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Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 08:56 AM
Live in manchester via my iPhone. Were going to be doing a sign wave and rally in front of the verizon center in just a few minutes. They are setting up the straw poll in veterans park as I type, with the straw poll expected to start at 12. Meetup estimate says atleast 300 confirmed ron Paul supporters with people coming up from as far ad new York.
more updates to come and hopefully some pics later in the day!
Geronimo
09-16-2007, 09:09 AM
Live in manchester via my iPhone. Were going to be doing a sign wave and rally in front of the verizon center in just a few minutes. They are setting up the straw poll in veterans park as I type, with the straw poll expected to start at 12. Meetup estimate says atleast 300 confirmed ron Paul supporters with people coming up from as far ad new York.
more updates to come and hopefully some pics later in the day!
What time do they stop the voting? In other words, what's the latest time I could show up and still vote?
Keep us posted Jared! Great work!
You stand for us ALL!! Make your presence noticed!
Lord Xar
09-16-2007, 10:01 AM
oh, you mean another straw poll that Ron Paul will place high in, but MSM will simply ignore it.... :)
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 10:06 AM
We have the corners of elm street littered with lots of supporters passing out slim jims, holding signs and banners. Good turn out so far with plenty showing up as it gets later.
our tent is up with huge ron paul signs!
come on down and vote and join the revolution! If you pass by beep and let us hear you!
more to come later!
Geronimo
09-16-2007, 10:07 AM
We have the corners of elm street littered with lots of supporters passing out slim jims, holding signs and banners. Good turn out so far with plenty showing up as it gets later.
our tent is up with huge ron paul signs!
come on down and vote and join the revolution! If you pass by beep and let us hear you!
more to come later!
What time do they stop the voting? In other words, what's the latest time I could show up and still vote?
Any idea?
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 10:17 AM
The manchester gop website reports that the event goes from 12-6. We are headed into the event in a few and i will gey confirmation for you in there.
more news to come
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 10:36 AM
now inside the event, good live music on a nice fall day, really starting to feel like primary season.
candidates represented by tables or tents: huckabee, cox, Thompson, rudy, and ron Paul. Surprised not to see a Romney table, maybe they are running late?
we need your vote, come on down to veterans park!
ross11988
09-16-2007, 10:54 AM
now inside the event, good live music on a nice fall day, really starting to feel like primary season.
candidates represented by tables or tents: huckabee, cox, Thompson, rudy, and ron Paul. Surprised not to see a Romney table, maybe they are running late?
we need your vote, come on down to veterans park!
who looks to have the most supporters?
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 11:02 AM
not surprising we seem to have the largest amount of supporters here and easily the best tent dressed with large signs and ron paul helium ballons. There are a lit of fred thompson supporters here though! We need our nh voters to get out and vote!
the brownback supporters have just showed.
Geronimo
09-16-2007, 11:10 AM
Have you voted yet?
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 12:16 PM
I am an out of state resident for the time being so I am unable to vote as of now. I have inspected the voter areas and they are checking resident I'd's. Everything looks safe and going smoothly.
a lot of fred thompson supporters hete.
lorindon
09-16-2007, 12:22 PM
Is there any live streaming going on? I'd love to watch the event.
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 12:36 PM
most of the cameras here are ron Paul supporters cameras for youtube videos. So I doubt there is live streaming going on. I just took pics of the voting tables for the voter fraud conspiracy theorists.
ron paul and fred thompson have the most supporters based on naked eye predictions.
Geronimo
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
I just took pics of the voting tables for the voter fraud conspiracy theorists.
I don't get it.
I showed up. Got some lit from the RP table. Voted for RP and then I left.
Good times.
