How will it all end?

[Indy4Chng]

How do you think this whole situation will end up?

[pcosmar]

Badly.
I honestly expect a mess. Not a revolution.
Unrest, martial law , NWO

I will resist.

[idiom]

Badly.
I honestly expect a mess. Not a revolution.
Unrest, martial law , NWO

I will resist.

You can't resist. All your friends are NWO agents.

[akihabro]

The general population sure seems to be pacifistic and loving socialism. I know there is angry people. If this economy magically recovers, due to the free market not anything that Obama did...then yes he'll take credit and Obamabots will vote him in again. So what's going to happen with this state sovereignty when everything recovers? Will it go quietly back to sleep? I'd like to see things get back to normal like everyone else...but Obama is taking the wrong direction. I just can't see the similarities to the blood boiling 232 years ago. The difference was people were a LOT more self reliant and had left england and other European countries not too many years before due to persecution, economic, etc. reasons. If there is a quiet peaceful revolution from subjugating socialism and spending like no tomorrow...I'm all for it!

[idiom]

The general population sure seems to be pacifistic and loving socialism. I know there is angry people. If this economy magically recovers, due to the free market not anything that Obama did...then yes he'll take credit and Obamabots will vote him in again. So what's going to happen with this state sovereignty when everything recovers? Will it go quietly back to sleep? I'd like to see things get back to normal like everyone else...but Obama is taking the wrong direction. I just can't see the similarities to the blood boiling 232 years ago. The difference was people were a LOT more self reliant and had left england and other European countries not too many years before due to persecution, economic, etc. reasons. If there is a quiet peaceful revolution from subjugating socialism and spending like no tomorrow...I'm all for it!

So, you are saying we should sabotage the economy to disprove Keysianism because we know it won't work any way?

[pcosmar]

You can't resist. All your friends are NWO agents.

You know neither me of my friends.
And the folks in my area for the most part are a very resistant bunch. The ones that aren't don't survive winter.

[Indy4Chng]

My thought is that I agree completely there is majority of people in this country that don't care one way or the other, they just don't want to be bothered. But what happens when that group of people no longer has a job and we are in complete economic colapse. Would they join a revoultion? They are too lazy to fight for anything and since the government hasn't given them what they thought they were going to get they probably would be sympithetic to the revolution as they would be hey big government didn't save us, maybe they can.

The bottom line is I think it may come down to the people who are willing to fight (not physically) for their principles and I think the people that will fight for liberty vastly outnumber the ones who would fight for anything else... on the other side though... if the sheeple can't get a job why wouldn't the government just start paying soliders real well and they could get the sheeple to fight any vocal non-violent resistence and would have the resources to crush them.

The truth is I have no idea how this is all going unravel, it just doesn't look very promising to me... but I have hope that liberty will win in the end.

[Rael]

Probably the breakup scenario. I don't see the socialists winning. The parasites of this country are foolish cowards and ultimately will not be willing to die over free stuff. Most of the folks who care about liberty are willing to fight for it. It will be a fight between lovers of liberty and the state, while the parasites that back the state will sit on the sidelines, blubbering helplessly as they begin to starve to death when the government checks stop coming. The military that backs the state will overwhelmingly refuse to attack their own countrymen and will join our side of the fight. The states funding will be cut off as we stop paying taxes and the parasites will be too busy taking a crash course in self sufficiency to fund the state.

[idiom]

You know neither me of my friends.
And the folks in my area for the most part are a very resistant bunch. The ones that aren't don't survive winter.

And the NWO could never ever infiltrate such a group.

[pcosmar]

And the NWO could never ever infiltrate such a group.

You will find a very anti One World Government attitude in this area.
You will also find that most have been hunters since childhood. :cool:

[idiom]

You will find a very anti One World Government attitude in this area.
You will also find that most have been hunters since childhood. :cool:

So if you asked them, they would deny being part of a conspiracy? In fact they take measures to lower their likelyhood?

Well that proves that they are on the level. Agents of the NWO all wear Barney Frank masks.

[pcosmar]

So if you asked them, they would deny being part of a conspiracy? In fact they take measures to lower their likelyhood?

Well that proves that they are on the level. Agents of the NWO all wear Barney Frank masks.

You really have no point do you?

[idiom]

No, not really. I just thought I would return the favour of busting into discussions with conspiracy theories.

[pcosmar]

No, not really. I just thought I would return the favour of busting into discussions with conspiracy theories.

Well then present a theory, we can examine it.
I am up all night keeping the fires stoked, It is getting very cold here.

