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RonPaulVolunteer
03-20-2009, 10:35 PM
Cue the soundtrack from the twilight zone...

Um, kinda weird to say this. All my life I have been able to make predictions. Some in the Church have called me Prophetic. Whatever. I do know that I have shared things with people all my life and they have very often turned out exactly as I said they would, but usually I had no idea at the time that I was making a prediction, and over time I have paid more attention to the voices in my head muahahahhaha.... I have 2 friends, Daniel and Darren, (hi!!) that have suggested multiple times that I start making real predictions, as in, recording them, video etc, and seeing what happens. Kinda like Gerald Celente. So... I say all this only because I have no evidence of WHY I am about to tell you this little snippet (I predict a big anti-climax coming) :D other than another one of these feelings I get inside about things. So enough of this...

What I am am seeing/feeling is this.

The elite have started a very purposeful campaign to create a civil war in the US. And we, the freedom movement, are the primary target. The MIAC is part of this, but we're going to see this get a lot more blatant. The idea is to cause a certain sector of society to snap, and think "well screw you, you want a war, we'll give you a war then...". The problem with that is, I feel this is precisely what they want. They will cause it to happen, because it's somehow a part of the overall agenda, and without it, they can't bring their full agenda to fruition. I know that sounds counterproductive, but don't worry, it makes no sense to me neither.

Now perhaps some of you will be like, "wake up RPV, we can all see that", and in that case I'll just go back to building my YAL chapter :) but perhaps some don't see it this way, and I can give you some food for thought. If you are getting angry at "them" and have been thinking of any kind of violent action, please don't, you'll just be playing into their hands and destroying all our hard work to date. And don't lie, I know a lot of you have been thinking that way LOL... :D

So again, a civil war is precisely what they want, and they will try harder and harder to get it. Perhaps others smarter than I can explain WHY they would want this, WHAT it would achieve etc... If we as a movement are to be successful, we must take a leaf from Ghandi's playbook, and throw flowers not bombs. Someone else can insert that well-known graphic below... Only through peaceful means can we thwart the NWO and take back our national sovereignty, and, we bloody well will.

Anyway, that's all for now... :)

ForLiberty-RonPaul
03-20-2009, 10:38 PM
you're not crazy and I feel and see exactly the same thing. To understand why they'd want a civil war we have to look back at the first one we had. A lot of answers lay there.

pcosmar
03-20-2009, 10:43 PM
I don't think you have to be prophetic, just aware.
I also don't think that civil war is exactly what they want, but unrest and enough violence to declare Martial Law.
They want to eliminate the last remnants of the Constitution and make way for the NWO.
They do seem to be pushing things that way.
Provoking, prodding and inciting it through both action and the MSM. :(

RonPaulVolunteer
03-20-2009, 10:45 PM
I also don't think that civil war is exactly what they want, but unrest and enough violence to declare Martial Law.(

No, I see a full blown civil war as a requisite for their agenda. Martial law is nothing. There's something bigger going on here.

Lord Xar
03-20-2009, 10:50 PM
The Why is very easy to see.

Create the "evil" opposition. This does a couple things..

1. Creates the "enemy"
2. Creates stigma associated with being the enemy
3. Destroy the enemy (see terrorist ie.. iraq etc..)
4. Grow govt and control for "americans" own protection
5. the benevolent govt will be citizens mommy and daddy.
6. any question of the mother/father will not be tolerated

I don't think what you predict is in the near future. We are too small in number and not upset enough. I believe that a race war will precipitate things. Urban unrest will become common, then the frustration will flow onto racial lines -

pcosmar
03-20-2009, 10:51 PM
No, I see a full blown civil war as a requisite for their agenda. Martial law is nothing. There's something bigger going on here.

They may get that, but I'm not sure they want it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae74oMMQ4ak

Athan
03-20-2009, 11:48 PM
Yup. They want the movement to get physical because we know this has everything to do with the financial.
We need to reach out to our own members to make them aware not to play their little games.

THEY are in the financial hole. We are not.

dr. hfn
03-21-2009, 01:50 AM
we need a massive alliance/coalition of liberty and freedom organizations and people! We must take over the Glenn beck crowd!

Smoke the Liberty Tree
03-21-2009, 02:06 AM
if your a "prophet" and this is coming, what difference does it matter what we do if it is going to happen anyways ?

I personally think there are outside factors that play into human life that we cannot see or control. I think we have control over our own destinies but i believe certain things are bound to happen to progress the human race to avoid extinction. I dont really believe in the mayan predictions, but if what you said is coming than that is just one more example of how the mayans got it right. Remember, its the "end of times" but the calendar keeps going ;).