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
still waving signs, passing out slim jims and plugging along. Lots of supporters still hanging out. Theres an after party at murphys tap room at 6 where we are going to celebrate our victory and talk with the nh campaign manager.
results should be here in an hour or so
Johnnybags
09-16-2007, 02:13 PM
still waving signs, passing out slim jims and plugging along. Lots of supporters still hanging out. Theres an after party at murphys tap room at 6 where we are going to celebrate our victory and talk with the nh campaign manager.
results should be here in an hour or so
The old Fredster novelty will probably get him the nod for now til he starts talking in debates. Hopefully Romney goes down in flames. They say he leads there but he certainly had little support at the last debate from the crowd so I suspect the poll is bogus.
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 02:41 PM
just got word the results might bit be known until seven. Voting ends in about 20 minutes! Rest assured the vote results and tally will be posted in this thread immediately!
we are canvassing the area try to turn out some last minute votes as we speak.
spacebetween
09-16-2007, 02:46 PM
just got word the results might bit be known until seven. Voting ends in about 20 minutes! Rest assured the vote results and tally will be posted in this thread immediately!
we are canvassing the area try to turn out some last minute votes as we speak.
Can't wait to hear the results! Thanks for all the updates!
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 03:13 PM
polls are closed, the count is on. Ron Pauls campaign spoke for a few minutes before the vote was closed, hopefully snagged a couple last minute voters, were going to need them!
results coming next!
Cowlesy
09-16-2007, 03:16 PM
polls are closed, the count is on. Ron Pauls campaign spoke for a few minutes before the vote was closed, hopefully snagged a couple last minute voters, were going to need them!
results coming next!
Jared ---
1.) Thanks for making the trip up as an out-of-state supporter.
2.) Supporters should be thrilled with a finish in the Top 5. It would go to show how dedicated New Hampshire voters are to Ron Paul.
3.) Thanks also for the updates. I am listening to a webcast of my football team (football psycho here), but I like to supplement it with hearing about Live Ron Paul supporter news.
Great work, and thank you for sharing.
Ryan
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Ron Paul wins with 65% of the vote! Headed to celebrate! Full tally in a while!
Chester Copperpot
09-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Ron Paul wins with 65% of the vote! Headed to celebrate! Full tally in a while!
HUZZA!
Dustancostine
09-16-2007, 04:07 PM
Whooooooooop!!!!!!!!!
wolv275
09-16-2007, 04:08 PM
Ron Paul wins with 65% of the vote! Headed to celebrate! Full tally in a while!
is that a bit of chain pulling or the truth? :confused:
Ozwest
09-16-2007, 04:09 PM
Yee Ha!!!
Chester Copperpot
09-16-2007, 04:10 PM
Live in manchester via my iPhone. Were going to be doing a sign wave and rally in front of the verizon center in just a few minutes. They are setting up the straw poll in veterans park as I type, with the straw poll expected to start at 12. Meetup estimate says atleast 300 confirmed ron Paul supporters with people coming up from as far ad new York.
more updates to come and hopefully some pics later in the day!
Who sponsored this Straw poll? and was it a county or statewide poll?
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 04:14 PM
manchester GOP sponsored the straw poll. And 65% is official no chain pulling.
leipo
09-16-2007, 04:16 PM
Great victory!
Dustancostine
09-16-2007, 04:16 PM
Have we gotten less than 50% in any NH straw poll?
Michael Ingram
09-16-2007, 04:17 PM
omg that's amazing :D :D :D :eek:
hopeforamerica
09-16-2007, 04:17 PM
manchester GOP sponsored the straw poll. And 65% is official no chain pulling.
OMG! That is awesome! Let's see how it gets reported now.
jgmaynard
09-16-2007, 04:21 PM
I went - it was great! There were SO many of us there, it was incredible! The energy and the numbers of RP supporters was amazing. There were 10 baskets or so for each candidate that you put your vote into, and I looked at the baskets about 3:30 as I casually passed by the voting booth (holding a 3x5 RP sign) and 65% sounds about right. We SO Rock! LOL.
