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bobbyw24
03-03-2009, 05:49 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29476319


American International Group should be allowed to go bankrupt because keeping it and other sick financials alive on government support risks ruining the US economy, legendary investor Jim Rogers told CNBC Tuesday.



AIG [AIG 0.42 --- UNCH ], whose $61.66 billion fourth-quarter loss was the largest ever for a US company, received $30 billion more in government funds Monday. The insurer's financial health hasn't improved despite getting as much as $150 billion from the government last year.

"Suppose AIG goes bankrupt, it is better that AIG goes bankrupt and we have a horrible two or three years than that the whole US goes bankrupt," Rogers said. "AIG has trillions of dollars of obligations, let them fail, let the courts sort it out and start over. Otherwise we'll never start over."

On Monday, CEO Edward Liddy told CNBC that the insurer is far more stable and secure than it was last fall but acknowledged that it was "difficult to say" if AIG will need even more money from the government in the future.



Bailing out the banks is going to increase the debt spiral and finally cause the destruction of the world's biggest economy, Rogers said.

"I think it's astonishing, they're ruining the US economy, they're ruining the US government, they're ruining the US central bank and they're ruining the US dollar," he said.

"You are watching something in front of our eyes, very historically, which is basically the destruction of New York as a financial center and the destruction of America as the world's most powerful country."

Japan's economic "lost decade" was caused by trying to bail out the banks, and the West risks running out of money if it doesn't let the bad banks fail now, Rogers warned.

Systemic risk is going to be the same in 10 months, 5 years of 10 years if the fundamental problem is not solved, he added.



"The idea that you have too much debt, too much borrowing and too much consumption and you're going to solve that problem with more debt, more consumption and more borrowing? These people are nuts."

Wall Street and the City of London are going to be "disastrous" for years, like in the 1950s and 1960s, and in 30 years, finance will "dry up and wither away" as we are entering a "long period of hard times," he said.

"Power is shifting now from the money shifters, the guys who trade paper and money, to people who produce real goods. What you should do is become a farmer, or start a farming network," Rogers said.
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power
03-03-2009, 06:27 AM
There is a rule from "Mother Nature" that if a living creature makes a mistake, it has to die. Nature does not give second chance. For example-: In forest, if a Deer/Stag is sleeping carelessly, a Lion/Tiger or Grizzly Bear will kill and eat the Deer.

But Human beings keep making mistakes after mistakes and further mistakes. They continue to survive after making mistakes.

What I mean is that Fannie & freddie, AIG, Bear stearns, Citigroup, Big 3 carmakers & other giant companies and banks have made "Big mistakes" because they are "worthless & without business brains", They should not survive. They have to shut down, if not today then tomorrow.

How long do you think "$10 trillion bail-out" will save Gaint companies and Banks. They have to shut down one day.

"Mother Earth" does not have the resources to support 7 billion people. So the "global financial crisis" was inevitable (had to happen).

"Global financial crisis" will happen again in future and it will continue to happen. Human beings and even $100 Trillion cannot STOP "Global financial crisis".

Humans have a habit of digging their own grave with their own hands.

LibertyEagle
03-03-2009, 07:02 AM
"Mother Earth" does not have the resources to support 7 billion people. So the "global financial crisis" was inevitable (had to happen).

Total BS. The global financial crisis had nothing whatsoever to do with the number of people on the planet. It was primarily due to a loose monetary policy, runaway government spending and stupid government legislation.

hugolp
03-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Total BS. The global financial crisis had nothing whatsoever to do with the number of people on the planet. It was primarily due to a loose monetary policy, runaway government spending and stupid government legislation.

+1 I am fed up of listening to that too. We may get to a population top at some point, but we are very far from it.

Hugo

ArchPaul
03-03-2009, 07:47 AM
Total BS. The global financial crisis had nothing whatsoever to do with the number of people on the planet. It was primarily due to a loose monetary policy, runaway government spending and stupid government legislation.

+1 Werd! My mother is on the population kick, and I have to bring her back to reality.. Who in the hell invented this population is the problem bullshit anyway?

bobbyw24
03-03-2009, 07:48 AM
The Sierra Club, the Pro-Abortionist Movement and the Anti-Immigration movement invented the Over-population scare

power
03-03-2009, 07:49 AM
Total BS. The global financial crisis had nothing whatsoever to do with the number of people on the planet. It was primarily due to a loose monetary policy, runaway government spending and stupid government legislation.

Crude Oil reached $145 per barrel due to massive demand from China & India. Real estates price reached sky-high due to massive population.

Never-ending Global financial crisis is a result of Crude Oil reaching $145 and sky-high real estate prices.

power
03-03-2009, 07:57 AM
+1 Werd! My mother is on the population kick, and I have to bring her back to reality.. Who in the hell invented this population is the problem bullshit anyway?


The Sierra Club, the Pro-Abortionist Movement and the Anti-Immigration movement invented the Over-population scare


+1 I am fed up of listening to that too. We may get to a population top at some point, but we are very far from it.

Hugo

Human beings have a habit of digging their own grave with their own hands.

bobbyw24
03-03-2009, 07:59 AM
Lotsa stuff at this site on Zero Population:


http://www.zpg.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=396&Itemid=18

ArchPaul
03-03-2009, 08:05 AM
Human beings have a habit of digging their own grave with their own hands.

via crappy fiscal policy. Review history, it's merely repeating itself..

P.S. oil went to $145/bbl because weak dollar, speculation(?)... demand argument has some merits, but is just the msm way of keeping you from looking at the truth.

hugolp
03-03-2009, 08:33 AM
Crude Oil reached $145 per barrel due to massive demand from China & India. Real estates price reached sky-high due to massive population.

Never-ending Global financial crisis is a result of Crude Oil reaching $145 and sky-high real estate prices.

Thechnology changes, humans adapt to new enviroments, petrol wont be the main source of energy, the space is the limit.

Hugo

theoakman
03-03-2009, 10:41 AM
don't ignore population growth. In any closed environment in any biological system, when you have exponential population growth, the population expands beyond the capacity to feed itself. At some point, you have a huge population drop through starvation. This happens in a forest, this happens in a petrie dish, it happens everywhere. It will probably happen to humans as well. The question is, is it 10 years from now or 100 years from now. No one really knows. One thing I do know. Our natural resources are finite.

ArchPaul
03-03-2009, 11:28 AM
I agree, population is getting out of control. But it didn't cause the financial mess, as proclaimed.

Brian4Liberty
03-03-2009, 11:52 AM
Yes, the world is dangerously underpopulated... :rolleyes:

Isn't that the same logic that yeast use right before they die in their own tasty waste?