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rational thinker
03-14-2009, 03:22 PM
http://palsolidarity.org/2009/03/5324

Confirmed by Israel's own Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1236764180001&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

ramallamamama
03-14-2009, 03:31 PM
http://palsolidarity.org/2009/03/5324

Confirmed by Israel's own Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1236764180001&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
That's so friggin tragic.

It infuriates me.

donnay
03-14-2009, 03:50 PM
This is indeed tragic!!

The sad thing is it is totally unnecessary.

Brings backs anger of Rachel Corrie!

Reason
03-14-2009, 04:26 PM
After researching the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict I can say without reservations,

Fuck Israel.

brandon
03-14-2009, 04:39 PM
Fuck Israel.

Agreed. Fuck that terrible, terrible country.

Liberty Star
03-15-2009, 10:06 AM
Joe Biden Diane Feinstein should hold fact finding inquiries.

Slightly off topic but religious violentism by extremists there has been getting out of hand for a while now:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1812430,00.html

http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jews-attack.htm

qh4dotcom
03-15-2009, 10:31 AM
It's the guy's fault too...what was he doing there in the middle of trouble?

If you go to the Middle East, dangerous cities in Mexico, Colombia, etc. you're looking for trouble.

youngbuck
03-15-2009, 05:43 PM
omg, f'n horrible. :mad:

ClayTrainor
03-15-2009, 05:48 PM
that's fucking crazy!

Oh man...

ElyaKatz
06-14-2009, 06:24 AM
http://palsolidarity.org/2009/03/5324

Confirmed by Israel's own Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1236764180001&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

The JP confirmed the man was injured. They do not report as to who is responsible for this man's injury. It was a closed military zone. He shouldn't have been there. Classic ISM tactics.

The ISM is run by Hamas at the highest levels. They love to recruit clueless foreigners, especially Americans, especially college students, get them seriously injured or killed by placing them in hot zones. They cynically used their own people, and foreigners for the PR gristmill.

There is no doubt that Arabs in the region are suffering. That is not the question. The question is, why? Who is responsible? I say those who refuse to make peace, who insist on belligerency, are responsible.

Hamas Charter (http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm)

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."

Hamas seriously lacks credibility. Americans who put their lives in the hands of jihadis who don't consider "infidels" any more valuable than cattle really should think again. Too bad this guy didn't.

sratiug
06-14-2009, 06:51 AM
The JP confirmed the man was injured. They do not report as to who is responsibel for this man's injury. It was a closed military zone. He shouldn't have been there. Classic ISM tactics.

The ISM is run by Hamas at the highest levels. They love to recruit clueless foreigners, especially Americans, especially college students, get them seriously injured or killed by placing them in hot zones. They cynically used their own people, and foreigners for the PR gristmill.

There is no doubt that Arabs in the region are suffering. That is not the question. The question is, why? Who is responsible?

I say those who refuse to make peace, who insist on belligerency, are responsible.

Hamas Charter (http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm)

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."

Hamas seriously lacks credibility. Americans who put their lives in the hands of jihadis who don't consider "infidels" any more valuable than cattle really should think again. Too bad this guy didn't.

So you think the Balfour Declaration was a great idea and Zionists stealing the land of Palestine has nothing to do with the conflict? If the Zionists wanted peace they would leave.

ElyaKatz
06-14-2009, 08:26 AM
So you think the Balfour Declaration was a great idea and Zionists stealing the land of Palestine has nothing to do with the conflict? If the Zionists wanted peace they would leave.

Jews legally bought the land of Israel back, even though it was stolen from them. That or won it in wars imposed on them. If you question the Jewish claim to Israel, then how can you claim American rights to this continent? Europeans have only been here for several hundred years....Give it back I say.

I prefer to adhere to actual history, not Arab revisionist history. There was no peace in the region before the Jewish people arrived. There will be no peace if the Jewish people leave.

Medina was originally a heavily Jewish settlement. Muhammad destroyed it. Now Saudi Arabia is Judenrein. Yet Israel,which has an Arab as a Supreme Court Justice, has Arab Knesset members, and has a 20% Arab population that lives very nicely, with full civil rights, Israel is excoriated as racist.

Islam simply refuses to reconcile with "infidels" and the Jewish people are number one on their list. Once we're out of the way, they move on, maybe to you.

Anti Federalist
06-14-2009, 08:28 AM
Get angry about that shit happening right here...

YouTube - Miami Police Shot Protester, then laugh about it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63FEamhpA0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Einfowars%2Ecom%2Fcops%2Dsh oot%2Dwoman%2Din%2Dface%2Dlaugh%2Dabout%2Dit%2F&feature=player_embedded)

Anti Federalist
06-14-2009, 08:32 AM
Boston police accept 'full responsibility' in death of Red Sox fan
Woman killed by projectile fired to disperse crowds
Friday, October 22, 2004 Posted: 3:54 AM EDT (0754 GMT)

(CNN) -- The Boston Police Department "accepts full responsibility" for the death of a 21-year-old college student killed by a police projectile fired to disperse crowds celebrating the Boston Red Sox victory over the New York Yankees.

Preliminary findings indicate that Victoria Snelgrove, a journalism student at Emerson College, was hit in the eye by a projectile that disperses pepper spray on impact, Boston Police Commissioner Kathleen O'Toole said Thursday.

Snelgrove died at 12:50 p.m. at Brigham and Women's Hospital, hours after the overnight melee.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/22/fan.death/

Dr.3D
06-14-2009, 08:37 AM
Get angry about that shit happening right here...



Exactly, it isn't about who shot the projectile so much as it is about accidents happening when there is a showdown between law enforcement and civilians who are being disruptive.

It all falls into the category of **it happens.

People don't get hurt if they are not at the wrong place at the right time.

Cowlesy
06-14-2009, 08:50 AM
Get angry about that shit happening right here...

YouTube - Miami Police Shot Protester, then laugh about it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63FEamhpA0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Einfowars%2Ecom%2Fcops%2Dsh oot%2Dwoman%2Din%2Dface%2Dlaugh%2Dabout%2Dit%2F&feature=player_embedded)

Exactly --- we have enough problems in our own nation. I don't care what the religious zealots do fighting over that stupid wasteland. The last thing any American should do is be in the middle of a religious conflict that will never be resolved.

Hope he's okay, comes back to his senses and gets out of that hellhole.

ElyaKatz
06-14-2009, 10:21 AM
Exactly --- we have enough problems in our own nation. I don't care what the religious zealots do fighting over that stupid wasteland. The last thing any American should do is be in the middle of a religious conflict that will never be resolved.

Hope he's okay, comes back to his senses and gets out of that hellhole.

American kids need to be educated not to get in the middle of the war between Hamas and Israel. It's not their battle. They have more appropriate things to do with their lives. The battle against the likes of Hamas belongs to Israelis.

Rachel Corrie was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The ISM specializes in this garbage. They do the bulk of their recruiting on American campuses.


http://www.geocities.com/rachav/rachel-corrie-flag-02.jpg

Rachel Corrie, burning a mock American flag