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anaconda
02-22-2009, 01:25 PM
Seems to me that if we could get someone like Peter Schiff in the Senate (or RP in the Senate, for that matter) it would really help The Revolution. Regardless of which state that person represents. I was a typical RP donator at $280 and believe I would do the same or more for such a senate candidate. The difference is that $35 million would be worth more in a senate campaign than a presidential campaign. Do you feel that others would react similarly?

I don't know where Schiff stands on other Constitutional issues, however.

KCIndy
02-22-2009, 03:36 PM
I don't know where Schiff stands on other Constitutional issues, however.

Since Schiff was Ron Paul's financial/economics adviser for the '08 campaign, I can't imagine he would stray too far afield from Dr. Paul's views.

At any rate, he would be better than Chris Dodd!

Considering that he's a backer of the free market Austrian theory of economics, I would seriously doubt if he holds pro-big government or socialist views.

I hope he decides to run!

He Who Pawns
02-22-2009, 09:32 PM
We could raise a ton of money for him, plus Schiff could put plenty of cash into his own campaign to defeat the criminal Dodd.

ItsTime
02-22-2009, 09:36 PM
without a doubt

Jordan
02-22-2009, 10:06 PM
We need to keep shooting for president (RP). Do you really think they'd put Schiff on the Senate Finance Committee? That's where we really need him, one vote won't do much, we've seen that already.

He Who Pawns
02-22-2009, 10:11 PM
Well there is no Presidential race in 2010, so let's get Schiff in there!

robert4rp08
02-22-2009, 10:16 PM
I think it'd be great to see someone like Schiff in the U.S. Senate. However, based on the few videos that I've seen, he doesn't see that interested in running.

Kludge
02-22-2009, 10:21 PM
It seems that Democrats are in for a big hit in 2010. These bailouts are being hammered by the press. Obama's honeymoon period ended long ago.

Edit: Oh, that was off-topic, wasn't it?

anaconda
02-23-2009, 02:16 AM
It seems that Democrats are in for a big hit in 2010. These bailouts are being hammered by the press. Obama's honeymoon period ended long ago.

Edit: Oh, that was off-topic, wasn't it?

No, it's perfectly relevant to someone running for Senate in 2010.

anaconda
02-23-2009, 02:17 AM
We need to keep shooting for president (RP). Do you really think they'd put Schiff on the Senate Finance Committee? That's where we really need him, one vote won't do much, we've seen that already.

On vote could be very important in the Senate. Plus it could be a nice bully pulpit.

thasre
02-23-2009, 11:55 AM
On vote could be very important in the Senate. Plus it could be a nice bully pulpit.

The bully pulpit thing is exactly the idea. Particularly when the Republicans are the minority, they're very accepting of people who aren't afraid to speak out against the Dems. And if they become the majority again, then we'll need more than ever a Republican in the Senate who tries to temper the whims of the other Republicans.

Tink
02-23-2009, 12:40 PM
I'm not much of a political analyst, nor do I 'play' politics very well, but it seems to me that we should be voting in anyone from the Liberty movement that will stand against the 'status que'. These men and women probably wouldn't have considered running in the past but now realize that their contribution is necessary for the political stability of this country. As Citizens devoted to Liberty we should be promoting and supporting them whenever they step forward to serve.

I went to a lecture/discussion with Adam Kokesh last weekend at the CU Boulder campus, and he expressed an interest in running in his home state of New Mexico. The more candidates we have running the more opportunity we have for real Change (not Chains).

Let's organize for these brave people and support them, if not monetarily, then voluntarily. Getting out in your neighborhood and communities, listening to other people's concerns and suggesting that Liberty is the Answer, is just as important as flipping your coins toward a candidate.

TonySutton
02-23-2009, 12:52 PM
18Million is likely more than enough to win a US Senate seat. Recently the hotly contested seat in MN showed Franken spending about 17M and Coleman spending about 15M. I would think there are seats out there which could be won for far less, even against incumbents.

Austin
02-23-2009, 11:59 PM
Any particular reason for the 18.5 number?

Regardless, I think we could.

anaconda
02-24-2009, 06:04 PM
Any particular reason for the 18.5 number?

Regardless, I think we could.

That was the amount we raised for RP in quarter 4 of 2007 (oops.. or was it $19.5 million?).

Anyway, I was wondering if there might be as much donating to a viable Senate candidate with RP values as there was with RP for President.

Imperial
02-24-2009, 07:08 PM
I think 18 million is too much to throw out there. I think we could easily get $1 million in his coffers, and $2.5 million would be really good from grassroots for a non-presidential run.

The key is said money sparking his nomination and getting the big money from the national gop to pour in an Anybody But Dodd thing.

Of course, I think Schiff would get on the Finances committee because he would run on economy.

anaconda
02-24-2009, 08:04 PM
I think 18 million is too much to throw out there. I think we could easily get $1 million in his coffers, and $2.5 million would be really good from grassroots for a non-presidential run.

