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Cowlesy
03-17-2009, 06:23 PM
I have some old letters from my ancestors who lived in the 19th century, and I am always amazed by the precise prose they left behind for people like me to read.

Thomas Jefferson must have corresponded daily with friends and colleagues. We always like to quote things he says, but how many of us have actually spent time to review an actual scan of one of his letters? He was a masterful writer.

Some are more clear than others, probably due to his age and hand at any given time.

I really liked this one.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mtj1&fileName=mtj1page008.db&recNum=1064

My favorite parts were his assertions for the necessity of a free press, freedom of religion, no suspension of habeas corpus and no standing armies. These are things we always speak about, point back to them, but I believe few of us have actually read the words they literally penned.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mtj1&fileName=mtj1page008.db&recNum=1064

My favorite quote:


"I had rather be shut up in a very modest cottage with my books, my family and a few old friends, dining on simple bacon, and letting the world roll on as it liked, than to occupy the most splendid post, which any human power can give."

Hat tip to Jay Nevin's liberty-click (http://www.nayjevin.com/libertyclick/index.html) for providing the link to me.


Also, if you actually read a doc, they are sometimes a few pages long (also you can zoom-in by clicking on the document, which I needed to do). To go to the next page, hit the "next image" button.

Cowlesy
03-18-2009, 07:40 AM
// bumping my own thread because i'm a mod

Truth Warrior
03-18-2009, 08:07 AM
// bumping my own thread because i'm a mod Under the "Guidelines", you only get ONE more bump. ;) :p

I've read and enjoyed more than a few of TJ's letters. ;) :)

http://wiki.monticello.org/ (http://wiki.monticello.org/)

SimpleName
03-18-2009, 04:27 PM
They look nice, but I can't read a damn word of the thing. It is quite difficult to decipher. Is that part of the fun? Decoding what he is writing? lol. I don't know.

Cowlesy
03-19-2009, 03:49 PM
Not all the documents are hard to read. The one I linked to is avowedly difficult. You need to use the zoom feature and then scroll back and forth, but his prose is crystal clear.

Other letters where the ink isn't as thick, or he has a sharper quill are much easier to read.

Thanks for the bumps TW!

Cowlesy
03-19-2009, 03:51 PM
Thomas Jefferson on religion.

Read it for yourself below.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/mss/mtj/mtj1/047/0800/0844.jpg

You will need to zoom in, but once you do, his letter is very easy to read.

Cowlesy
03-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Thomas Jefferson on religion.

Read it for yourself below.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/mss/mtj/mtj1/047/0800/0844.jpg

You will need to zoom in, but once you do, his letter is very easy to read.

My favorite thing Jefferson said was on the second page. In speaking of a dispute Miles King must have had with Jefferson's religion


nay, we have heard it said that there is not a quaker or a baptist, a presbyterian or an episcopalian, a catholic or a protestant in heaven: that, on entering that gate, we leave those badges of schism behind, and find ourselves united in those principles only in which god has united us all. let us not be uneasy then about the different roads we may pursue, as believing them the shortest, to that our last abode: but, following the guidance of a good conscience, let us be happy in the hope that, by these different paths, we shall all meet in the end. and that you and I may there meet is my earnest prayer: and with this assurance I salute you with brotherly esteem and respect.

Truth Warrior
03-19-2009, 04:10 PM
Not all the documents are hard to read. The one I linked to is avowedly difficult. You need to use the zoom feature and then scroll back and forth, but his prose is crystal clear.

Other letters where the ink isn't as thick, or he has a sharper quill are much easier to read.

Thanks for the bumps TW!

You betcha! ;) :)

Jefferson's Religious Beliefs
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2011728&postcount=1 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2011728&postcount=1)

Truth Warrior
03-20-2009, 07:07 AM
Bump for TJ!

Cowlesy
03-22-2009, 07:11 PM
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mellamojuana
03-22-2009, 09:18 PM
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

What a privilege to see these old letters. I wish I could see them "up close and personal."

Thanks. It's inspiring to be exposed to them.

Cowlesy
03-23-2009, 07:40 AM
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

What a privilege to see these old letters. I wish I could see them "up close and personal."

Thanks. It's inspiring to be exposed to them.

I find that we often just hear selected quotes, or just a historian's interpretation of what one of these guys had written.

I enjoy reading documents straight from their own hand, and making my own interpretations.

Truth Warrior
03-23-2009, 08:25 AM
Bump for TJ!

Truth Warrior
03-24-2009, 10:04 AM
Bump for TJ!

DamianTV
04-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Is there a text version instead of a photo version that you can link to, or just type or quote in a post? I cant read half of those pics...

Cowlesy
09-11-2009, 08:53 PM
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tonesforjonesbones
09-11-2009, 09:07 PM
Seems Jefferson was pretty religious to me..the letter sounds like he is. tones

Cowlesy
01-18-2010, 07:55 PM
Bump