in the economy and the power to alter the playing field. All the regulations and complications involved in forming profitable enterprises are put there to stifle competition and as barriers to entry. Government will always use its power to take care of its friends and the government will never be a friend to ordinary people.

devil21
03-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Maher scares me, but I watch anyway. It's like rubbernecking at an acident.

I watch now mostly out of sheer habit and that's starting to be questioned. His show has taken a big swing toward full on socialist cheerleading this season. Bernie Sanders *IS* a registered Socialist yet Bill ignored that entirely on Friday! I did lose a lot of respect for Bill when I saw Religulous. His mocking of every religion except Judaism opened my eyes that he's not as even-handed as he has tried to appear before. I'd love to see him put just ONE Paul supporter on his panel, hell even one of us "commoners" and see how it goes. The carnage would be epic.

buck000
03-21-2009, 10:13 PM
I generally enjoy Maher, but he does seem to have gone overboard this season.

From his Mar 6 rant:


You know, the stimulus package was attacked as "typical tax-and-spend," you know, like repairing bridges is left-wing stuff. "Ooh, there the liberals go again, always wanting to get across the river."

Folks, the people are the government. The first responders who put out your fires? That's your government. The ranger who shoos pedophiles out of the park restroom. The postman who delivers your porn. I mean, how stupid is it when people say, "Oh, yeah, that's all we need, the federal government telling Detroit how to make cars, or Wells Fargo how to run a bank. You want them to look like the post office?" Yeah, I say.

You mean the place that takes a note in my hand in L.A. on Monday and gives it to my sisters in New Jersey on Wednesday for 42 cents? Well, let me be the first to say, I would be thrilled if America's health care system was anywhere near as functional as the post office.

Truth is, recent years have made me much more wary of government doing the opposite, of stepping aside and letting unregulated, private enterprise run things is plainly too greedy to trust with, like Wall Street, like rebuilding Iraq, like the way Republicans always frame the health care debate by saying, "Health care decisions should be made by doctors and patients, not government bureaucrats," leaving out the fact that health decisions aren't made by doctors, patients or bureaucrats. They're made by insurance companies.


Interesting rationale.

This latest episode was kind of mind-boggling to me. Maher makes a reasonable point about the top tax rate going up only 3%, but then one of his panel remarks about how much she appreciated Pelosi slapping a 90% tax on those evil AIG execs. Maher ranted about Glenn Beck's wild ravings and violent tendencies (although Beck actually asked when people were going to peacefuly demonstrate against runaway govt at 6:09 in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LajuETlDmA)), but then seems less than worried about his own calling for violence against the AIG execs (and the AIG CEO talked about death threats to those execs that he received in emails). And Senator Bernie Sanders...yeesh. While they were talking that "people can't be taking Glenn Beck seriously," Sanders sternly intones, "oh, you should see the emails I'm getting...they are." Erm, I'd be willing to bet that those emails are from what he would call his constituents...!

Andrew Ross Sorkin of the NYT, surprisingly, wanted to get into some of the meat of the economic issue, but seemed to wind up giving up and piling on.

Oh, well, I still enjoy Stewart. Maybe he can get the author of Meltdown (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/19/politics/otherpeoplesmoney/main4875433.shtml) to sit down with him. Edit: just found this TDS guest suggestion thread (http://forum.thedailyshow.com/tds/board/message?board.id=guest-suggestions&thread.id=1083); feel free to add to it. ;)

It is sad that we depend on comedy shows to deliver more pithy news than the real journalists. :(

dr. hfn
03-21-2009, 10:24 PM
For every Maher theres an O'Reilly...all idiots

akihabro
03-21-2009, 11:50 PM
This is exactly what the rest of the media is doing. Marginalizing. Beck does got a little far with FEMA camps as well as Alex Jones. They seem to compare us to gun clinging, bible thumping terrorists.
We just want this government to follow the 220 year old rules it made for itself. I like how Bernie Sanders says Fox is diverting peoples attention from important issues. They are the ones that seem to criticize what is going wrong. God forbid any liberal media would point out how unethical constitutional usurpation or fast tracking legislation is.
I haven't been watching that long and did hear they totally supported Bush.

silverhawks
03-22-2009, 02:09 AM
I have had issues with Beck's emotional displays...makes me think he's less than sincere.

And then he does something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWbKKydgj_o

Very confusing delivery - part of it screams that he's tapping into general anger for a ratings boost, the other part that he is actually trying (badly) to detail the economic clusterf**k so that average Joes can understand it.

Master
03-22-2009, 03:18 AM
I have had issues with Beck's emotional displays...makes me think he's less than sincere.

And then he does something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWbKKydgj_o

Very confusing delivery - part of it screams that he's tapping into general anger for a ratings boost, the other part that he is actually trying (badly) to detail the economic clusterf**k so that average Joes can understand it.

I like his Barney Frank impression loool