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Josh_LA
02-26-2009, 01:48 AM
Does this Holocaust survivor's ad hoc justification of lying sound familiar?
http://www.wikio.com/video/857220

To see the background story, here's the interview
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=12098233

I can understand romanticizing a story to make it emotional or memorable.
I can understand profiting off of a story because you like money.
But this man actually pretends he's not doing it for money, and he's not intentionally lying, what's true to him is all that he needs, screw reality, that's other people's problem.

Sheepdog11
02-26-2009, 02:52 PM
Does this Holocaust survivor's ad hoc justification of lying sound familiar?
http://www.wikio.com/video/857220

I hate it when people do this...

It basically goes like

"B is true because of A"

"A is not true"

"well yes, but A is only not true because of [insert lame explanation here], but B is still true."

Just use coherent arguments to begin with, people :p

idiom
02-26-2009, 04:13 PM
Rule #1, stick to the same story.

If your memory was confabulated, thats enough. Stick to that.

If you wanted to write a heart warming piece of fiction, then do that.

PureCommonSense
02-26-2009, 04:28 PM
These people must have been really good at BSing papers in school.

Josh_LA
02-26-2009, 06:42 PM
These people must have been really good at BSing papers in school.

You don't need to BS papers if you can BS the teacher when caught plagiarizing.

"In my mind, I was writing it and I was copying this paper off my own head, in my mind, this was my work, not somebody else's"

Josh_LA
02-26-2009, 06:44 PM
I hate it when people do this...

It basically goes like

"B is true because of A"
"A is not true"

"well yes, but A is only not true because of [insert lame explanation here], but B is still true."

Just use coherent arguments to begin with, people :p

That's where the mess up starts. Stacking one argument depending on the foundation of another.

Which is why 9/11 truthers and Holocaust deniers LOVE attacking the foundations.
(can you say controlled demolition again?)

idiom
02-26-2009, 08:06 PM
"In my mind, I was writing it and I was copying this paper off my own head, in my mind, this was my work, not somebody else's"

Such is the claim of all copyright holders. They didn't borrow anything from the culture around them.

Josh_LA
02-26-2009, 10:37 PM
Such is the claim of all copyright holders. They didn't borrow anything from the culture around them.

Yes, and it's usually treated with first come first serve basis.

And probably judged by how a reasonable person can believe two unrelated people can come up with the same thing is too much of a coincidence.

KCIndy
02-26-2009, 11:14 PM
You don't need to BS papers if you can BS the teacher when caught plagiarizing.


Yeah, just ask Joe Biden!! heh heh heh

Josh_LA
02-26-2009, 11:23 PM
Yeah, just ask Joe Biden!! heh heh heh

Not sure what you're referring to at the moment, I'll search and read, but like I said, ALL TOO FAMILIAR. I'm just not used to hearing it outside of politics and business (and in those cases, I can understand a person has an interest in lying).