JM
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 04:21 PM
Full Official tally:
1. Ron Paul: 11 votes - 65%
2. Fred Thompson: 17 votes - 9%
3. Rudy Giuliani: 16 votes- 9%
4. Mike huckabee: 12 votes - 6%
5. Mitt Romney: 5 votes - 2%
6. Cox/tancerdo: 3 voted - 1%
7: mccain: 2 votes - 1%
8. Brownback: 1 votes
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 04:22 PM
paul got 114 votes not 11 sorry
Johnnybags
09-16-2007, 04:22 PM
Have we gotten less than 50% in any NH straw poll?
Probably a very few, the so called polls are nothing but chamber of commerce republicans(300 or so) that get called everytime. Its plain to see now, the Republican Party will be brought back to its roots or cease to exist. Bush the Emperor will be more and more alone. No wonder so many are quitting.
ItsTime
09-16-2007, 04:23 PM
Full Official tally:
1. Ron Paul: 11 votes - 65%
2. Fred Thompson: 17 votes - 9%
3. Rudy Giuliani: 16 votes- 9%
4. Mike huckabee: 12 votes - 6%
5. Mitt Romney: 5 votes - 2%
6. Cox/tancerdo: 3 voted - 1%
7: mccain: 2 votes - 1%
8. Brownback: 1 votes
typo? what were Pauls final count? im sure its not 11.
torchbearer
09-16-2007, 04:23 PM
oh ok.
Michael Ingram
09-16-2007, 04:23 PM
a rather small turnout though?
Dustancostine
09-16-2007, 04:25 PM
a rather small turnout though?
How do you think the primaries are going to be? This may be the key to us winning. I don't think the Rep base is going to turn out.
wolv275
09-16-2007, 04:25 PM
manchester GOP sponsored the straw poll. And 65% is official no chain pulling.
Woot i hope they endorse him for prez, after all the NJ Gop endorsed Rudy
Ron Paul Fan
09-16-2007, 04:28 PM
typo? what were Pauls final count? im sure its not 11.
It's gotta be 114 for Paul. 111/172 is about 65%. Very good result for Congressman Paul!
Johnnybags
09-16-2007, 04:29 PM
a rather small turnout though?
across the country because of Republicans(proper), it seems the only one who can draw everywhere is Paul. The last NH straw poll he got 200+ of 300 or so votes, if the Paul supporters did not show up its like noone cares. In Texas there were more Paul people outside in a parade (not allowed to vote) than actually voted inside? At the NH Debate the attendance was driven by Ron Paul. Paul is raising funds for the Republicam party yet they hate him? Something is wrong somewhere.
Ozwest
09-16-2007, 04:31 PM
This is a small State with the motto "Live Free or Die". Buses wont help McRommney like they did in Iowa. This State could kick-start the Revolution.
ItsTime
09-16-2007, 04:33 PM
a rather small turnout though?
some people may be waiting for the 29th ;)
LibertyEagle
09-16-2007, 05:14 PM
Ron Paul wins with 65% of the vote! Headed to celebrate! Full tally in a while!
HALLELUJAH!!! :D :D :D
speciallyblend
09-16-2007, 05:40 PM
Great Job In Nh,keep It Up ,dont Stop Ron Pauling It2008
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 06:02 PM
I am back at home after a long day of campaigning; I arrived at 9:50am grabbed a cup of coffee and met up with the Ron Paul supporters to start getting ready. I am back at my macbook so it's a lot easier to type and go into depth on certain subjects.
A. The grassroots movement that was there today is the cream of the crop. These people were there busting ass from 930am or so until 530-600pm. Had large groups passing out slim jims and waving signs through the whole day, easily out lasting the Fred Thompson and Sam Brownback folks.
B. The turn out was much lower than the GOP expected and lower than the Ron Paul folks expected. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, there was something like 300 confirmed supporters who planned on attending from the NHRP meetup let alone. This means two things; A. they simply didn't show up or B. there are a lot of out-of-state folks in the NH meet up groups.
C. Sam Brownback had 3-4 people waving signs on elm street at one point but only garnered a single vote? Maybe they were out of staters? Or maybe they didn't want to spend the $10 to vote?
