Ron Paul supporters lambasted for ruining the country

[Eric21ND]

...excerpt from a forum I visit. Enjoy! :rolleyes:


OK, blowing yourself because "[you] predicted the precise delegate totals..." isn’t really on point here. Good for you (condescension emphasized)



It’s the morons like you, eager to prove some obscure and overly brainwashed point, that have really fucked this country. Thanks asshole!



Today, the Dow dropped below 7000. Obama (the guy you cheered for) is proposing more spending than all previous administrations since George Washington, COMBINED.



Your (you and the rest of the Paulbots) little political experiment just may completely undo this country. Oh, don’t get me wrong, I would never credit the liberturdian movement all on its own for this, but your complete ignorance of the true mechanics of government and economics, compounded by your blind Paul-worship fetish probably had a small impact... or not. What I don’t understand is why you want the country to go into a depression/financial collapse - all for hopes that your Paul cult will take something over? WTF?



The way I see it, none of you libertarian fucks really care about the country. You’re bent on your Ron Paul Revolution (still), and don’t give a fuck what happens on the way there.

[emazur]

Our little experiment? What a moron. It's the big-government status-quo 'crats and GOP that have driven this country into the cellar.

[brandon]

The guy makes one good point


What I don’t understand is why you want the country to go into a depression/financial collapse - all for hopes that your Paul cult will take something over? WTF?

He's right, paulbots are constantly cheering the financial collapse. I do not understand this whatsoever. It's like getting punched in the face and saying "thank you sir, may I have another."

[Spirit of '76]

He's right, paulbots are constantly cheering the financial collapse. I do not understand this whatsoever. It's like getting punched in the face and saying "thank you sir, may I have another."

It's not that. It's just that many of us understand the principle of Creative Destruction. The bad elements of the economy must be liquidated in order to redirect capital to healthy, productive elements of the economy.

If you're living in a house of cards, it's better to let it fall and then build up something better and longer-lasting.

[tremendoustie]

Who cheered for Obama?

[hugolp]

The guy makes one good point



He's right, paulbots are constantly cheering the financial collapse. I do not understand this whatsoever. It's like getting punched in the face and saying "thank you sir, may I have another."

The people that predicted this collapse are not happy because it happened. They can be (and should be) happy and proud that they understood the problem. That they were right. But for sure they are not happy about the collapse.

Honestly, its pathetic trying to blame the guys that have been warning about what would happen, and not blaming who is really at fault: the people that implemented the policies and the ones that cheer them.

Hugo

[AutoDas]

The guy makes one good point



He's right, paulbots are constantly cheering the financial collapse. I do not understand this whatsoever. It's like getting punched in the face and saying "thank you sir, may I have another."

Ron Paul supporters that understand basic Austrian teachings can see the Emperor has no clothes.

[brandon]

The people that predicted this collapse are not happy because it happened.

Yes they are. Droves of them post on this very forum every day;

[brandon]

It's not that. It's just that many of us understand the principle of Creative Destruction. The bad elements of the economy must be liquidated in order to redirect capital to healthy, productive elements of the economy.

If you're living in a house of cards, it's better to let it fall and then build up something better and longer-lasting.

The only thing being liquidated are the 401k's and life savings of hard working members of the middle and upper class.

All the things that caused this are just being propped up with government created money.

Yet day after day I see people on this board cheering for this.

[Original_Intent]

It's not that. It's just that many of us understand the principle of Creative Destruction. The bad elements of the economy must be liquidated in order to redirect capital to healthy, productive elements of the economy.

If you're living in a house of cards, it's better to let it fall and then build up something better and longer-lasting.

this.

[Isaac Bickerstaff]

Yes they are. Droves of them post on this very forum every day;
Guilty.
Today I saw a picture on Yahoo! of a stock trader slumped over a desk in obvious agony. I chuckled. The collapse will hurt the worthless* that caused the mess much more than it will hurt those of us that make an honest living producing products that people need to live. Some people are suffering that don't deserve it, that's true, but for those that have dishonestly amassed millions which they are now losing, payback is a bitch.

If someone breaks his hand because he repeatedly punched you in the face, you laugh at him and you don't feel the least bit of shame for it.

[Original_Intent]

The only thing being liquidated are the 401k's and life savings of hard working members of the middle and upper class.