Try to find a good theory though. NWO has been proven to be a fact. :D

[idiom]

Well then present a theory, we can examine it.
I am up all night keeping the fires stoked, It is getting very cold here.

Try to find a good theory though. NWO has been proven to be a fact. :D

The theory was they have predicted your activty from a pre-birth dna test. Thus they recruited a child in your neighbourhood to recruit in order to watch you. Since then they have always maintained undercover operatives in your circle of friends.

Thus the revolution will be quite short.

[Rael]

Well then present a theory, we can examine it.
I am up all night keeping the fires stoked, It is getting very cold here.

Try to find a good theory though. NWO has been proven to be a fact. :D

Cite? :D

[pcosmar]

Cite? :D


"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite."

Senator William Jenner, 1954

"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order."

Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)


"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship."

Former Congressman John Rarick 1971

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."

Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950


"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault."

CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs.


"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order."

Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)


"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long."

President George Bush (January 1991)

And this one was the first time I heard the phrase,
I remember it sent chills up my spine.

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."

George Herbert Walker Bush

[PatriotLegion]

I may stand alone on this.

America is conquered through WW3. Starts as a further economic crisis and more failed foreign policies made by the Great President.

After the forces are thinned further with more growing conflicts around the globe our position has and always will be the global police force. So with our nation being very open for an invasion the worst happens, we are invaded through are southern borders and the southern states begin to fail to our enemies.

With further weakened America, all NATO and UN nations bails on the US. We stand alone as the enemies begin to grow as the Chinese and South American nations begin to take states and enslaving the populace. Any one that was smart to retreat went north to Canada and fortified the mountain regions of the country.

In a last ditch effort for the US to stretch its might on last time deploys nuclear weapons on select nations in Asia, the Middle East, and South America to halt anymore conquest on what is left of American Soil. The effort is unsuccessfully as most military forces are either in the North American Region or in Eastern Europe as growing tensions begin between Russia and the EU over territorial rights (but that's another story ;) )

In all end the US is now cut up into many different territorial cuts under an occupational force and Marshal law, any resisters are jailed and reeducated or put to death.

Hope you enjoyed!! Take it as satire or things to come!!! :D ;)

PatriotLegion!

[Indy4Chng]

I may stand alone on this.

America is conquered through WW3. Starts as a further economic crisis and more failed foreign policies made by the Great President.

After the forces are thinned further with more growing conflicts around the globe our position has and always will be the global police force. So with our nation being very open for an invasion the worst happens, we are invaded through are southern borders and the southern states begin to fail to our enemies.

With further weakened America, all NATO and UN nations bails on the US. We stand alone as the enemies begin to grow as the Chinese and South American nations begin to take states and enslaving the populace. Any one that was smart to retreat went north to Canada and fortified the mountain regions of the country.

In a last ditch effort for the US to stretch its might on last time deploys nuclear weapons on select nations in Asia, the Middle East, and South America to halt anymore conquest on what is left of American Soil. The effort is unsuccessfully as most military forces are either in the North American Region or in Eastern Europe as growing tensions begin between Russia and the EU over territorial rights (but that's another story ;) )

In all end the US is now cut up into many different territorial cuts under an occupational force and Marshal law, any resisters are jailed and reeducated or put to death.

Hope you enjoyed!! Take it as satire or things to come!!! :D ;)

PatriotLegion!

The scariest thing as I read your quote it is not unbelievable. Think about it, we are in economic collapse. We are completely reliant on foreign nations to supply us with energy. All our miliaty is protecting the world, not the United States over half our military is not able to defend us. They cut off energy till we run through our supplies. Mexico blames their collapse on us, they join forces with China as the debt China now holds is worthless... I mean we would fight but the odds would be long that we could hold that off and this is all possible and foreseable... that said I am praying that if economic collapse takes place (which is looking more and more likely) the result will be Russia instead.

[WRellim]

You were very close with one of your choices... it just needs a slight correction to be more accurate:


The American people will BEG FOR socialism and wind up with fascism.

They have a history of voting for it multiple times (at local, state AND federal levels)... plus, the majority (who live in cities & on the coasts) will want it to continue and to be increased (because while on the macro level they HATE the very concept of "bailouts" -- at the micro level, they all wants THEIR bailouts & think "gummint" spending is the way to game the system for their locales).

Only when it is WAY too damn late will they realize that they've been screwed by the pooch (so to speak).

[Kludge]

How do you think this whole situation will end up?

I don't know. Perhaps you will go quickly with a heart attack or in your sleep. Perhaps a gunshot wound...? No -- very unlikely. Hmmm... Not Alzheimer's, hopefully...

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

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