D. Fred Thompson easily had the second most amount of supporters there. He had a large table set up, he had supporters on the side of the road with signs, and his table was generating a decent amount of traffic. I was surprised to hear he only got 17 votes albeit most of his supporters that I spoke with were out of state supporters.
E. The Paul supporters really wish he would spend more time in the state and that the official campaign would have more presence in the state. My feeling is that he is hurting his chances in the state by campaigning in states like Michigan, Florida and Nevada because New Hampshire voters value their primary so much. I think the campaign is going to have to decide shortly what their game plan is. He can't continue campaigning in MI, NV, and FL and expect to stand a chance of winning in IA or NH. If he had the money Mitt Romney does I would say, go for it, but he doesn't and right now the state of NH is being almost exclusively run by a small group of awesome diehard grassrooters. The official campaign needs to do better.
All in all it was such a great day. So many people asking us who Ron Paul is and getting slim jims.. We have so much work to do but it makes us look forward to it after a great win like today. Thanks for the kind words from those who enjoyed this threat, my next live posting will come when the congressman returns to the state on the 29th.
God Bless.
- Jared Callanan
disinter
09-16-2007, 06:16 PM
I hope they add it here:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Strafford County, NH 8/18/2007 1 72.2%
New Hampshire Taxpayers 7/7/2007 1 65.3%
Manchester GOP Straw Poll: 9/16/07 1 65%
The Congressman hits the trifecta
disinter
09-16-2007, 06:24 PM
Their website says he got 66%:
http://www.manchestergop.com/
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 06:26 PM
interesting.. I guess the results they announced at the event itself may have been slightly off.
disinter
09-16-2007, 06:27 PM
interesting.. I guess the results they announced at the event itself may have been slightly off.
Yea, looks like they initially gave Brownback too many.
Hurricane Bruiser
09-16-2007, 06:29 PM
Awesome!!!
Well Ron Paul seemed to have a great tour in the West which sounded like it helped the campaign out quite a bit both financially and with publicity. As far as strategy goes, I see a need for campaigning more in NH as that state is more likely to vote for him and it is the first. But bringing up national poll numbers is important and tours to other parts of the country should help out in that area. Tough calls to make as to where to go...
Ron Paul Fan
09-16-2007, 06:31 PM
I am back at home after a long day of campaigning; I arrived at 9:50am grabbed a cup of coffee and met up with the Ron Paul supporters to start getting ready. I am back at my macbook so it's a lot easier to type and go into depth on certain subjects.
A. The grassroots movement that was there today is the cream of the crop. These people were there busting ass from 930am or so until 530-600pm. Had large groups passing out slim jims and waving signs through the whole day, easily out lasting the Fred Thompson and Sam Brownback folks.
B. The turn out was much lower than the GOP expected and lower than the Ron Paul folks expected. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, there was something like 300 confirmed supporters who planned on attending from the NHRP meetup let alone. This means two things; A. they simply didn't show up or B. there are a lot of out-of-state folks in the NH meet up groups.
C. Sam Brownback had 3-4 people waving signs on elm street at one point but only garnered a single vote? Maybe they were out of staters? Or maybe they didn't want to spend the $10 to vote?
D. Fred Thompson easily had the second most amount of supporters there. He had a large table set up, he had supporters on the side of the road with signs, and his table was generating a decent amount of traffic. I was surprised to hear he only got 17 votes albeit most of his supporters that I spoke with were out of state supporters.
E. The Paul supporters really wish he would spend more time in the state and that the official campaign would have more presence in the state. My feeling is that he is hurting his chances in the state by campaigning in states like Michigan, Florida and Nevada because New Hampshire voters value their primary so much. I think the campaign is going to have to decide shortly what their game plan is. He can't continue campaigning in MI, NV, and FL and expect to stand a chance of winning in IA or NH. If he had the money Mitt Romney does I would say, go for it, but he doesn't and right now the state of NH is being almost exclusively run by a small group of awesome diehard grassrooters. The official campaign needs to do better.
