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bobbyw24
03-04-2009, 04:59 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29493084
Obama Says Stocks Good Deal!
Posted By: Lee Brodie
Topics:Federal Budget (U.S.) | Barack Obama | Stock Market | Stock Picks


As investors grapple with the worst market since 1996, the President says stocks are a good deal.

Speaking at a press conference on Tuesday, President Barack Obama said “buying stocks is a potentially good deal if you’ve got a long-term perspective on it…”

He also said if lawmakers pay too close attention to Wall Street's "fits and starts" it could lead to bad long-term policy.


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Since Obama released his budget last Thursday the S&P 500 has fallen 8.4%.

Is Obama To Blame For Market Turmoil?

Over the past few days there’s been a growing outcry that the budget is the reason for the recent stock market plunge. That it was the budget which sent stocks to a level far below the critical technical level of 740 on the S&P 500 [.SPX 696.33 --- UNCH ], which many investors including FM trader Jeff Macke really thought would hold.


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In his blog, Fast Money producer John Melloy wrote about this phenomenon. He said, in speaking with big investors Dylan Ratigan has learned that the Street is worried about this massive budget for one of two reasons: 1) because of higher taxes and/or 2) because the potentially tremendous increase in the deficit -- will have the effect of lowering the rate of return for investors over the long-term.

Therefore, they are applying an even lower P/E multiple to stocks.

Daniel Clifton, Strategas Research head of policy research, is among the growing number of Obama critics. He tells Fast Money the new spending is inefficient per dollar of debt issued. And we can’t pay for it.



“We’re going to spend about $4 trillion and we only have $2 trillion in revenue. Not only will we have to raise taxes but we’ll probably have to create new taxes.”

Among the first people to point out this phenomenon was CNBC's Larry Kudlow. In a somewhat incendiary post published Friday he said Obama had declared war on investors.

Democrats, however, have expressed confidence that the reforms will work. "We need economic growth and access to credit. That is what we are focused on in the next year or two," White House Budget Director Peter Orszag said before the House of Representatives Budget Committee.

Orszag stressed that Obama's 10-year budget plan will be the engine of economic growth, if Congress embraces it.


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Dforkus
04-21-2010, 06:01 AM
Old thread, interesting to look back, note the date, and the valuations, came out almost precisely at the March-2009 low

SamFisher
04-21-2010, 06:15 AM
Old thread, interesting to look back, note the date, and the valuations, came out almost precisely at the March-2009 low


LOL! "interesting" is a good word, I wish I listened to the SOB :D

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9186/25258508.jpg (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^GSPC&t=1y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=)

bobbyw24
04-21-2010, 06:15 AM
LOL! "interesting" is a good word, I wish I listened to the SOB :D

Amen

HOLLYWOOD
04-21-2010, 08:01 AM
Playing us like a Fiddle... Now the part that I am researching id when the markets really ramped up starting on April 6, 2009... and when the FED/.GOV made the announcement that they were backing EVERYTHING at the banks, Wall street, corporations...

Who got the insider information between April 6th and the 16th... those 10 days... the true insiders bought in, before J6P.

That's the racketeering and data to analyze.

No difference in this totalitarian duopoly and some Hump Day Humor:

YouTube - Shopping Brigades - Go Shop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfs6wpjlu28&)

Dforkus
04-21-2010, 01:56 PM
Maybe Obama is the next Reinhardt!:D

Zippyjuan
04-21-2010, 02:03 PM
Reinhardt was saying to sell stocks in March and April. And May, and.....

DOW 2800!!

tmosley
04-21-2010, 02:39 PM
Printing money and pouring it in to the markets can indeed produce the illusion of prosperity. If the DOW was sitting at 2300 right now, the Washington, and many other cities, would probably be on fire (literally, not figuratively).

Things will only be worse when the illusion is finally dispelled.

Brian Defferding
04-21-2010, 02:52 PM
I hate it when people look at the DOW as an overall indicator of the market. The DOW was hot during the housing bubble too, wasn't it? Lookie how that panned out...

What's more important is if the market is growing from legit and voluntary supply and demand. There are subsidies, tax credits, "green jobs" etc. that are only temporary, and who knows if that will actually pay off, who knows if the markets will crash again when these subsidies and programs expire, and who knows if the government won't distort markets the other way too.

To me, nothing has changed. Invest with caution and spread them out.