FreeMama
03-21-2009, 02:17 AM
this really should be an educational battle and not a physical one :(

FreeMama
03-21-2009, 02:49 AM
Oh. . . and I came across this http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2009/0313.html

jrich4rpaul
03-21-2009, 05:10 AM
I also don't think that civil war is exactly what they want, but unrest and enough violence to declare Martial Law.


Civil war would be step 1, martial law would be step 2 to take care of the survivors. It's less work for them that way.

FindLiberty
03-21-2009, 05:25 AM
this really should be an educational battle and not a physical one :(

+1776

RonPaulCentral
03-21-2009, 05:50 AM
I think there is a good chance of a civil war but I really don't think they want one.

Here in the United States we have a few things that are not common in other places:

1) We have a VERY VERY well armed population.
2) The size of our ENTIRE military is VERY SMALL compared to our population.
3) The size of our entire domestic police force is very small.
4) We have a very large and vast amount of land. Controlling it all would be impossible.
5) Once a civil war was started it would be impossible to end without the people wanting to end it. By this I mean the government, martial law or not, would be helpless to lay control into place. We have order in this country ONLY BECAUSE the population willingly gives it.
6) As soon as war broke out here countries all over the world would take advantage of the weekness. This is another reason the military could not just be "recalled".

No... I would say they do NOT want a civil war. As a matter of fact I think the endless bailouts and supply of money is to that end.

For example.... let GM fall. I think that would be one of the quickest ways to kick something off. Think of all those people no longer having jobs.... and all the people that receive pension payments that just "end" after many years of work. The entire state of MI would uprise.

Now... I do believe there will be a civil war and the republic will be returned to the status it should be.. I think this will come due to massive hyperinflation and supply failures. Just MY prediction. :D

phill4paul
03-21-2009, 08:40 AM
The truth is that if they wish to create an incident involving violence to discredit the peaceful movement they will simply manufacture it.

Remember the news article of the weapons cache that explicitly highlighted an "End the Fed" bumper sticker? A few more newscasts or perhaps a forced shoot-out with any entity (criminal, drug dealer, etc.), then the slapping of a Ron Paul bumper sticker on the back of a vehicle, and saying "see there. we are justified".

If they wish to create civil unrest they have the means to do it. Regardless of our peaceful intentions.

RonPaulVolunteer
03-25-2009, 05:16 PM
Bump for those that did not see this...

A. Havnes
03-25-2009, 08:51 PM
Someone my mom knows says that a friend of her's is in the army and that they are preparing for martial law. I'm not sure how true this is, but it's frightening! Anyone else know any military men or women who are training for martial law?

tremendoustie
03-25-2009, 08:59 PM
+1 for no violence.

Let's do like ghandi and MLK. Let's make it so that everyone can see their evil -- then they will have nowhere to hide.

Smoke the Liberty Tree
03-25-2009, 09:02 PM
Someone my mom knows says that a friend of her's is in the army and that they are preparing for martial law. I'm not sure how true this is, but it's frightening! Anyone else know any military men or women who are training for martial law?

This is nothing entirely new. Training for martial law has been a part of military training when it comes to wars in which we have to occupy a country. you have to know how to do it when you are occupying a country (ex. Iraq). Just because they are doing the training does not mean it is meant for martial law in OUR COUNTRY. It is somewhat of a leap to jump to that conclusion without acknowledging that if it were for our country, dont you think it would have leaked out by now? i mean come on, really ? I doubt the entire military could be in on some martial law conspiracy and it would not leak out. Just non-sense.

tremendoustie
03-25-2009, 09:12 PM
This is nothing entirely new. Training for martial law has been a part of military training when it comes to wars in which we have to occupy a country. you have to know how to do it when you are occupying a country (ex. Iraq). Just because they are doing the training does not mean it is meant for martial law in OUR COUNTRY. It is somewhat of a leap to jump to that conclusion without acknowledging that if it were for our country, dont you think it would have leaked out by now? i mean come on, really ? I doubt the entire military could be in on some martial law conspiracy and it would not leak out. Just non-sense.

Exactly.

sevin
03-25-2009, 09:28 PM
On the other hand, maybe they want to convince us not to "play into their hands" so we'll be easy to conquer.

Original_Intent
03-25-2009, 09:41 PM
On the other hand, maybe they want to convince us not to "play into their hands" so we'll be easy to conquer.