All in all it was such a great day. So many people asking us who Ron Paul is and getting slim jims.. We have so much work to do but it makes us look forward to it after a great win like today. Thanks for the kind words from those who enjoyed this threat, my next live posting will come when the congressman returns to the state on the 29th.
God Bless.
- Jared Callanan
Dr. Paul will be in New Hampshire at the end of the month. Last week he did the west coast swing where he's raising some good cash. Now he's in Florida for the debate tomorrow. He can't be in New Hampshire 24/7 because other states have primaries too and he has to raise a lot of money. I think Dr. Paul will hit New Hampshire hard soon enough. We're still 4 months away from their primary for christ sake! Just be patient and trust his good judgement.
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 06:40 PM
Ron Paul Fan,
I am guessing you are not a resident of New Hampshire and therefore are having trouble understand what I am saying. I have spoken about this in the past and will touch on it once again:
I am a past New Hampshire resident and will be a New Hampshire resident and eligible to vote in New Hampsire come primary time. The problem with Ron Paul campaigning in Nevada, Michigan, and Florida is simple; these states pose a threat to the first in nation primary status of New Hampshire. The voters of this state value and cherish their first in the nation primary status more than they do the issues, that is why you will hear a lot of these candidates say that they refuse to campaign in the three states mentioned above.
By visiting these states Ron Paul takes the risk of alienating the voters of New Hampshire and Iowa.
Now if the campaign turned around and said, we are going to focus on Nevada would I be angry? Absolutely not. If the official campaign decides that the Nevada caucus is the easier of the early caucus' / primarys to win than I will support that decision and the grassroots movement of this state will move forward and continue to bust their ass to do what they have to do.
Now you can sit there and talk down to us as if we have no clue what we are talking about but I think it's a pretty valid point.
MsDoodahs
09-16-2007, 06:53 PM
Ron Paul Fan,
I am a past New Hampshire resident and will be a New Hampshire resident and eligible to vote in New Hampsire come primary time. The problem with Ron Paul campaigning in Nevada, Michigan, and Florida is simple; these states pose a threat to the first in nation primary status of New Hampshire. The voters of this state value and cherish their first in the nation primary status more than they do the issues, that is why you will hear a lot of these candidates say that they refuse to campaign in the three states mentioned above.
By visiting these states Ron Paul takes the risk of alienating the voters of New Hampshire and Iowa.
Jared, are you saying that NH voters value their "first in the nation" status more than they value issues and will vote based on which candidate treats them accordingly?
Also, have any candidates said they won't campaign in the other three in order to placate the NH voters? I've not heard that.
quickmike
09-16-2007, 07:02 PM
I thought there were an assload of FT supporters there. What happened to them?
Not that im complaining:D , but thats kinda strange being that you said there were alot of those people in attendance.
RON IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!
KNOCKIN' DOWN SUCKAZ 4 REAL
I still cant believe he got 65%.............. awesome!!!!
ItsTime
09-16-2007, 07:09 PM
I thought there were an assload of FT supporters there. What happened to them?
Not that im complaining:D , but thats kinda strange being that you said there were alot of those people in attendance.
RON IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!
KNOCKIN' DOWN SUCKAZ 4 REAL
I still cant believe he got 65%.............. awesome!!!!
He had a few people around his booth I would say second the amount of people to ron paul, but no where near ron paul. And Rudy, well see for yourself,
Only person there, so he leaves the booth unattended (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/mainedreamz/DCFC0101.jpg)
quickmike
09-16-2007, 07:13 PM
He had a few people around his booth I would say second the amount of people to ron paul, but no where near ron paul. And Rudy, well see for yourself,
Only person there, so he leaves the booth unattended (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/mainedreamz/DCFC0101.jpg)
No dude, I think that was a lemonade stand. LOL
Lesgov
09-16-2007, 07:17 PM
As a NH native I don't completely agree with Jared, yes It's sad that Ron Paul can't be here more, but he needs money. NH is a small state, we don't have that much money. We do have hard workers though, I think he's depending on us to carry the load and get the word out. He needs to be in the other states to draw the money. No problem, we just have to work harder in NH.
