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Revolution0918
03-03-2009, 10:12 PM
Im writing a paper on the decline on American education and I was wondering if anyone had any info that would help

ClayTrainor
03-03-2009, 10:18 PM
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/education-blog/2189-public-education-an-american-outrage-

be sure to use the word "Government education" as opposed to "public education". Because this drives home the point that, the parents and teachers are not the ones in control of the system.

Bman
03-03-2009, 10:21 PM
Im writing a paper on the decline on American education and I was wondering if anyone had any info that would help

I don't have any info. But I think writing it in crayon could go a long way to prove the point.

RSLudlum
03-03-2009, 10:35 PM
I just finished Rothbard's "Education: Free and Compulsory" short book and it does a good job at pointing out our current system's historical compulsory origins and the battle between parents and the state over 'ownership' of the child.

You can read it here: http://mises.org/web/2689


Might also want to check out this site: http://www.schoolandstate.org/

brandon
03-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Im writing a paper on the decline on American education and I was wondering if anyone had any info that would help

Use a lot of double negatives and sentence fragments.

ClayTrainor
03-03-2009, 10:51 PM
Use a lot of double negatives and sentence fragments.

lmfao :D

Flirple
03-04-2009, 01:59 AM
I'd start by watching John Stossel's great special on education "Stupid in America" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw)

ClayTrainor
03-04-2009, 02:02 AM
I'd start by watching John Stossel's great special on education "Stupid in America" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw)

can't believe i didn't think of that...

Yes... this is required viewing.

Suzu
03-04-2009, 03:08 AM
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

emazur
03-04-2009, 03:15 AM
I haven't read it yet but "the Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" (pdf) is often recommended:
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

And here's a smoking gun if there ever was one - General Education Board, "Occasional Paper No. 1", 1904:
http://www.sntp.net/education/leipzig_connection_6.htm

In our dreams, we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding bands. The present education conventions fade from their minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning, or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, editors, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have an ample supply.

The task we set before ourselves is very simple as well as a very beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just where they are. So we will organize our children and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way, in the homes, in the shops and on the farm.

LittleLightShining
03-04-2009, 06:38 AM
I'm reading None Dare Call it Education (http://www.amazon.com/None-Dare-Call-Education-Happening/dp/0914053124) right now.

Revolution0918
03-04-2009, 11:02 AM
ill b sure to put in the paper about how ive learned how good FDR was and how the New Deal saved r country......

Revolution0918
03-04-2009, 12:23 PM
I just looked at Stupid in America...pretty good, was wondering if any1 knew where i could dl it?

Flirple
03-05-2009, 01:32 AM
I just looked at Stupid in America...pretty good, was wondering if any1 knew where i could dl it?

Here is the Google video version: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9069323583494421392&ei=lIKvSaDnM4TB-AaHrrWPDw&q=%22stupid+in+america%22&emb=1 Click the download button to the right of the video.

Also, you can download just the audio mp3 hear: http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=48122