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Freedom 4 all
03-10-2009, 12:44 PM
Seriously, this is really starting to piss me off. They always stood beside us and talked (quite rightly) about violations of the first and fourth amendments when Bush was in power. Now that they won, they instantly morphed into everything they once stood against. How hypocritical can they get? The Secret Service should investigate posts on message boards now? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot over.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/10/1472/39699/1017/706825

acptulsa
03-10-2009, 12:55 PM
How hypocritical can they get?

Where mindless partisanship is concerned, the sky's the limit--unless and until we get really, really good at calling this b.s. out.

By the way, you're making a major mistake singling out liberals. Do you remember McCain 'suspending his campaign' to go bully the first bailout through the Senate? What kind of noises does he make now?

We need to call b.s., and we need to do it in a bipartisan manner.

ChaosControl
03-10-2009, 01:37 PM
It is the dailykos, that place is full of the most mentally deficient people in the country. Don't expect much from there.

Live_Free_Or_Die
03-10-2009, 01:38 PM
weak principles

Feenix566
03-10-2009, 01:38 PM
It's Cognitive Dissonance. They've committed themselves to the idea that the Democrats are always right. Their self-esteem and their self-image depend on it now. If they were to admit that the Democrats are capable of committing the same atrocities that the Republicans committed, then they would be logically forced to admit that they made a mistake by supporting the Democrats. So they choose instead to believe a made-up notion that it's okay when the Dems do it because the Dems are doing it "for the greater good."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

That's why we have partisanship. I'm convinced that Cognitive Dissonance can account for 90% of all human decision-making.

FrankRep
03-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Seriously, this is really starting to piss me off. They always stood beside us and talked (quite rightly) about violations of the first and fourth amendments when Bush was in power. Now that they won, they instantly morphed into everything they once stood against. How hypocritical can they get? The Secret Service should investigate posts on message boards now? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot over.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/10/1472/39699/1017/706825

Welcome to Politics.

Freedom 4 all
03-10-2009, 02:22 PM
It is the dailykos, that place is full of the most mentally deficient people in the country. Don't expect much from there.

They were always hardcore collectivists used to at least stick up for civil liberties and anti war type stuff. Now they forget all that and just ramped up the collectivism by a factor of 10. I'm not sure why this surprises me but it still does.

pinkmandy
03-10-2009, 02:26 PM
It's Cognitive Dissonance. They've committed themselves to the idea that the Democrats are always right. Their self-esteem and their self-image depend on it now. If they were to admit that the Democrats are capable of committing the same atrocities that the Republicans committed, then they would be logically forced to admit that they made a mistake by supporting the Democrats. So they choose instead to believe a made-up notion that it's okay when the Dems do it because the Dems are doing it "for the greater good."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

That's why we have partisanship. I'm convinced that Cognitive Dissonance can account for 90% of all human decision-making.

That's what I think, too. It's the same w/Repubs except instead of 'greater good' it was 'protect us from terrorists'.

Freedom 4 all
03-10-2009, 02:26 PM
Where mindless partisanship is concerned, the sky's the limit--unless and until we get really, really good at calling this b.s. out.

By the way, you're making a major mistake singling out liberals. Do you remember McCain 'suspending his campaign' to go bully the first bailout through the Senate? What kind of noises does he make now?

We need to call b.s., and we need to do it in a bipartisan manner.

I'm well aware it's not only liberals and I didn't mean to single them out. The GOP's rampant hypocracy has been all too evident for the last 8 years. I have no idea why I expected better from the Dems but I did. It just pains me to think that I used to rabidly stick up for that group.

Brooklyn Red Leg
03-10-2009, 02:39 PM
Truly sickening. There were a handful of people that understood exactly how dangerous what the other Kostards were advocating. Serious case of cognitive dissonance. And to lamely claim that none of the DailyKos posters EVER advocated violence when their party was out of power shows the true depth of their insanity.

However, the one that made me wanna puke my guts out was the 'But don't they understand that everything we want do will benefit them?' bullshit spouted by one asshole. I'm sorry, but having enforced government theft and other 'Progressive' programs that are the antithesis of liberty shoved down my throat makes me ill. Goddamn arrogant douchebags.

slothman
03-10-2009, 03:40 PM
I'm a liberal and I don't think of Obama and his policies as perfect.
Don't assume all liberals feel the same way.

Brooklyn Red Leg
03-10-2009, 03:41 PM
Restore the Republic video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphcVB_gCD0&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/10/1472/39699/1017/706825&feature=player_embedded)

This is being touted by the Kostards as 'dangerous'. WTF? Calling on our armed forces to fulfill their oath and not engage in unConstitutional bullshit is dangerous? Do those assholes not know that this was a BLANKET call, eventhough the 2nd Amendment was referended, to defend all of our rights? Un-fucking-believable how low those douchebags will sink.

JaylieWoW
03-10-2009, 03:55 PM
OMG I'm so sick of labels. Do we have to have a label for every damn thought or ideology every person might have?

I believe people should be free to live their lives how they choose providing they don't intrude on the rights of others to do the same. I suppose that shoves me into some neatly wrapped package of someone else's choosing, but I don't WANT a label. I just want to be free.

Ok, so I'm just ranting, but to see labels tossed out so much is starting to tickle something in my mind that says it just isn't right to give oneself a "label" (or someone else for that matter). I reckon I'll figure it out eventually.

acptulsa
03-11-2009, 06:36 AM
Ok, so I'm just ranting, but to see labels tossed out so much is starting to tickle something in my mind that says it just isn't right to give oneself a "label" (or someone else for that matter). I reckon I'll figure it out eventually.