Ron Paul Fan
09-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Ron Paul Fan,
I am guessing you are not a resident of New Hampshire and therefore are having trouble understand what I am saying. I have spoken about this in the past and will touch on it once again:
I am a past New Hampshire resident and will be a New Hampshire resident and eligible to vote in New Hampsire come primary time. The problem with Ron Paul campaigning in Nevada, Michigan, and Florida is simple; these states pose a threat to the first in nation primary status of New Hampshire. The voters of this state value and cherish their first in the nation primary status more than they do the issues, that is why you will hear a lot of these candidates say that they refuse to campaign in the three states mentioned above.
By visiting these states Ron Paul takes the risk of alienating the voters of New Hampshire and Iowa.
Now if the campaign turned around and said, we are going to focus on Nevada would I be angry? Absolutely not. If the official campaign decides that the Nevada caucus is the easier of the early caucus' / primarys to win than I will support that decision and the grassroots movement of this state will move forward and continue to bust their ass to do what they have to do.
Now you can sit there and talk down to us as if we have no clue what we are talking about but I think it's a pretty valid point.
Jared, I wasn't talking down to you. I was just trying to explain that Dr. Paul needs to campaign in bigger states to raise enough money to even compete in New Hampshire! It'd be great if he could just go back and forth between Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. But he's gotta make money, he's got to get his name out there through debates in other states, and he still has a job that he takes very seriously in Washington. Maybe I don't fully understand things not being in New Hampshire, but I think Ron Paul knows what he's doing here. If it were the middle of December and Dr. Paul had only been there a few times I'd be worried, but it's September. There's plenty of time left.
stevedasbach
09-16-2007, 07:25 PM
However, Ron is at 5% in New Hampshire -- it's his best chance of boosting his numbers into double digits. Starting October 1, I think he needs to make periodic swings through NH -- BIG rallies -- lots of local media.
quickmike
09-16-2007, 07:27 PM
As a NH native I don't completely agree with Jared, yes It's sad that Ron Paul can't be here more, but he needs money. NH is a small state, we don't have that much money. We do have hard workers though, I think he's depending on us to carry the load and get the word out. He needs to be in the other states to draw the money. No problem, we just have to work harder in NH.
Thats the spirit!!!!
He will have his family there knocking on doors pretty soon, so that should be good.
Youre right though, he needs money. Without that, he cant do the advertising he needs to promote himself. He could get 70% in the NH straw poll and they would ignore the victory in the MSM and say "although paul faired well in the NH primaries, his campaign is lacking funds to promote a nationwide campaign", and without money, where does that leave him?
Screwed..........thats where.
quickmike
09-16-2007, 07:29 PM
However, Ron is at 5% in New Hampshire -- it's his best chance of boosting his numbers into double digits. Starting October 1, I think he needs to make periodic swings through NH -- BIG rallies -- lots of local media.
Pat Buchanan was at 6% right before the NH primaries. Just another reason not to trust the polls. They dont take into consideration independants and others and thats what Buchanan won with. Difference here is Ron has the internet, Buchanan didnt. Buchanan actually mentioned this one night on Tucker.
Jared Callanan
09-16-2007, 07:36 PM
MsDoodah,
I can not and will not speak for every resident of this state. What I will say is the voters of this state look at Florida, Nevada, and Michigan as a threat to their much cherished first in the nation primary. As I am sure everyone knows, this is a historical primary that brings a lot of money and a level of efficacy to the state. Much like Iowa the voters of this state expect to meet you, they expect you to be in their living rooms talking to you and your friends. John McCain said it best at the UNH debate just a couple of weeks ago:
" You know, one thing I know about New Hampshire and I know well is that the people of New Hampshire expect to see you. They expect to see you a lot, and they expect to see you at townhall meetings and at places all over this great state of New Hampshire. And they expect to see you before they make up their mind.