It's the catch-22. If we don't eventually say enough is enough and we mean it (or else bloodshed) they can just keep incrementally taking our freedoms. On the other hand, they may just be trying to force our hand so they have an excuse to round us up. It is a tough call to make. I hope we all know who we can depend on in our neighborhoods in tough times.

hillbilly123069
03-26-2009, 12:03 AM
And the Beast waged war with the Saints

A. Havnes
03-26-2009, 11:37 AM
This is nothing entirely new. Training for martial law has been a part of military training when it comes to wars in which we have to occupy a country. you have to know how to do it when you are occupying a country (ex. Iraq). Just because they are doing the training does not mean it is meant for martial law in OUR COUNTRY. It is somewhat of a leap to jump to that conclusion without acknowledging that if it were for our country, dont you think it would have leaked out by now? i mean come on, really ? I doubt the entire military could be in on some martial law conspiracy and it would not leak out. Just non-sense.

Ah, I see.

Xenophage
03-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Cue the soundtrack from the twilight zone...

Um, kinda weird to say this. All my life I have been able to make predictions. Some in the Church have called me Prophetic. Whatever. I do know that I have shared things with people all my life and they have very often turned out exactly as I said they would, but usually I had no idea at the time that I was making a prediction, and over time I have paid more attention to the voices in my head muahahahhaha.... I have 2 friends, Daniel and Darren, (hi!!) that have suggested multiple times that I start making real predictions, as in, recording them, video etc, and seeing what happens. Kinda like Gerald Celente. So... I say all this only because I have no evidence of WHY I am about to tell you this little snippet (I predict a big anti-climax coming) :D other than another one of these feelings I get inside about things. So enough of this...

What I am am seeing/feeling is this.

The elite have started a very purposeful campaign to create a civil war in the US. And we, the freedom movement, are the primary target. The MIAC is part of this, but we're going to see this get a lot more blatant. The idea is to cause a certain sector of society to snap, and think "well screw you, you want a war, we'll give you a war then...". The problem with that is, I feel this is precisely what they want. They will cause it to happen, because it's somehow a part of the overall agenda, and without it, they can't bring their full agenda to fruition. I know that sounds counterproductive, but don't worry, it makes no sense to me neither.

Now perhaps some of you will be like, "wake up RPV, we can all see that", and in that case I'll just go back to building my YAL chapter :) but perhaps some don't see it this way, and I can give you some food for thought. If you are getting angry at "them" and have been thinking of any kind of violent action, please don't, you'll just be playing into their hands and destroying all our hard work to date. And don't lie, I know a lot of you have been thinking that way LOL... :D

So again, a civil war is precisely what they want, and they will try harder and harder to get it. Perhaps others smarter than I can explain WHY they would want this, WHAT it would achieve etc... If we as a movement are to be successful, we must take a leaf from Ghandi's playbook, and throw flowers not bombs. Someone else can insert that well-known graphic below... Only through peaceful means can we thwart the NWO and take back our national sovereignty, and, we bloody well will.

Anyway, that's all for now... :)

Hey kid, you're not clairvoyant. If you don't require proof of the things you believe, then why are you here? Think for yourself.

decatren
03-26-2009, 11:42 AM
1917 revolution led by lenin was to overthrow "evil" capitalists. Their rhetoric at that time was that they would create a new world and those who were nothing would become everything. ofcourse that revolution did not happen over night. too many parallels.

acptulsa
03-26-2009, 11:48 AM
+1 for no violence.

Let's do like ghandi and MLK. Let's make it so that everyone can see their evil -- then they will have nowhere to hide.

+2

Thing is, here's this 9/11 FFO and all kinds of information has leaked, but still many people refuse to see. So, we obviously had better make that evil clear as a bell, and do it sooner rather than later.

Tricky business. We could try using the Gulf of Tonkin as a prime example, but so many people's eyes roll back in their heads when you talk about stuff from forty-five plus years ago. Damn I wish we could get ahold of the Ultimate 9/11 Smoking Gun!

RonPaulVolunteer
03-26-2009, 12:13 PM
Damn I wish we could get ahold of the Ultimate 9/11 Smoking Gun!

There are MANY found by Richard Gage, but it makes no difference...

mediahasyou
03-26-2009, 04:53 PM
I see the Elites doing something more along the lines of what the Nazis did.

They will call a small group an enemy. This will likely be Mexicans. Mexicans will be sent to concentration camps because if we send them back to Mexico they will come back to the US. This will happen after a terrorist attack by someone who crossed the border.

Mexicans will be in concentration camps. US will go to war with Mexico over the border problem.

This will happen after they pass all their socialism agenda during this depression. They will pass more socialism and fascism because of the "Mexican problem".


That was just a guess at the future. I don't have any special powers :P