The key is said money sparking his nomination and getting the big money from the national gop to pour in an Anybody But Dodd thing.

Of course, I think Schiff would get on the Finances committee because he would run on economy.

The problem I see here is that, much like Ron Paul, Schiff's economic agenda would be the worst possible nightmare for the powers that be in the Republican party. Severing the life link to budget deficit money is bad bad news for the military-industrial complex and their politician foot soldiers. The Republicans will try to undermine him, not help him.

itshappening
02-25-2009, 10:15 AM
dont need $18m for a senate campaign, more like a quarter of that

TruthisTreason
03-03-2009, 11:56 PM
dont need $18m for a senate campaign, more like a quarter of that

It's not uncommon for the opposition to spend up to 5 million in the last three weeks attacking you. So, I'd say 20 million to win. You'll need primary money, and election money. To win all that can fluctuate either way, depending on how effective you are, and how much the opponents are spending, and how in-effective they are being.;)

Schiff should get serious if he is running, I've never heard him come out yet, is he still gauging for support, or what is his status?

He Who Pawns
03-04-2009, 01:59 AM
Schiff/Dodd would be a very expensive race. Schiff would need 15 million, minimum, but more likely 20 million to win. Keep in mind that the national GOP might kick in a very large amount to humiliate Dodd and unseat him.

Nathan Hale
03-17-2009, 05:58 AM
Seems to me that if we could get someone like Peter Schiff in the Senate (or RP in the Senate, for that matter) it would really help The Revolution. Regardless of which state that person represents. I was a typical RP donator at $280 and believe I would do the same or more for such a senate candidate. The difference is that $35 million would be worth more in a senate campaign than a presidential campaign. Do you feel that others would react similarly?

I don't know where Schiff stands on other Constitutional issues, however.

Total overkill. $18.5 million for a Senate race is (barring a few noteworthy exceptions) a ludicrous amount. Raise $2 million through our network, combine it with what Schiff can raise through traditional networks, and you'll have more than enough to win a Senate race. That frees up $16+ million in potential fundraising to spend on other, similar races (such as Goldwater for Gov 2010, Rand Paul 2010, and whatever good house races we have coming up).

He Who Pawns
03-17-2009, 10:40 AM
No, no, no. Dodd is a huge target. We need to concentrate all firepower on a huge scalp like his, to send shockwaves through the system. If Schiff gets into this, we need to make sure he WINS.

Nathan Hale
03-18-2009, 07:38 AM
No, no, no. Dodd is a huge target. We need to concentrate all firepower on a huge scalp like his, to send shockwaves through the system. If Schiff gets into this, we need to make sure he WINS.

Yes, but we shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket in 2010. Raising $18.5 million for Schiff would be the limit of our resources, assuming we can raise the same as we did in 2008. Even a small portion of that is perfect for Schiff's run, and the rest we could split between other important Senate/Gubernatorial/Representative races.

Don't Tread on Mike
04-01-2009, 01:42 PM
Absolutely, I think if we can just get Schiff into politics he can do great things.

crushingstep7
04-23-2009, 04:52 PM
I wonder if it would be illegal if Schiff were to ask his clients, by sending them letters maybe, about donations.

I mean, if the letter explained what was going on in there country (a lot of us already know, of course) I'm sure shit loads of his satisfied customers would be willing.

He Who Pawns
04-23-2009, 05:36 PM
Well there are no laws that I know of that would prevent Schiff from sending out fundraising letters to his clients. But there would be caps on how much each could donate.

A better idea might be for Schiff to turn over his client list to a PAC supporting his cause, so that Schiff's fatcat clients could bankroll some punishing negative ads against the criminal Chris Dodd, with no caps on how much they can donate.

torchbearer
04-23-2009, 05:42 PM
depends. a lot of people aren't active that were active when we did the other money bombs.
It may be hard to raise $500,000 right now.

crushingstep7
04-23-2009, 06:34 PM
Well there are no laws that I know of that would prevent Schiff from sending out fundraising letters to his clients. But there would be caps on how much each could donate.

A better idea might be for Schiff to turn over his client list to a PAC supporting his cause, so that Schiff's fatcat clients could bankroll some punishing negative ads against the criminal Chris Dodd, with no caps on how much they can donate.

Yea caps are understandable, as I'm sure many of them are say, "loaded".
But yea, does it seem likely at this point that Schiff will make Senate?
He seems like he has a pretty good chance....

CUnknown
05-05-2009, 12:25 PM
Yes, we shouldn't assume we can raise 18 mil again. Hopefully, we have been recruiting and can raise even more, but it's also possible that enthusiasm has waned and we're less powerful than before. It's hard to tell. But, we should do our best for Schiff.