One of the many Arizonans who ran for president of the United States unsuccessfully, like all of us -- (laughter) -- Morris Udall. Once -- he was a very funny man. As you know, once he said -- a fellow in Manchester said to the other one, "What do you think about Mo Udall for president," and the guy said, "I don’t know. I only met him twice." And you know the reason why that joke is funny is because it’s true, and my advice to Fred is get out into the arena, Fred."
Ron Paul visiting the three states mentioned above makes for a certain level of risk. Do we want undecided voters entering the polls feeling slighted because Ron Paul decided to campaign else where instead of New Hampshire?
The previous poster pointed out how there is still four months left until the New Hampshire primary as if that is a lot of time to campaign here. I would suggest looking at the maverick campaigns of John McCain in 2000 and Howard Dean in 2004 to see just how frequently you have to visit this state in order to produce results. I believe it was Howard Dean who basically started campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire almost exclusively and full time close to a full year before the primary and caucus.
It is my opinion that Paul needs a very strong finish in one of the early primaries and that is including Nevada (caucus), Michigan, and or Florida. If we don't obtain a strong finish in one of these states our quest to win the nomination is essentially over barring a miracle like comeback.
If this campaign is simply about spreading a message as his campaign for President in 1988 was than please do visit as many states as possible. If this campaign is about winning then we need to get serious and do it quickly in these early primaries / caucus'. Once again, whatever the official campaign decides to do in terms of targeting one state or the other I will support.
This is now an extremely crowded field of ten, the grassroots is going to continue to work their asses off but in the long run we may need the candidate to meet the voters.
stevedasbach
09-16-2007, 07:39 PM
Ron's upcoming campaigning in Florida and Michigan are in conjunction with debates that most/all of the other candidates are also attending. His appearance in Nevada was to speak at Freedom Fest. The recent West Coast tour was in non-early primary states.
How does this represent "dissing" New Hampshire, even by NH voter standards?
OTOH, if you are saying that he needs to spend more time in NH, I doubt that anyone disagrees, and I expect he will once 3rd quarter fundraising is over.
Ozwest
09-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Good point quickmike... On a survey on one of these threads 70% of us were not previously Republicans. Is that 5% figure quoted for New Hampshire polling of registered Republicans or all voters?
Dustancostine
09-16-2007, 07:56 PM
Good point quickmike... On a survey on one of these threads 70% of us were not previously Republicans. Is that 5% figure quoted for New Hampshire polling of registered Republicans or all voters?
That survey was a little misleading. In open primary states you don't "register" for a party. You just pick which primary you want to vote in and vote. For instance I answered no in the poll, because I am not "registered", but have always voted Republican.
--Dustan
Ozwest
09-16-2007, 08:07 PM
Fair enough. Still interested if the scientific poll of 5% was registered Republicans or not because if it is, R.P. is still going to pickup a swathe of non-Republican voters. Way more than Rons neo-con competitors will.
stevedasbach
09-16-2007, 08:14 PM
Fair enough. Still interested if the scientific poll of 5% was registered Republicans or not because if it is, R.P. is still going to pickup a swathe of non-Republican voters. Way more than Rons neo-con competitors will.
The poll was of registered Republicans and Independents planning to vote in the Republican primary. Here's the link:
http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2007-09/32481597.pdf
Ozwest
09-16-2007, 08:17 PM
Thanks for that link. Much appreciated.
disinter
09-17-2007, 07:08 PM
Why haven't they added it here yet?
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results
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jd603
09-17-2007, 07:49 PM
Just like to add in a HELL YEAH for my home state. :)
Good to see our straw polls aren't a sham for the most part, and the polls seem to be dictating the support I see on the ground, despite bogus "scientific polls" which I am now more convinced than ever that they were bought and paid for by the money candidates. Or just extremely unreliable.
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