All the things that caused this are just being propped up with government created money.

Yet day after day I see people on this board cheering for this.

Most of those earnings were based on bubble economics not reality. Just like people that got caught with their shorts around their ankles that were real estate speculators. You think we take pleasure in the INDIVIDUAL's suffering for this? I for one do not. However, even as a homeowner who sees that ALL of my equity is likely going to be wiped out, I see it as a GOOD thing, returning home values to reality instead of the insane levels they were pumped up to. Short term pain, but long term health. I think it is the same way with the stock market in general - we aren't cheering people getting their savings wiped out, we are cheering the collapse of a completely immoral and dishonest system that equated to outright theft of those hard working middle and upper class that you are championing.

Sorry, but anyone in their 60s that had a majority of their money in the stock market for retirement is an idiot. It is a rule of thumb that the closer you get to retirement, the more you need to move your money out of risk (stocks) and into more stable investments with lower returns. Sure some people wanted to go to Vegas to play for the big returns with their last few years. Life sucks. And again, I sure am NOT happy to see someone in that situation who made those bad decisiions. But seeing the whole immoral Federal Reserve system crumbling? Oh yeah, I am going to cheer that on.

[Brown Sapper]

I don't think that it's that we are cheering for the destruction of the market. It's that we showed them that this economy is a "house of cards" and we also showed them ways to get out of it, but they still won't listen.

[MsDoodahs]

I cheer for it because the Keynesians have been and remain in complete control, and will remain so until the country is destroyed.

Did you see Ron ask Ben WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT YOUR PREMISE IS WRONG at the hearings last week?

He asked that because Ron knows that Ben will NEVER admit he is wrong.

Bernanke and the Keynesians will NEVER admit their error.

They're GOING to destroy the country.

We have to hold on and get through it so we can rebuild when the Keynesian destruction is total. Sooner that happens, sooner the rebuilding can start.

[Kraig]

Sorry but I live very frugally and 100% debt free. I have never had a credit card in my life and the only loan I have ever taken (and paid back) was a stupid payday loan which was a big mistake.

The majority of people who lost out on this collapse are people who went into debt to get through school, got out of school and then went into debt to buy a house and some cars. Probably threw some nice furniture and electronics on a credit card too. Then they used the money they "saved" by not paying for anything up front to buy into some idiotic retirement plan that they now lost out on, and since they don't own anything to begin with they don't have much to fall back on either.

Basically a bunch of people pretending like they're rich as they make monthly payments on every single thing they own, no I don't feel sorry for them.

[Dary]

It reminds me of the warmongers blaming the peaceniks for Vietnam.

The peaceniks didn’t want the war. They didn’t start it and they didn’t support it. Yet they got blamed for losing it.

[sevin]

He's right, paulbots are constantly cheering the financial collapse. I do not understand this whatsoever. It's like getting punched in the face and saying "thank you sir, may I have another."

I, for one, am not cheering the collapse. I'm 28, about to get married, and would like to start a family, so I am very unhappy that this is happening right now. Anyone who's hoping for a collapse so Ron Paul can say "Told you so" and get elected in 2012 needs an ass kicking. Those types of paulbots give the rest of us a bad name.

[MsDoodahs]

Those who caused this don't intend to shoulder responsibility for it.

They'll blame everything and everyone else - because they are irresponsible immature whiney butts.

[Semper Vigilans]

Sorry but I live very frugally and 100% debt free. I have never had a credit card in my life and the only loan I have ever taken (and paid back) was a stupid payday loan which was a big mistake.

The majority of people who lost out on this collapse are people who went into debt to get through school, got out of school and then went into debt to buy a house and some cars. Probably threw some nice furniture and electronics on a credit card too. Then they used the money they "saved" by not paying for anything up front to buy into some idiotic retirement plan that they now lost out on, and since they don't own anything to begin with they don't have much to fall back on either.

Basically a bunch of people pretending like they're rich as they make monthly payments on every single thing they own, no I don't feel sorry for them.

I totally agree. My wife and I are debt free as well. I don't feel the least bit of pity for people who have no common sense or self control. We planned ahead, and as a result, we are financially sound, even after my wife lost her job, and with it half our income. Everything we have is OURS. All that can happen is we get kicked out of our apartment or our lights cut off if we lose all our income.