But you're right. They use this false dichotomy to divide us and to distract us from the real agenda. Who was it that said (Ron Paul, I think) that when they act in a bipartisan manner, that's the time to watch your ass?

Most cliches get overused because they're true, and this one certainly fits that category--united we stand, divided we fall.

Truth Warrior
03-11-2009, 07:24 AM
This could be a much shorter thread if it were titled "What's right with Liberals?".<IMHO> :D Just a thought.

AuH20
03-11-2009, 07:47 AM
Is anyone surprised by this? We're talking about hardcore liberals here. The same people who think they are intellectually superior to the Founding Fathers just because they were born in the 21st century. They hold contempt for their ancestors, as well as the pillars of liberty set forth in the constitution. Its hard not to get angry and depressed when you hear some of the illogical bile that emerges from these people's mouths. They truly think they are building a better world by entrusting their fate to a monolithic government absent of any accountability. I've never seen a larger group of suckers in my entire life.

acptulsa
03-11-2009, 07:51 AM
I've never seen a larger group of saps in my entire life.

How can you be so petty and cruel to good-hearted people who only want to help their fellow man and do what's right, you reactionary, outdated, violent, gun- and God- loving, misguided moronic bubba?

*sob* He insulted us! What did we ever do to him (besides steal his money and use it for purposes he thinks are immoral, that is)? *wail*

AuH20
03-11-2009, 08:01 AM
How can you be so petty and cruel to good-hearted people who only want to help their fellow man and do what's right, you reactionary, outdated, violent, gun- and God- loving, misguided moronic bubba?

*sob* He insulted us! What did we ever do to him (besides steal his money and use it for purposes he thinks are immoral, that is)? *wail*

Many Liberals are the ulitmate monday morning quarterbacks, completely oblivious to the sacrifices and so-called "barbaric" methods which brought them to this lofty point in history. They're essentially sitting on the shoulders of dead giants who they vehemently despise. Despite all this criticism I don't think they're evil, but rather heavily brainwashed. Their birthright was stolen right from underneath them with this ridiculous indoctrination.

nobody's_hero
03-11-2009, 08:36 AM
This it what happens when the people try to represent the politicians instead of the politicians representing the people. Who serves who, again?

Pericles
03-11-2009, 08:39 AM
For your consideration:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/LeftRightLeft.shtml

AdamT
03-11-2009, 08:39 AM
I've seen this in libs I know as well. The dems can do no wrong in their eyes.

paulitics
03-11-2009, 08:52 AM
This the same reason I don't support so called conservates with a weak understanding of the 4th amendment (or a disdain of it) and why it's there. (Beck, Limbaugh. Hannity) These same conservatives will be calling for our detainment as enemy combatants. Do we see why the military comissions act was put into place and why we should all be concerned?

AuH20
03-11-2009, 09:15 AM
This the same reason I don't support so called conservates with a weak understanding of the 4th amendment (or a disdain of it) and why it's there. (Beck, Limbaugh. Hannity) These same conservatives will be calling for our detainment as enemy combatants. Do we see why the military comissions act was put into place and why we should all be concerned?

As much as I don't care for Limbaugh or Hannity, I seriously doubt this.

paulitics
03-11-2009, 09:16 AM
Is anyone surprised by this? We're talking about hardcore liberals here. The same people who think they are intellectually superior to the Founding Fathers just because they were born in the 21st century. They hold contempt for their ancestors, as well as the pillars of liberty set forth in the constitution. Its hard not to get angry and depressed when you hear some of the illogical bile that emerges from these people's mouths. They truly think they are building a better world by entrusting their fate to a monolithic government absent of any accountability. I've never seen a larger group of suckers in my entire life.


Excellent post. ;)

acptulsa
03-11-2009, 09:17 AM
As much as I don't care for Limbaugh or Hannity, I seriously doubt this.

Oh, don't worry. They won't do it until the neocons are back in charge.

paulitics
03-11-2009, 09:19 AM
As much as I don't care for Limbaugh or Hannity, I seriously doubt this.


You doubt this if there is a terrorist attack larger in scale than 911? Maybe not now, but when they regain power, I could see Michell Malkin or Beck doing this, as they have inched close to this slippery slope before.

AuH20
03-11-2009, 09:21 AM
Oh, don't worry. They won't do it until the neocons are back in charge.

I think slowly their eyes are being opened about the past failures of George W. Bush. I'm starting to see a gradual pushback for his bastardization of the Conservative philosophy. At the end of the day, does it really matter if he on's the your side in terms of abortion and embryo preservation, if he's a sell-out globalist? Some people refuse to look at the big picture because they're so frighrened by the opposition.

acptulsa
03-11-2009, 09:27 AM
At the end of the day, does it really matter if he on's the your side in terms of abortion and embryo preservation, if he's a sell-out globalist?

This is indeed happening; I see it all the time. It's heartening.

AuH20
03-11-2009, 09:33 AM
This is indeed happening; I see it all the time. It's heartening.

Yup. Make no mistake about it. George W. Bush paved the way for this utopian socialist to take full control of our federal government. Every 2 seconds, Obama "laments" having to impliment these emergency "measures", due to the mess Bush left him. Without big government George, there never is an Obama. He's just another senator who ends up on the ashheap on history.

klamath
03-11-2009, 09:48 AM
It is pure unadulterated partisanship. It is why I gave up on rebuild the party. Very few republicans would condeme McCain and Bush for the bailout but were bleating about how Obama was passing massive budgets. If the libertarians were in power they would be doing the same thing. It is one thing to work together as a party but another when you absolutely refuse to admit or condeme any actions of your own party yet condeme the other other party for the exact same thing.