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futureleft
03-14-2009, 08:12 PM
Maybe y'all can relate...but I have been massive failure in trying to warn people. I don't believe in preaching to the choir. I don't think I have been successful in warning one person that an economic crisis is coming. I have been at it for a year, ever since Ron Paul illuminated me and people still preach the same stupid nonsense.

The question is...how much can we blame the government before we realize that it really is the public to blame?

ladyjade3
03-14-2009, 08:14 PM
What's your approach like?

OptionsTrader
03-14-2009, 08:16 PM
Most people are too fucking stupid to listen, screw them. Do your best to predict future events and prepare yourself before others panic and drive up the price of what you need.

futureleft
03-14-2009, 08:27 PM
What's your approach like?

It is hard to step away and analyze yourself...should I coddle people? Should I agree with them even when I think they are wrong? I mean...it's hard to spend an enormous amount of time reading Austrian Economics and then be ok with blokehead economics.

What should I do? Mostly I explain the Federal Reserve and am treated like a weirdo.

Original_Intent
03-14-2009, 08:49 PM
It is hard to step away and analyze yourself...should I cuddle people? Should I agree with them even when I think they are wrong? I mean...it's hard to spend an enormous amount of time reading Austrian Economics and then be ok with blokehead economics.

What should I do? Mostly I explain the Federal Reserve and am treated like a weirdo.

Keep talking to as many people as you can. Don't go all conspiracy theory on them (it is a conspiracy, but they can learn that on their own once they have taken some baby steps)

On my team of about 20 people at work, a year ago I was literally known as the conspiracy theorist. Now most of them pay a hell of a lot of attention to me, the boss calls me into his office to talk about what I think is going to happen next.

My best friend, who has been thoroughly Hannitized, even he has started asking some good questions lately, and he is exercising some independent thought rather than regurgitatimg Sean's talking points. He still has a ways to go. A long ways.

Don't look at it like converts to a religion. Enjoy the small victories if you even get people to think critically and question the MSM once in a while. Most people, with what they currently believe, if they got the whole truth all at once, would just fall to the ground and assume a fetal position. I have been "searching" for as much of the truth as I can find for over 20 years now. I think I have a good basic picture but there are still tons of pieces missing from my puzzle as well.

If some people aren't even trying to put the puzzle together, you won't have much luck showing them where pieces fit. Move on.

pcosmar
03-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Start with the persons areas of interest, something they are already concerned about.
That is the point of connection, and can lead to other areas. Most of our problems are interconnected.
Don't try to give them too much info at once. you can overload them.

Accept that some people can not be reached. There are some that desire a socialist or authoritarian govt. Some think a One World Government is a good thing.
Don't waste time with them. Those that see it will want more information, feed it to them as they can absorb it.
Wake those you can.

Live_Free_Or_Die
03-14-2009, 09:03 PM
I can relate. I suck ass at winning people over. Although it could be because I come off as an asshole. If the first step on the path of asshole recovery is admit the problem I am perpetually at step two. :)

I'll you tell this, people I know are starting to listen more and ask more questions. Don't mean they are buying anything I am selling but they are at least starting to shop.

futureleft
03-14-2009, 09:05 PM
You know...the problem is that I am not an upstanding citizen...I smoke and drink. I don't make a lot of money. I don't have some impressive degree. I am next in line to be umemployed...just a normal dude. But I have been right all along the way and I have been outspoken. Maybe it isn't the government but the stupidity of the public. And I have an enormous amount of love for so many people who espouse stupid views.

I always go back to this Carlin video...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWgsfXEPR4.

RonPaulCentral
03-14-2009, 09:18 PM
Maybe y'all can relate...but I have been massive failure in trying to warn people. I don't believe in preaching to the choir. I don't think I have been successful in warning one person that an economic crisis is coming. I have been at it for a year, ever since Ron Paul illuminated me and people still preach the same stupid nonsense.

The question is...how much can we blame the government before we realize that it really is the public to blame?

I don't know about you but I have warned many people and it has worked. The numbers have grown upon each other as those people have carried on the work. I know it has grown to include a LOT of people because I get CC'ed on all their messages in their groups. Heck, even one of the people I woke up is launching a liberty type organization soon.

Just keep telling people! You might catch that ONE RIGHT PERSON and you might start something that results in things even you could not imagine.

And if you are wondering if people really know about what is going on in regards to the economic crisis.... just go read some of the financial trading groups.... (blogs, financial new websites, etc). People are VERY aware and are taking serious steps of protection.

Keep up the good work and don't get discouraged!

WarDog
03-14-2009, 09:29 PM
People that are not informed are the hardest to open up they live in there Apathy and now that thing's are turning for the worst they appear more open cause we are right and we are on target.

I have 3 sons two are dead from this war. I have one left he voted for Obama I was out raged by his vote I tried to show him after all that has happened was because of the Neo Cons and there agenda. Now that he see's his future wear he works is laying off workers and hes on the chopping block and scared. This will be our time the people are seeing the bleakness of there future and there wealth deviating right in front of them. My 1 only son finally is seeing the truth of what I have been trying to get through to to him. Now am on the chopping block my spinal chord has a disease and I cant even stand long enough to cook a meal I live alone I bought gold and silver and i have hope that it will double before I go broke. Now am scared and I know whats in store if we fail.

This is our time and god dam it all it if we fail to wake these people up. I feel hope that we will prevail some how and that people will come to the light and see this evil for what it is and stand up and take back what is rightfully ours and restore our Republic. Here is a link to what France is doing I suggest we do the same before they kill us all


In an attampt to rid it's country from the contol of Zionist Lobby Groups and organizations, France has launched it's new Anti Zionist Political Party called "Parti Anti Sioniste." Below are the parties goals taken from a translated page:
http://atheonews.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-anti-zionist-party-launched.html

raystone
03-14-2009, 10:02 PM
People that are not informed are the hardest to open up they live in there Apathy and now that thing's are turning for the worst they appear more open cause we are right and we are on target.

I have 3 sons two are dead from this war. I have one left he voted for Obama I was out raged by his vote I tried to show him after all that has happened was because of the Neo Cons and there agenda. Now that he see's his future wear he works is laying off workers and hes on the chopping block and scared. This will be our time the people are seeing the bleakness of there future and there wealth deviating right in front of them. My 1 only son finally is seeing the truth of what I have been trying to get through to to him. Now am on the chopping block my spinal chord has a disease and I cant even stand long enough to cook a meal I live alone I bought gold and silver and i have hope that it will double before I go broke. Now am scared and I know whats in store if we fail.

This is our time and god dam it all it if we fail to wake these people up. I feel hope that we will prevail some how and that people will come to the light and see this evil for what it is and stand up and take back what is rightfully ours and restore our Republic. Here is a link to what France is doing I suggest we do the same before they kill us all


In an attampt to rid it's country from the contol of Zionist Lobby Groups and organizations, France has launched it's new Anti Zionist Political Party called "Parti Anti Sioniste." Below are the parties goals taken from a translated page:
http://atheonews.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-anti-zionist-party-launched.html


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