I cheer on the crash because it will bring REAL change, instead of the fake change we were promised. I'm ready for it, if everyone else didn't see the writing on the wall, that's not my problem. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

[mconder]

It's not that. It's just that many of us understand the principle of Creative Destruction. The bad elements of the economy must be liquidated in order to redirect capital to healthy, productive elements of the economy.

Ding ding ding...we have a winner!

[Malakai]

The guy makes one good point



He's right, paulbots are constantly cheering the financial collapse. I do not understand this whatsoever. It's like getting punched in the face and saying "thank you sir, may I have another."

Why not cheer for the fall of an extremely corrupt system.

The system they want to keep going is the one where all the wealth is redistributed into the hands of the ruling class (political and corporate, basically the same thing, fascism in a very real way).

It will be hard at first but the system we have has turned a once proud principled country into a social wasteland of hand outs and entitlement attitudes. We barely crank out any doctors or scientists any more, but millions of new drug addicts and welfare for lifers.

Where we are going sucks the sooner it ends the better. I just hope something better and not worse comes from the ashes.

Most of america is to poor to even be involved in the stock market ect.
Out lives already suck and our real pay has been decreasing every year for awhile now. Even keeping on as is a lot of the working low class are going to go under, and middle class are going to continue falling into the low class bracket.

[brandon]

Why not cheer for the fall of an extremely corrupt system.


The extremely corrupt system hasn't and isn't falling. I already said this earlier....

[smithtg]

The extremely corrupt system hasn't and isn't falling. I already said this earlier....

it would if the US government didnt prop it up with monopoly money

[constituent]

The only thing being liquidated are the 401k's and life savings of hard working members of the middle and upper class.

What did they expect? They gave their hard earned money to some hucksters they didn't know to invest heavily in companies (not to even mention all sorts of financial scams) they'd never even visited.

I don't know that it is so much that people are happy about it, as it is their refusal to cry over the failure of others to invest wisely in their communities.

[constituent]

Guilty.
Today I saw a picture on Yahoo! of a stock trader slumped over a desk in obvious agony. I chuckled. The collapse will hurt the worthless* that caused the mess much more than it will hurt those of us that make an honest living producing products that people need to live. Some people are suffering that don't deserve it, that's true, but for those that have dishonestly amassed millions which they are now losing, payback is a bitch.

If someone breaks his hand because he repeatedly punched you in the face, you laugh at him and you don't feel the least bit of shame for it.

well said.

[SWATH]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=137&t=838822

"First of all it is your logic that lost us the election. I am absolutely positive it is people like you who either did not vote in protest or voted for someone who had no chance in protest or worse yet voted democrat in protest. I am a Reagan/Goldwater conservative and have been one more than likely longer than you have been voting. Reagan nor Barry Goldwater never never ever advocated many of your positions. Those men were constitutionalist in every facet of their political lives. The conservative philosophy is one of being a centrist Not a fringe left or right advocate. It is however based on the Constitution , Faith in our Lord and Faith in the people of America. Further more you were wrong on most everything you stated about Rush and his beliefs. Take time to read the writings of the founders and Barry Goldwater and get back to me . While your at it you might want to read a generous helping of Buckley as well. Rush is a great friend of America and the Constitution . The idea that we have imperialist policies is absurd. That is the same tired claptrap that libs and moderates have been shouting for years. A strong defence is not Nation building it is national security."

Here is another good one:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=137&t=836430

I think I hold my own.

[torchbearer]

It reminds me of the warmongers blaming the peaceniks for Vietnam.

The peaceniks didn’t want the war. They didn’t start it and they didn’t support it. Yet they got blamed for losing it.

qft

[Paulitician]

Yes, Ron Paul supporters are all causing it :rolleyes:

Goddamn, Obama supporters are freaking delusional. It's funny, we don't know about the way government and economics work, yet most of saw this coming from a mile away. Ron Paul was the only one talking about this while the rest of the presidential candidates were still talking up the economy, nevermind trying to deny there was anything wrong with in the first place. And now they're sad to see their messiah failing to cause euphoria in the markets (and I predict he won't do much for the economy, other than drag it down). So far the markets has given him a huge thumbs down. Down almost 2,000 (the DIJA) after a month of his presidency? ROFL, at this rate, we'll go negative in no time.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[torchbearer]

I admit it. I ruined this country. <raises hand>
I am indeed a very powerful individual, don't upset me or I will drop the DOW to -2000 and cause your wife to leave you.

[Spirit of '76]

All the things that caused this are just being propped up with government created money

Yet day after day I see people on this board cheering for this.

I have yet to see anyone cheering for the fact that government money is being used to prop up a faulty economy. :confused:

[angelatc]

It's not that. It's just that many of us understand the principle of Creative Destruction. The bad elements of the economy must be liquidated in order to redirect capital to healthy, productive elements of the economy.

If you're living in a house of cards, it's better to let it fall and then build up something better and longer-lasting.

That didn't really work so well when the sun finally set on the British Empire though.

As miserable as it is these day, it will probably be much worse on the other side. The government is not going to give up power, and they are not going to return us our freedoms.

[angelatc]

I admit it. I ruined this country. <raises hand>
I am indeed a very powerful individual, don't upset me or I will drop the DOW to -2000 and cause your wife to leave you.

Can you send her this way? We could use a maid.

[Mini-Me]

Yes, Ron Paul supporters are all causing it :rolleyes:

Goddamn, Obama supporters are freaking delusional. It's funny, we don't know about the way government and economics work, yet most of saw this coming from a mile away. Ron Paul was the only one talking about this while the rest of the presidential candidates were still talking up the economy, nevermind trying to deny there was anything wrong with in the first place. And now they're sad to see their messiah failing to cause euphoria in the markets (and I predict he won't do much for the economy, other than drag it down). So far the markets has given him a huge thumbs down. Down almost 2,000 (the DIJA) after a month of his presidency? ROFL, at this rate, we'll go negative in no time.

Actually, it's the neocons and McCainiacs that are pissing and moaning about us at the moment, not the Obama supporters (at least as far as this thread goes). Most of the Obama supporters still haven't even figured out that it's a bad thing he's President...

[Athan]

LOL great job ruining the country guys!! Being the powers that be is the SHIT. I love it when we ruin this fuck's life by crashing the economy!!! You each win an internet!!

Seriously though, where is this little bitch hiding?

[Zuras]

...excerpt from a forum I visit. Enjoy! :rolleyes:

Welcome to da intrawebz.

[acptulsa]

We lost the primary but won the power. We're just good, I guess.

Either that, or someone believes that when in doubt, you should shoot the messenger.

Does this remind you of the woman who was dying to have a Mercedes Benz but couldn't afford one? She found an ancient diesel model that was falling apart and asked a friend who knew about cars to check it out. He told her flatly not to buy it, she got mad at him, and then she bought it anyway. No price was too high to have that three pointed star on the tip of her hood, apparently. Then, when it broke, she blamed him for telling her it was in good shape...

[constituent]

We lost the primary but won the power. We're just good, I guess.

Either that, or someone believes that when in doubt, you should shoot the messenger.

Does this remind you of the woman who was dying to have a Mercedes Benz but couldn't afford one? She found an ancient diesel model that was falling apart and asked a friend who knew about cars to check it out. He told her flatly not to buy it, she got mad at him, and then she bought it anyway. No price was too high to have that three pointed star on the tip of her hood, apparently. Then, when it broke, she blamed him for telling her it was in good shape...

oh yea, you mean the one about my mother in law.

only, that was her citi stock.

[acptulsa]

oh yea, you mean the one about my mother in law.

only, that was her citi stock.

:D

Once upon a time, back in the Dark Ages, people with brains would get burned at the stake because 'only witches could see the future'. So, I guess this isn't so bad... :rolleyes:

[constituent]

:D

Once upon a time, back in the Dark Ages, people with brains would get burned at the stake because 'only witches could see the future'. So, I guess this isn't so bad... :rolleyes:

very true, it could have been worse.

thanks for the perspective!

(enjoyed the loooooong post yesterday, read it twice)

[acptulsa]

(enjoyed the loooooong post yesterday, read it twice)

Wow, you must have liked it! Thanks!

[constituent]

Wow, you must have liked it! Thanks!

nostalgia is one of my guilty pleasures.
:o